>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:

Erick> Hi, After compiling kernel 2.4.23 on Debian 3.0 my Promise TX2
Erick> Ultra133 (20269) ATA adapter is detected as ide2. However, the
Erick> kernel cannot enable DMA on the attached Maxtor 250GB
Erick> (7Y250P0) ATA disk. I am pretty sure it is not a cable issue.
Erick> I know of someone else who gets the same errors with the same
Erick> card and a different drive (tested using several UDMA-capable
Erick> cables).

Erick> I searched Usenet archives and found only references to
Erick> bad/overlong cables and unsupported DMA in the driver. I guess
Erick> DMA is supported in this driver so I'm puzzled.

Check out this groups archives this issue has been discussed in depth.
Go to google groups advanced search, and search on promise in this
group.

Erick> I compiled out DMA from the kernel. No errors on boot (with
Erick> PIO mode) afterwards. I *am* able to use ``hdparm -X66 -d1''
Erick> to enable UDMA2 mode manually at that point. So far this seems
Erick> to work without error (after some basic testing). (FWIW I
Erick> found tweaking DMA with hdparm this way on a mounted fs leads
Erick> to the errors above. Unmounted, it is ok.)

A real hack but hay it works.

Erick> Perhaps I should try a bleeding edge kernel? Or, is it
Erick> sufficent, do you guess, to add hdparm commands to my
Erick> rc.local?

Not really this is a known problem with promise controllers and alpha
boxes. Because IDE controllers are so cheap no one has really tried to
figure out if it is a cable problem, hardware incompatiblity, or
driver bug. I had the exact same error message when trying to use
a promise controller. I switch to a silicon image controller and have
not had any problems. Running raid1 with two 160Gig drives. Someone
else in the group has had success with highpoint controllers. The
silicon image controller was half the price of the promise controller.

Good luck.

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:22:00 -0600, Spam Me Please wrote:

>>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:
[snip]
> Erick> PIO mode) afterwards. I *am* able to use ``hdparm -X66 -d1''
> Erick> to enable UDMA2 mode manually at that point. So far this seems
[snip]
> Erick> Perhaps I should try a bleeding edge kernel? Or, is it
[snip]
> Not really this is a known problem with promise controllers and alpha
> boxes. Because IDE controllers are so cheap no one has really tried to
> figure out if it is a cable problem, hardware incompatiblity, or driver
> bug. I had the exact same error message when trying to use a promise
> controller. I switch to a silicon image controller and have not had any

I think you use RAID adapter... are you aware of a vanilla SI parallel ATA
adapter that might work (with Debian)? (BTW, just for fun, I compiled
2.6.0, but boot failed.)

>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:

Erick> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:22:00 -0600, Spam Me Please wrote:
>>>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:
Erick> [snip] PIO mode) afterwards. I *am* able to use ``hdparm -X66
Erick> -d1'' to enable UDMA2 mode manually at that point. So far this
Erick> seems [snip] Perhaps I should try a bleeding edge kernel? Or,
Erick> is it [snip]
>> Not really this is a known problem with promise controllers and
>> alpha boxes. Because IDE controllers are so cheap no one has
>> really tried to figure out if it is a cable problem, hardware
>> incompatiblity, or driver bug. I had the exact same error message
>> when trying to use a promise controller. I switch to a silicon
>> image controller and have not had any

Erick> I think you use RAID adapter... are you aware of a vanilla SI
Erick> parallel ATA adapter that might work (with Debian)? (BTW, just
Erick> for fun, I compiled 2.6.0, but boot failed.)

You are correct I have the raid adapter, but don't use the raid stuff.
Anyway the raid on these cards is an hybrid software/bios that is
really not that fast. So that is why these cards are so cheap.
Actually the raid SI version was cheaper than vanilla promise version.
I have not seen a vanilla (non-raid) SI card.

Here is the information from the Linux kernel docs:


Linux Kernel v2.4.23 Configuration
qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
lqqqqqqqqqqqq Support for IDE Raid controllers (EXPERIMENTAL) qqqqqqqqqqqqk
x CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID: x
x x
x Say Y or M if you have an IDE Raid controller and want linux x
x to use its softwareraid feature. You must also select an x
x appropriate for your board low-level driver below. x
x x
x Note, that Linux does not use the Raid implementation in BIOS, and x
x the main purpose for this feature is to retain compatibility and x
x data integrity with other OS-es, using the same disk array. Linux x
x has its own Raid drivers, which you should use if you need better x
x performance. x
x x
x This driver is also available as a module ( = code which can be x
x inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). x
x If you want to compile it as a module, say M here and read x
x Documentation/modules.txt. The module will be called ataraid.o

Erick writes:

>> Not really this is a known problem with promise controllers and alpha
>> boxes. Because IDE controllers are so cheap no one has really tried to
>> figure out if it is a cable problem, hardware incompatiblity, or driver
>> bug. I had the exact same error message when trying to use a promise
>> controller. I switch to a silicon image controller and have not had any
>
> I think you use RAID adapter... are you aware of a vanilla SI parallel ATA
> adapter that might work (with Debian)? (BTW, just for fun, I compiled
> 2.6.0, but boot failed.)

Those are software fakeraid, so it doesn't really make a difference.
My Highpoint is also of that kind. I use Linux software raid instead.

As for 2.6.0, it works fine on my SX164. I've been running 2.5
kernels on my Miata for a long time.

--
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:28:47 -0600, Spam Me Please wrote:

>>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:
[snip]
> Erick> I think you use RAID adapter... are you aware of a vanilla SI
> Erick> parallel ATA adapter that might work (with Debian)? [snip]
>
> You are correct I have the raid adapter, but don't use the raid stuff.
> Anyway the raid on these cards is an hybrid software/bios that is really
> not that fast. So that is why these cards are so cheap. Actually the
> raid SI version was cheaper than vanilla promise version. I have not
> seen a vanilla (non-raid) SI card.
[snip]

May I ask if you are using Silicon Image model# "CCD-SD-SIL680-RAID"
(SIL680)?

My ultimate purpose is to insert the 3 300GB Maxtor drives I just received
into my DP264 (as JBOD). However, I guess if I really want to be smart
about I should return those parallel ATA drives and get the new 250GB SATA
Maxtors. (I guess I should use the Highpoint "Rocket RAID 1540" for that.)

Erick writes:

> My ultimate purpose is to insert the 3 300GB Maxtor drives I just received
> into my DP264 (as JBOD). However, I guess if I really want to be smart
> about I should return those parallel ATA drives and get the new 250GB SATA
> Maxtors. (I guess I should use the Highpoint "Rocket RAID 1540" for that.)

I'm using a Highpoint RocketRAID 1540 with parallel Seagate drives in
an SX164. No problems there.

--
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se

>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:

Erick> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:28:47 -0600, Spam Me Please wrote:
>>>>>>> "Erick" == Erick writes:
Erick> [snip] I think you use RAID adapter... are you aware of a
Erick> vanilla SI parallel ATA adapter that might work (with Debian)?
Erick> [snip]
>> You are correct I have the raid adapter, but don't use the raid
>> stuff. Anyway the raid on these cards is an hybrid software/bios
>> that is really not that fast. So that is why these cards are so
>> cheap. Actually the raid SI version was cheaper than vanilla
>> promise version. I have not seen a vanilla (non-raid) SI card.
Erick> [snip]

Erick> May I ask if you are using Silicon Image model#
Erick> "CCD-SD-SIL680-RAID" (SIL680)?

Erick> My ultimate purpose is to insert the 3 300GB Maxtor drives I
Erick> just received into my DP264 (as JBOD). However, I guess if I
Erick> really want to be smart about I should return those parallel
Erick> ATA drives and get the new 250GB SATA Maxtors. (I guess I
Erick> should use the Highpoint "Rocket RAID 1540" for that.)

Looks like the same model.

lspci -v shows this
02:09.0 RAID bus controller: CMD Technology Inc PCI0680 (rev 02)
Subsystem: CMD Technology Inc: Unknown device 3680
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 28

Here is my previous post on this matter in detail.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sp...ast.net&rnum=1


Good luck and let us know if this works!