Re: [News] Another School Turns to Free Software

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> | John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>> | year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be slightly
>> | different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>> | instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which is a
>> | full, scalable vector graphics program."[/color]
>
> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>
> I can see it now:
>
> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>
> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>
> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
> yourself?"
>
> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use* Gimp.
>
> It's a *GNU* program.
>
> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>
> Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>
>[/color]
... and your dishonest bigtory shines though.
It seems these they have already had exposure to Photoshop, etc. Why
shouldn't they be have experience with other software?

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

[color=blue]
>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be slightly
>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which is a
>| full, scalable vector graphics program."[/color]

Yea, that will look great on a resume .

I can see it now:

Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"

Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"

Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
yourself?"

Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use* Gimp.

It's a *GNU* program.

Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?

Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.





--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
[url]http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/[/url]

Rick wrote:[color=blue]
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This
>>>> academic year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've
>>>> done is be slightly different and use things like the GIMP (GNU
>>>> Image Manipulation Program) instead of Photoshop, Scribus for
>>>> desktop publishing and InkScape, which is a full, scalable vector
>>>> graphics program."[/color]
>>
>> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>
>> I can see it now:
>>
>> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>
>> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>
>> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard
>> on yourself?"
>>
>> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I
>> *use* Gimp. It's a *GNU* program.
>>
>> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old
>> version? Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in
>> touch.
>>
>>[/color]
> .. and your dishonest bigtory shines though.
> It seems these they have already had exposure to Photoshop, etc. Why
> shouldn't they be have experience with other software?[/color]

They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.

* chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:
[color=blue]
> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors[/url]

This list shows Photoshop and GIMP in the same list, along with a lot of
other graphics editors that really /are/ obscure.

And GIMP is supported on more platform's than is Photoshop. And it
competes pretty well with Photoshop and and Paintshop Pro on features.

Not bad for a freebie.

This one is funny:

Microsoft Paint No No No No No Partial Yes No No
No No No No No

Good thing GIMP is ported to Windows:

GIMP Yes Yes Yes Yes Partial [15] Yes Yes Yes Yes
Yes Yes Yes No Yes

--
In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things
happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I
think religious principles are quite valid.
-- Bill Gates, PBS interview with David Frost (November 1995)

some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
[color=blue]
>They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]

Ignore the forger.

some idiot forging chrisv wrote:[color=blue]
> chrisv wrote:
>[color=green]
>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]
>
> Ignore the forger.[/color]

Erm... Isn't that you?

*plonk*

* chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:
[color=blue]
> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:[color=green]
>> chrisv wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]
>>
>> Ignore the forger.[/color]
>
> Erm... Isn't that you?
>
> *plonk*[/color]

No. Astraweb ==> bad chrisv, Giganews ==> good chrisv.

--
We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and
underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself
be lulled into inaction.
-- Bill Gates

Linonut wrote:[color=blue]
> * chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:
>[color=green]
>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.
>>>
>>> Ignore the forger.[/color]
>>
>> Erm... Isn't that you?
>>
>> *plonk*[/color]
>
> No. Astraweb ==> bad chrisv, Giganews ==> good chrisv.[/color]

Nonsense. There's no such thing as a bad chrisv.

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>slightly
>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>is a
>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."[/color]
>
> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>
> I can see it now:
>
> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>
> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>
> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
> yourself?"
>
> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
> Gimp.
>
> It's a *GNU* program.
>
> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>
> Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.[/color]

Or it could go....

Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?

Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.

Interviewer: When can you start?

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>slightly
>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>is a
>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."[/color]
>>
>> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>
>> I can see it now:
>>
>> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>
>> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>
>> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>> yourself?"
>>
>> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>> Gimp.
>>
>> It's a *GNU* program.
>>
>> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>
>> Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.[/color]
>
> Or it could go....
>
> Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>
> Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>
> Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]

Yea sure.....

The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
$$$$$

The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and proceed to
try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
to Gimp.

Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
idiotic comment like that.

BTW I thought you kill filed me?

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
[url]http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/[/url]

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>>slightly
>>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>>is a
>>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>>
>>>Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>>
>>>I can see it now:
>>>
>>>Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>>
>>>Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>>yourself?"
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>>>Gimp.
>>>
>>>It's a *GNU* program.
>>>
>>>Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>>
>>>Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.[/color]
>>
>>Or it could go....
>>
>>Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>
>>Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>
>>Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]
>
>
> Yea sure.....
>
> The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
> $$$$$
>
> The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and proceed to
> try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
> to Gimp.
>
> Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
> idiotic comment like that.
>
> BTW I thought you kill filed me?
>[/color]
He's an IT (Idiot in Training)...they haven't yet covered that
chapter!...LOL
Frank

Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:[color=blue]
> * chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]
>
> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors[/url]
>
> This list shows Photoshop and GIMP in the same list, along with a lot
> of other graphics editors that really /are/ obscure.
>
> And GIMP is supported on more platform's than is Photoshop. And it
> competes pretty well with Photoshop and and Paintshop Pro on
> features.[/color]

I've used Photoshop and I've used the Gimp, and other than Photoshop's
£571.99 GBP ($1,123.32 USD) price tag [1], I can't really see much
difference.

Like I've said before, Photoshop is one of the most over-hyped and
overpriced pieces of software ever.

It kind of makes you wonder exactly /who/ is providing all that hype,
doesn't it, given that so few people can afford it?
[color=blue]
> Not bad for a freebie.[/color]

Bloody excellent for a freebie, but more importantly it's Free, which is
all I really care about. It could cost double the price of Photoshop for
all I care, it is Free Software, and that's what counts, especially when
it comes to running that software on architectures that would be
otherwise unsupported. An eleven hundred dollar box of software is
worthless if it won't even run on your machine.

[1] Current UK price (before discounts) quoted at Amazon UK.

--
K.
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:21:27 -0700, Frank <fb@heh.lol> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>>>slightly
>>>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>>>is a
>>>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>>>
>>>>Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>>>
>>>>I can see it now:
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>>>
>>>>Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>>>yourself?"
>>>>
>>>>Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>>>>Gimp.
>>>>
>>>>It's a *GNU* program.
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>>>
>>>>Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>>>
>>>Or it could go....
>>>
>>>Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>>
>>>Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Yea sure.....
>>
>> The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
>> $$$$$
>>
>> The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and proceed to
>> try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
>> to Gimp.
>>
>> Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
>> idiotic comment like that.
>>
>> BTW I thought you kill filed me?
>>[/color]
>He's an IT (Idiot in Training)...they haven't yet covered that
>chapter!...LOL
>Frank[/color]

Frank is a DF (dumb ****) and was an idiot from birth.

GIMP by the way is very capable and similar to Photoshop. If you know
how to use one, you can use the other almost immediately will little
retraining.

Of course ****-ups like Frank are still trying to decide which hand to
use to wipe his **** encrusted ass with.

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>>slightly
>>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>>is a
>>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>>
>>>Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>>
>>>I can see it now:
>>>
>>>Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>>
>>>Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>>yourself?"
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>>>Gimp.
>>>
>>>It's a *GNU* program.
>>>
>>>Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>>
>>>Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.[/color]
>>
>>Or it could go....
>>
>>Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>
>>Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>
>>Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]
>
>
> Yea sure.....
>
> The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
> $$$$$
>
> The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and proceed to
> try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
> to Gimp.
>
> Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
> idiotic comment like that.
>
> BTW I thought you kill filed me?
>[/color]
hehehe...I see that we already have one idiot moron loser (mr drunken
pig in cause you haven't already guessed) who actually thinks that
"gimp" (where do those fukkin linux FANATICAL ZEALOTS COME UP WITH SUCH
STUPID FUKKIN NAMES?) is equal to Adobe Photoshop CS3!
Obviously, all this jackass does is crop his p&s snaps!...LOL!
Frank

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:21:44 -0700, Frank <fb@tpi.olm> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>| John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This academic
>>>>>| year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is be
>>>>>slightly
>>>>>| different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
>>>>>| instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and InkScape, which
>>>>>is a
>>>>>| full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>>>
>>>>Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>>>
>>>>I can see it now:
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>>>
>>>>Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>>>yourself?"
>>>>
>>>>Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I *use*
>>>>Gimp.
>>>>
>>>>It's a *GNU* program.
>>>>
>>>>Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>>>
>>>>Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>>>
>>>Or it could go....
>>>
>>>Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>>
>>>Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>>
>>>Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Yea sure.....
>>
>> The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
>> $$$$$
>>
>> The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and proceed to
>> try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
>> to Gimp.
>>
>> Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
>> idiotic comment like that.
>>
>> BTW I thought you kill filed me?
>>[/color]
>hehehe...I see that we already have one idiot moron loser (mr drunken
>pig in cause you haven't already guessed) who actually thinks that
>"gimp" (where do those fukkin linux FANATICAL ZEALOTS COME UP WITH SUCH
>STUPID FUKKIN NAMES?) is equal to Adobe Photoshop CS3!
>Obviously, all this jackass does is crop his p&s snaps!...LOL!
>Frank[/color]

Frank being nothing but a **** stained jackass and ****wit has no idea
what a acronym is.

GIMP stands for (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) so as usual Frank
screaming 'where do those ****ing linux FANATICAL ZEALOTS COME UP WITH
SUCH STUPID FUKKIN NAMES? confirms again what a total uneducated idiot
Frank really is.

Don't you just love it when Frank always manages to prove himself what
a dip****, asshole and damn fool he really is? I sure enjoy watching
the this clown dance and always falling down banging his head on the
ground because one thing is sure, Frank will ****-up whatever he's
currently whining about. He's that stupid.

Now for your further education moron, I've used Photoshop since
version two, which goes back many years. That's why I can say GIMP is
very close and actually better that Photoshop in some areas.

Of course Frank never lets facts get in the way of his obvious hatred
of all things Linux which itself proves Frank is bigoted, racist, foul
mouth little turd that we just loves to kick around for the heck of it
because you can bet the farm this retard is wrong 99% of the time
regardless the topic.

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:51:59 +0100, Homer wrote:
[color=blue]
> Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:[color=green]
>> * chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.[/color]
>>
>> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors[/url]
>>
>> This list shows Photoshop and GIMP in the same list, along with a lot
>> of other graphics editors that really /are/ obscure.
>>
>> And GIMP is supported on more platform's than is Photoshop. And it
>> competes pretty well with Photoshop and and Paintshop Pro on
>> features.[/color]
>
> I've used Photoshop and I've used the Gimp, and other than Photoshop's
> £571.99 GBP ($1,123.32 USD) price tag [1], I can't really see much
> difference.[/color]

That's because you are not a professional.
Think UI.

[color=blue]
> Like I've said before, Photoshop is one of the most over-hyped and
> overpriced pieces of software ever.[/color]

And Gimp is free and multiplatform to boot.
If Gimp was a Photoshop killer, it would have killed Photoshop by now.
It's not.

[color=blue]
> It kind of makes you wonder exactly /who/ is providing all that hype,
> doesn't it, given that so few people can afford it?[/color]

Again, Photoshop is targeted at professionals.
The lite versions are more than enough for amateaurs though.


[color=blue][color=green]
>> Not bad for a freebie.[/color]
>
> Bloody excellent for a freebie, but more importantly it's Free, which is
> all I really care about. It could cost double the price of Photoshop for
> all I care, it is Free Software, and that's what counts, especially when
> it comes to running that software on architectures that would be
> otherwise unsupported. An eleven hundred dollar box of software is
> worthless if it won't even run on your machine.[/color]

Like I said, you are not a professional.
A professional needs professional, industry standard tools in order to get
the work out.
The UI is most important.
Transportability is another issue.
Skill at using is another.

Can they use free software?
Probably, but why would they want to?

You want to because you are a radical with an agenda.
The guy using Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.

Think of it this way, you are hanging a picture on a wall.
Do you really need a $150.00 hammer with a carbon fiber handle?
Would you even know the difference between that one or the $3.99 Dollar
Heaven Special?

Probably not.

A person who is a professional carpenter will though which is why he will
more than likely have a much higher grade ($$$$$$$) of tools than you will.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
[url]http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/[/url]

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:41 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:89lnj8n77a38.11mpq1ebngtzj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:19:34 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> | John Nash, network manager and head of ICT for SIA, said: "This
>>>>> academic
>>>>> | year, rather than using proprietary software, what we've done is
>>>>> be slightly
>>>>> | different and use things like the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation
>>>>> Program)
>>>>> | instead of Photoshop, Scribus for desktop publishing and
>>>>> InkScape, which is a
>>>>> | full, scalable vector graphics program."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yea, that will look great on a resume .
>>>>
>>>> I can see it now:
>>>>
>>>> Interviewer: "Do you have any Photoshop experience?"
>>>>
>>>> Job Applicant: " Well I've been using Gimp"
>>>>
>>>> Interviewer: " You don't seem like a Gimp to me. Why are you so hard on
>>>> yourself?"
>>>>
>>>> Job Applicant: "No, no no. I didn't say I *am* a Gimp, I said I
>>>> *use* Gimp.
>>>>
>>>> It's a *GNU* program.
>>>>
>>>> Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's *new*? What happened to the old version?
>>>>
>>>> Well leave your resume with the secretary and we will be in touch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or it could go....
>>>
>>> Interviewer: Hey, can you teach us?
>>>
>>> Job Applicant: Yep, no problem.
>>>
>>> Interviewer: When can you start?[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> Yea sure.....
>>
>> The idea is to USE Photoshop to produce products that earn the company
>> $$$$$
>>
>> The idea is NOT to have some new hire come into the company and
>> proceed to
>> try and switch the staff, most of whom are probably experts at Photoshop,
>> to Gimp.
>>
>> Obviously you've never worked at a real job or you wouldn't be making an
>> idiotic comment like that.
>>
>> BTW I thought you kill filed me?
>>[/color]
> hehehe...I see that we already have one idiot moron loser (mr drunken
> pig in cause you haven't already guessed) who actually thinks that
> "gimp" (where do those fukkin linux FANATICAL ZEALOTS COME UP WITH SUCH
> STUPID FUKKIN NAMES?) is equal to Adobe Photoshop CS3!
> Obviously, all this jackass does is crop his p&s snaps!...LOL!
> Frank
>[/color]
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>[/color]
Now that dumb fukk wants us to believe that he actually knows how to use
Photoshop...ahhahahahahahah...that is downright hilarious!!!
Especially when that ****-for-brains drunken pig can't even get his one
little install of Vista Business to run properly!
He's pathetic!
But his lies a priceless!!!
Frank

Adam Albright wrote:
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> Frank being nothing but a **** stained jackass and ****wit has no idea
> what a acronym is.[/color]

it would help if you would not respond to his assinine post. frank is
nothing but a nym-shifting son of a bitch, just like flatfish.

here is a list of all of the nyms he changes to get past filters with.
however, the stupid bastard post from his own isp, which he cannot mask or
hide behind. if i were you, i would send a abuse report to his isp

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:04:48 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
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> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:51:59 +0100, Homer wrote:
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>> Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:[color=darkred]
>>> * chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.
>>>
>>> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors[/url]
>>>
>>> This list shows Photoshop and GIMP in the same list, along with a lot
>>> of other graphics editors that really /are/ obscure.
>>>
>>> And GIMP is supported on more platform's than is Photoshop. And it
>>> competes pretty well with Photoshop and and Paintshop Pro on features.[/color]
>>
>> I've used Photoshop and I've used the Gimp, and other than Photoshop's
>> £571.99 GBP ($1,123.32 USD) price tag [1], I can't really see much
>> difference.[/color]
>
> That's because you are not a professional. Think UI.[/color]

Think: people who intially learn one UI and become very comfortable with
it are almost always uncomfortable with a different UI.
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>
>[color=green]
>> Like I've said before, Photoshop is one of the most over-hyped and
>> overpriced pieces of software ever.[/color]
>
> And Gimp is free and multiplatform to boot. If Gimp was a Photoshop
> killer, it would have killed Photoshop by now. It's not.[/color]

Photoshop was developed for print. Gimp was not. Photoshop was developed
for professional use. Gimp was not. Photoshop was developed decades ago.
Gimp was not.
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>
>[color=green]
>> It kind of makes you wonder exactly /who/ is providing all that hype,
>> doesn't it, given that so few people can afford it?[/color]
>
> Again, Photoshop is targeted at professionals. The lite versions are
> more than enough for amateaurs though.[/color]

Gimp is fine for amateurs. But, since many people don't seem to have a
problem with software piracy, many will just "obtain" it.
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>
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Not bad for a freebie.[/color]
>>
>> Bloody excellent for a freebie, but more importantly it's Free, which
>> is all I really care about. It could cost double the price of Photoshop
>> for all I care, it is Free Software, and that's what counts, especially
>> when it comes to running that software on architectures that would be
>> otherwise unsupported. An eleven hundred dollar box of software is
>> worthless if it won't even run on your machine.[/color]
>
> Like I said, you are not a professional. A professional needs
> professional, industry standard tools in order to get the work out.
> The UI is most important.
> Transportability is another issue.
> Skill at using is another.
>
> Can they use free software?
> Probably, but why would they want to?
>
> You want to because you are a radical with an agenda. The guy using
> Photoshop is an artist who wants to earn a living.[/color]

Yeah. All those people that have pirated Photoshop are professional
artists.
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>
> Think of it this way, you are hanging a picture on a wall. Do you really
> need a $150.00 hammer with a carbon fiber handle? Would you even know
> the difference between that one or the $3.99 Dollar Heaven Special?
>
> Probably not.
>
> A person who is a professional carpenter will though which is why he
> will more than likely have a much higher grade ($$$$$$$) of tools than
> you will.[/color]

--
Rick

Linonut wrote:
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>* chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:
>[color=green]
>> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> They probably should. But, not some obscure junk like 'Gimp'.
>>>
>>> Ignore the forger.[/color]
>>
>> Erm... Isn't that you?
>>
>> *plonk*[/color]
>
>No. Astraweb ==> bad chrisv, Giganews ==> good chrisv.[/color]

Shouldn't that say "Giganews ==> great chrisv"? 8)