On Sep 25, 3:54 pm, Roy Schestowitz
wrote:
> Microsoft's Internet Atrocities
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Unfortunately, however, Microsoft has lived up to its name as a poor-quality
> | company when you consider their internet contributions. I consider
> | Microsoft's internet-related products as absolute atrocities that may have
> | set us back more than they've pushed us forward.
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | Internet Explorer x.x
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | FrontPage
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | IIS Server
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | ActiveX
> `----
>
> http://bludice.com/microsofts-internet-atrocities/
>
> Microsoft is not interested in improving the Web. It is interested in *owning*
> it and making cash.
>
> Related:
>
> Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web.
>
> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-11406...hreadID=33334&...
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | From: Bill Gates
> | Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
> | To: Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
> | Cc: Paul Mariz
> | Subject: Office rendering
> |
> | One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office
> | documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
> | most destructive things we could do to the company.
> |
> | We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
> | documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
> |
> | Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
> | to to destroy Windows.
> `----
>
> http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf
>
> Vista to give HD Photo format more exposure
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Microsoft is looking to supplant the ubiquitous JPEG with an image format
> | of its own--and it's hoping the debut of Windows Vista will help do the
> | job.
> `----
>
> http://news.com.com/Vista+to+give+HD...exposure/2100-...
>
> ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
> | in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
> | public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
> | Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
> | the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
> | etwork applications.
> `----
>
> http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS...of_Plotting_HT...

This is OFF TOPIC for comp.os.linux.advocacy Roy Schestowitz.
It belongs in a Vista group.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, gooseborg@gmail.com

wrote
on Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:32:41 -0700
<1190755961.108642.151870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>:

[snippage]

> This is OFF TOPIC for comp.os.linux.advocacy Roy Schestowitz.
> It belongs in a Vista group.
>

Yes sir, Mister Netcop sir. We'll do our best sir. Please
don't taze me sir...*bbbzzzzzzzzzzittt*...OWWWWWWWWWW....

:-P

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"The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in message
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> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, gooseborg@gmail.com
>
> wrote
> on Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:32:41 -0700
> <1190755961.108642.151870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>:
>
> [snippage]
>
>> This is OFF TOPIC for comp.os.linux.advocacy Roy Schestowitz.
>> It belongs in a Vista group.
>>
>
> Yes sir, Mister Netcop sir. We'll do our best sir. Please
> don't taze me sir...*bbbzzzzzzzzzzittt*...OWWWWWWWWWW....

Don't taze me bro!

*bbbzzzzzzzzzzittt*...OWWWWWWWWWW....




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____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Wednesday 26 September 2007 16:51 : \____

> It's all a means to an end anyway. Â*What is the Web,
> really? Â*The browser is a standardized fat client --
> and it's getting fatter. Â*The server's an extensible
> event-oriented processing engine -- the events being GET,
> POST, and PUT requests, with various payloads, responses,
> and payload interpretations, depending on context.

Yes, Microsoft knows this. So, for delivery you suddenly have Exhcnage and
SharePoint, which complicate things. Then you have REST for SOA. All
proprietary.

Then you have the /content/ delivered.... XAML/WPF, HD, OOXML, XPS...

Microsoft has a plan. It want to hijack/replace the Web with something it
controls and owns. Better get that Windows, eh? Or fight the abusive monopoly,
which is /buying/ companies in order to support it's nasty strategy. That
includes Novell, BTW...

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:06:23 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Microsoft has recently admitted that poor support for standard was deliberate.
> This is not surprising if you read some of Microsoft leaked memos (and
> antitrust exhibits).

What? Why do you feel the need to lie about things like this?

>> [3] IE now allows competition, mostly because it had to,
>> not because it wanted to. Mozilla's usage is now up
>> to over 20% by a number of accounts.
>
> I still believe that's partly because Microsoft tried to freeze advancement in
> Web browser technology. The Web was a threat to Microsoft's desktop apps,
> which only ran on Windows. When Microsoft elbowed Netscape (illegally) it sent
> its IE developers to the refrigerator (or Maui). That's why competition is
> needed. We could have that Ajax and Web 2.0 hype over 5 years ago.

We *DID* have AJAX 5 years ago, And guess what? Itw as invented by
Microsoft. It just wasn't aclled AJAX then, it was just a technique
Microsoft used in Hotmail that others, including Google, copied.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:48:10 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

> We *DID* have AJAX 5 years ago, And guess what? Itw as invented by
> Microsoft. It just wasn't aclled AJAX then, it was just a technique
> Microsoft used in Hotmail that others, including Google, copied.

If I recall, Microsoft *bought* hotmail. So it's not Microsoft
that invented it.

Verily I say unto thee, that Bob Tennent spake thusly:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:48:10 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>> We *DID* have AJAX 5 years ago, And guess what? Itw as invented by
>> Microsoft. It just wasn't aclled AJAX then, it was just a
>> technique Microsoft used in Hotmail that others, including Google,
>> copied.
>
> If I recall, Microsoft *bought* hotmail. So it's not Microsoft that
> invented it.

But that's what "invented" means, Shirley - "to buy, steal, copy, or
otherwise assimilate", according to the Microsoft pocket dictionary.

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On Sep 26, 2:56 pm, Bob Tennent wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:48:10 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> > We *DID* have AJAX 5 years ago, And guess what? Itw as invented by
> > Microsoft. It just wasn't aclled AJAX then, it was just a technique
> > Microsoft used in Hotmail that others, including Google, copied.
>
> If I recall, Microsoft *bought* hotmail. So it's not Microsoft
> that invented it.

Yes the did... have a look at wikipedia:

"Although the term Ajax was coined in 2005, most of the technologies
that enable Ajax started a decade earlier with Microsoft's initiatives
in developing Remote Scripting."

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On 26 Sep 2007 20:56:19 GMT, Bob Tennent wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:48:10 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> > We *DID* have AJAX 5 years ago, And guess what? Itw as invented by
> > Microsoft. It just wasn't aclled AJAX then, it was just a technique
> > Microsoft used in Hotmail that others, including Google, copied.
>
> If I recall, Microsoft *bought* hotmail. So it's not Microsoft
> that invented it.

Oh, yes, of course, and MS never did anything to change it in the 10 years
since then. Here's a hint. They bought Hotmail 10 years ago. AJAX showed
up in hotmail 6 or 7 years ago. I wonder how that happened?