Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
[url]http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/27/of-blogging-and-unemployment[/url]
The day started like any other day — get up, dink around for a bit, bus
into work, and start working through the stack of jobs. Just shy of an
hour after I got in, my manager came in and asked me to step into his
office when I had a chance. Sure, no biggie, and I headed over as soon as
I finished the job I was setting up.
“Okay, here’s the first question. Is this page,” and here he turned
his monitor towards me, letting me see my “Even Microsoft wants G5s”
post from last Thursday, “hosted on any Microsoft computer? Or is it on
your own?”
“It’s on mine. Well, it’s on a hosted site that I pay for, but no,
it’s not on anything of Microsoft’s.”
“Good. That means that as it’s your site on your own server, you have
the right to say anything you want. Unfortunately, Microsoft has the right
to decide that because of what you said, you’re no longer welcome on the
Microsoft campus.”
And that simply, as of about 2pm today, I once again joined the ranks of
the unemployed.
It seems that my post is seen by Microsoft Security as being a security
violation. The picture itself might have been permissible, but because I
also mentioned that I worked at the MSCopy print shop, and which building
it was in, it pushed me over the line. Merely removing the post was also
not an option — I offered, and my manager said that he had asked the
same thing — but the only option afforded me was to collect any personal
belongings I had at my workstation and be escorted out the door. They were
at least kind enough to let me be escorted out by one of my co-workers,
rather than sending security over to usher me out, but the end result is
the same.
More frustrating for me is that, having read stories here and there on the
‘net about people who had for one reason or another lost their jobs due
to something on their weblogs, I thought that I had done what I could to
avoid that possibility. To my mind, it’s an innocuous post. The presence
of Macs on the Microsoft campus isn’t a secret (for everything from
graphic design work to the Mac Business Unit), and when I took the
picture, I made sure to stand with my back to the building so that nothing
other than the computers and the truck would be shown — no building
features, no security measures, and no Microsoft personnel. However, it
obviously wasn’t enough.
So, I’m unemployed. I am somewhat lucky in that I’m not technically
unemployed — I am still on the roster for my temp agency, who has been
very good to me so far (and hopefully will continue to be), but as their
ability to place me anywhere does depend on the current job market, it’s
not a foolproof guarantee of employment coming in quickly. I’ve put a
call into them and let them know of the situation and that I’m available
and willing for whatever can be found, so with any luck, they’ll be able
to find a placement for me. However, it appears that it’s also time for
me to start hitting the streets and shopping my resume around again.
Wish me luck.
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"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
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Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
Ruben <ruben@www2.mrbrklyn.com> writes:
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> [url]http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/27/of-blogging-and-unemployment[/url]
>
> The day started like any other day — get up, dink around for a bit, bus
> into work, and start working through the stack of jobs. Just shy of an
> hour after I got in, my manager came in and asked me to step into his
> office when I had a chance. Sure, no biggie, and I headed over as soon as
> I finished the job I was setting up.[/color]
*snip*
Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
deserved to be fired.
Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:34:12 +0200, Hadron wrote:
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>
> Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
> deserved to be fired.[/color]
He expected Microsoft not to run Apple products
You Nameless Stupid Idiot Troll!
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[url]http://www.mrbrklyn.com[/url] - Interesting Stuff
[url]http://www.nylxs.com[/url] - Leadership Development in Free Software
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
[url]http://fairuse.nylxs.com[/url] DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
© Copyright for the Digital Millennium
Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:39:56 -0400, Ruben wrote:
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> On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:34:12 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
>> deserved to be fired.[/color]
>
> He expected Microsoft not to run Apple products
>
> You Nameless Stupid Idiot Troll!
>
> ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/color]
No, he took pictures in a secure area against his employment terms. It
didn't matter what the pictures were of.
Microsoft has a large Mac business unit. They sell Mac software. Do you
think they develop that sofware on PC's? It's entirely stupid, and
brainless on your part to pretend that the firing was to prevent the
information that Macs are in use at Microsoft.
Also, you dishonestly "forgot" to include the first part of the article
that says this:
"UPDATE: Please take the time to read my followup post, Fifteen Minutes of
Fame, for my thoughts on what happened after I posted the picture, why it
happened X and most importantly, why I dont blame Microsoft for their
actions. Thanks!"
[url]http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/29/fifteen-minutes-of-fame[/url]
Why are so many linux advocates so dishonest?
Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
Ruben wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:34:12 +0200, Hadron wrote:
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>>
>> Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
>> deserved to be fired.[/color]
>
> He expected Microsoft not to run Apple products[/color]
Why would he expect that? Microsoft develops one of the most popular
software packages for the Mac.
They also have Linux labs, last I heard.
Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks andsay so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
On May 4, 5:56 pm, "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Ruben wrote:[color=green]
> > On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:34:12 +0200, Hadron wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
> >> deserved to be fired.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > He expected Microsoft not to run Apple products[/color]
>
> Why would he expect that? Microsoft develops one of the most popular
> software packages for the Mac.
>
> They also have Linux labs, last I heard.[/color]
Sure, they also violated the user agreements with Borland years back.
They have no fear of the law. They got busted as a monopoly and Gates
should probably had been jailed, but if one disgruntled programmer
having a tough day is more than Trolls can comprehend, imagine if this
guy posted something like that, or something like this
The Usual Suspects
Ask any developer in Windows why Vista is plagued by delays, and
they'll say that the code is way too complicated, and that the pace of
coding has been tremendously slowed down by overbearing process.
These claims have already been covered in other popular literature. A
quick recap for those of you just joining the broadcast:
* Windows code is too complicated. It's not the components
themselves, it's their interdependencies. An architectural diagram of
Windows would suggest there are more than 50 dependency layers (never
mind that there also exist circular dependencies). After working in
Windows for five years, you understand only, say, two of them. Add to
this the fact that building Windows on a dual-proc dev box takes
nearly 24 hours, and you'll be slow enough to drive Miss Daisy.
* Windows process has gone thermonuclear. Imagine each little
email you send asking someone else to fill out a spreadsheet, comment
on a report, sign off on a decision -- is a little neutron shooting
about in space. Your innocent-seeming little neutron now causes your
heretofore mostly-harmless neighbors to release neutrons of their
own. Now imagine there are 9000 of you, all jammed into a tight
little space called Redmond. It's Windows Gone Thermonuclear, a
phenomenon by which process engenders further process, eventually
becoming a self-sustaining buzz of fervent destructive activity.
Let's see if, quantitatively, there's any truth to the perception that
the code velocity (net lines shipped per developer-year) of Windows
has slowed, or is slow relative to the industry. Vista is said to
have over 50 million lines of code, whereas XP was said to have around
40 million. There are about two thousand software developers in
Windows today. Assuming there are 5 years between when XP shipped and
when Vista ships, those quick on the draw with calculators will
discover that, on average, the typical Windows developer has produced
one thousand new lines of shipped code per year during Vista. Only a
thousand lines a year. (Yes, developers don't just write new code,
they also fix old code. Yes, some of those Windows developers were
partly busy shipping 64-bit XP. Yes, many of them also worked on
hotfixes. Work with me here.)
Lest those of you who wrote 5,000 lines of code last weekend pass a
kidney stone at the thought of Windows developers writing only a
thousand lines of code a year, realize that the average software
developer in the US only produces around (brace yourself) 6200 lines a
year. So Windows is in bad shape -- but only by a constant, not by an
order of magnitude. And if it makes you feel any better, realize that
the average US developer has fallen in KLOC productivity since 1999,
when they produced about 9000 lines a year. So Windows isn't alone in
this. [KLOC data comes from Worldwide IT Trends & Benchmark Report
2001, produced by META Group (now acquired by Gartner)]
The oft-cited, oft-watercooler-discussed dual phenomenon of Windows
code complexity and Windows process burden seem to have dramatically
affected its overall code velocity. But code can be simplified and re-
architected (and is indeed being done so by a collection of veteran
architects in Windows, none of whom, incidentally, look anything like
Colonel Sanders). Process can be streamlined where inefficient,
eliminated where unnecessary.
But that's not where it ends. There are deeper causes of Windows'
propensity to slippage.
Cultured to Slip
Deep in the bowels of Windows, there remains the whiff of a bygone
culture of belittlement and aggression. Windows can be a scary place
to tell the truth.
When a vice president in Windows asks you whether your team will ship
on time, they might well have asked you whether they look fat in their
new Armani suit. The answer to the question is deeply meaningful to
them. It's certainly true in some sense that they genuinely want to
know. But in a very important other sense, in a sense that you'll
come to regret night after night if you get it wrong, there's really
only one answer you can give.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Think someone got fired when this was publish. More likely someone
was shot.
It seems that Microsoft has more security in their corporate offices
then on their clients desktop.
Ruben
Re: Microsoft fires people if they notice their security sucks and say so - Linux hires people that do the same thing!
mrbrklyn wrote:[color=blue]
> On May 4, 5:56 pm, "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Ruben wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:34:12 +0200, Hadron wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Err, what did he expect? The man is clearly a complete idiot and
>>>> deserved to be fired.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> He expected Microsoft not to run Apple products[/color]
>>
>> Why would he expect that? Microsoft develops one of the most popular
>> software packages for the Mac.
>>
>> They also have Linux labs, last I heard.[/color]
>
> Sure, they also violated the user agreements with Borland years back.[/color]
huh?
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> They have no fear of the law.[/color]
Why would they? They've done little or nothing wrong. Shipping a browser
and media player with an OS is an anti-trust offense just because everyone
uses your OS and refuses to adopt half-ass alternatives like Linux? Spare
me.
What should be against the law, and what should have resulted in her
immediate termination, is the "Competition Commissioner" Neelie Kroes
stating publicly:
"I want Microsoft's market share to diminish to significantly less than 95%.
I can't say that it has to be precisely 50% or whatever number, but it has
to be significantly less than 95%."
[url]http://blog.actonline.org/2007/09/nellie-kroes-pr.html[/url]
Fine - so let the people decide what OS they want and see what happens...
wait, the people decided they wanted Windows more than a decade ago, and
they continue to vote Windows to this very day.
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> They got busted as a monopoly and Gates
> should probably had been jailed,[/color]
Monopolies aren't against the law.
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> but if one disgruntled programmer
> having a tough day is more than Trolls can comprehend, imagine if this
> guy posted something like that, or something like this
>
> The Usual Suspects[/color]
Link that Rube is too lazy to post
[url]http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archive/2006/06/14/631438.aspx[/url]
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> Think someone got fired when this was publish. More likely someone
> was shot.[/color]
What actually happened was nothing, of course. That was written by Philip
Su, an ex-Windows developer, and he's still with MS.
[url]http://blogs.msdn.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=3789[/url]. And the original
article is still available on a MS-hosted blog.
Which proves, once again, that all the ignorant stupidity Linux "advocates"
write about MS controlling the media and repressing its employees is just
more mindless blather by silly wackos. Like you, Rube.