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  1. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of Development Model

    * Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > Hash: SHA1
    >
    > Firefox 3 ? First Look review
    >
    > ,----[ Quote ]
    >| With Firefox 3.0 now reaching Release Candidate stage is it stable enough to
    >| warrant upgrading or should you hold fire? We tested it against Firefox 2.0
    >| on the Mac and IE7 on the PC to find out.
    > `----
    >
    > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/reviews...r-PC-Mac.phtml


    I'm liking Firefox 3. Can't wait to have some time to track down a
    64-bit version.

    Errm, no they don't, Bill:

    --
    People everywhere love Windows.
    -- Bill Gates

  2. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of Development Model

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    ____/ Linonut on Saturday 24 May 2008 20:34 : \____

    > * Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >
    >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    >> Hash: SHA1
    >>
    >> Firefox 3 ? First Look review
    >>
    >> ,----[ Quote ]
    >>| With Firefox 3.0 now reaching Release Candidate stage is it stable enough
    >>| to warrant upgrading or should you hold fire? We tested it against Firefox
    >>| 2.0 on the Mac and IE7 on the PC to find out.
    >> `----
    >>
    >>

    http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/reviews...r-PC-Mac.phtml
    >
    > I'm liking Firefox 3. ┬*Can't wait to have some time to track down a
    > 64-bit version.
    >
    > Errm, no they don't, Bill:
    >
    > People everywhere love Windows.
    > -- Bill Gates


    - From the same person who believes that people everywhere would buy a phat table
    for $5000 to run vapourware demo. It reminds me of something very recent:

    SPOT watches, R.I.P.: 2004 - 2008

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | After a long, painful, nearly anonymous ride on the wrists of a select few
    | uber-geeks, Microsoft's finally throwing in the towel on one of its
    | longstanding pet projects: the SPOT watch. Those who've followed the
    | technology recently (you know who you are) already know that the writing's
    | been on the wall for some time; the applications and content available to the
    | watches haven't been updated in ages, and indeed, the entire line of Abacus
    | Smart Watch 2006 models -- the only type being recently offered -- has been
    | discontinued and out of stock for a few months.
    `----

    http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/s...-i-p-2004-2008

    Ellis(on) in Wonderland.


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    ~~ Best of wishes

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  3. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of DevelopmentModel

    Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:

    > I'm liking Firefox 3. Can't wait to have some time to track down a
    > 64-bit version.


    Just get Swiftweasel:

    Swiftweasel is an optimized build of the Mozilla Firefox web browser for
    Linux. With builds for both AMD and Intel processors. Swiftweasel is
    100% compatible with all Firefox themes, plugins, and extensions.
    http://swiftweasel.tuxfamily.org/about.php

    http://downloads.sourceforge.net/swi...1&big_mirror=0

    They have debs too, although they're for 'buntu. Or you could just build
    it yourself (of course)

    --
    K.
    http://slated.org

    ..----
    | 'When it comes to knowledge, "ownership" just doesn't make sense'
    | ~ Cory Doctorow, The Guardian. http://tinyurl.com/22bgx8
    `----

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    19:03:44 up 158 days, 15:39, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.09

  4. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of Development Model

    Homer wrote:

    >Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:
    >
    >> I'm liking Firefox 3. Can't wait to have some time to track down a
    >> 64-bit version.

    >
    >Just get Swiftweasel:


    Is that evolved from the now-defunct SwiftFox?


  5. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of DevelopmentModel

    Verily I say unto thee, that chrisv spake thusly:
    > Homer wrote:
    >> Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:


    >>> I'm liking Firefox 3. Can't wait to have some time to track down
    >>> a 64-bit version.

    >>
    >> Just get Swiftweasel:

    >
    > Is that evolved from the now-defunct SwiftFox?


    Reports of SwiftFox's demise have been greatly exaggerated, since
    3.0pre-4 is available here:

    http://getswiftfox.com/builds/releas...hlon64.tar.bz2

    However, be aware that this is /not/ Free Software:

    SWIFTFOX LICENSE AND RESTRICTIONS
    -------------------------------------

    1. Swiftfox binaries are not distributed under the MPL
    license and are not freely distributable. Swiftfox
    is licensed only to the user that downloads the
    binary from getswiftfox.com and no distribution
    to other parties is allowable under this license.
    Download of any binary from getswiftfox.com
    constitutes acceptance of these terms.

    2. Swiftfox source code is available for download from
    getswiftfox.com which is in keeping with the
    requirements set forth by mozilla.org. This source
    code includes all patches that have been applied to
    create Swiftfox other than those that involve
    branding. Swiftfox source code compiles correctly
    on my build machine. No warranty or support is
    provided for builders.

    3. Source code only is licensed MPL as required by
    mozilla.org http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.txt
    Binaries are not MPL and no redistribution of
    binaries is allowable under any circumstances.
    http://getswiftfox.com/LICENSE

    OTOH, Swiftweasel /is/ Free Software, as well as having the code
    optimisation benefits of SwiftFox:

    License

    Swiftweasel and Swiftdove source code is licensed under the Mozilla
    Public License 1.1 also known as the MPL. As such the source code is
    freely available under the MPL as are the changes. This project has
    anonymous read-only CVS access. As well as web based access to the code.
    All changes and modifications to the source to make Swiftweasel and
    Swiftdove will also be under the MPL 1.1.

    Binaries

    The binary releases of Swiftweasel and Swiftdove will also be licensed
    under the MPL. Unaltered binary packages are freely distributable and
    redistributable.
    http://swiftweasel.wiki.sourceforge....+and+Trademark

    Of course the Debian Iceweasel project (the first to break from Mozilla
    due to the trademark nonsense [1]) is still alive and well:

    http://packages.debian.org/iceweasel

    And GNU IceCat (previously, and rather confusingly, known as GNU
    IceWeasel) is also ongoing, albeit at a slightly slower pace:

    http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

    Shortly after the inception of Gobuntu, and much heated debate about
    whether or not it should depreciate Firefox in favour of Debian's
    Iceweasel (Gobuntu was supposed to be a /radical/ implementation of
    Freedom, after all), Mozilla Corp. made a half-hearted attempt at a
    concession, called "Mozilla Community Edition":

    A Community Edition is a version of Mozilla software that has some set
    of customizations beyond those normally allowed under the Mozilla
    Trademark Policy.

    ....

    The following changes are permitted within Community Editions:

    * Change certain preference settings
    [etc]

    ....

    Community members and organizations can start using the "Firefox
    Community Edition" and "Thunderbird Community Edition" trademarks from
    day one, but the Mozilla Foundation may require individuals or teams to
    stop doing so in the future if they are redistributing software with low
    quality and efforts to remedy the situation have not succeeded. Doing
    things this way allows us to give as much freedom to people as possible,
    while maintaining our trademarks as a mark of quality-- which we are
    required to do in order to keep them.
    "As much freedom as possible" sounds like a very lacklustre commitment
    to the principles of Free Software, however this change came at a very
    opportune moment, since Shuttleworth was adamant that he was sticking
    with Firefox, because keeping his promise of implementing a strictly
    Free version of Gobuntu, by maintaining a separate Free codebase, was of
    "little benefit":
    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/go...er/000415.html

    The Mozilla® mail client shipped with Fedora is similarly encumbered
    (Thunderbird®), which is one of many bugs I hope to remedy over the next
    few months (along with depreciating Mono, amongst other things) in a
    Free(er) fork of Fedora.


    [1]

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    | ~ Cory Doctorow, The Guardian. http://tinyurl.com/22bgx8
    `----

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    01:27:33 up 158 days, 22:03, 6 users, load average: 0.12, 0.10, 0.12

  6. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of Development Model

    On Wed, 28 May 2008 01:27:52 +0100, Homer wrote:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that chrisv spake thusly:
    >> Homer wrote:
    >>> Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:

    >
    >>>> I'm liking Firefox 3. Can't wait to have some time to track down
    >>>> a 64-bit version.
    >>>
    >>> Just get Swiftweasel:

    >>
    >> Is that evolved from the now-defunct SwiftFox?

    >
    > Reports of SwiftFox's demise have been greatly exaggerated, since
    > 3.0pre-4 is available here:


    Who cares?

    Does anyone really care about Swift-Fox?

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  7. Re: [News] Review of Firefox 3, Team Explains Success of Development Model

    Moshe Goldfarb (flatfish) in real life Gary Stewart

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