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  1. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    On Sat, 3 May 2008 13:49:51 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:44:30 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried to
    >>>> hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making it
    >>>> look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you posit a
    >>>> scenario that is even remotely believable that would have Reiser
    >>>> claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?
    >>>
    >>> Why would I need posit a scenario?
    >>>
    >>> AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was on
    >>> TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems they
    >>> voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court. It has
    >>> been said in several articles that taking the stand may well have been
    >>> what convicted him.
    >>>
    >>> Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do I
    >>> think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts about
    >>> her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    >>> conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.

    >>
    >> OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    >> your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    >> value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    >> his testimony that he did not kill his wife.

    >
    > Rick is a defense lawyer's dream juror.
    >
    > He's the kind of guy that will analyze everything, right down to the
    > minutia but at the same time somehow reason away the fact that the suspect
    > was found by the police, hovering over the victim, covered in blood,
    > holding a gun that was recently shot, had powder burns on his hands and had
    > recently purchased said gun with his credit card....
    >
    > Rick would have been a natural for the OJ jury.


    FWIW that is a hypothetical case for illustrative purposes only.

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  2. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Moshe Goldfarb is flatfish (in real life Gary Stewart)

    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/...arb-troll.html
    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ish-troll.html

    Traits:

    * Nym shifting (see below)
    * Self confessed thief and proud of it
    * Homophobic
    * Racist
    * Habitual liar
    * Frequently cross posts replies to other non-Linux related newsgroups
    * Frequently cross posts articles originally not posted to COLA

  3. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 13:49:51 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:44:30 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried
    >>>> to hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making
    >>>> it look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you
    >>>> posit a scenario that is even remotely believable that would have
    >>>> Reiser claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?
    >>>
    >>> Why would I need posit a scenario?
    >>>
    >>> AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was
    >>> on TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems
    >>> they voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court.
    >>> It has been said in several articles that taking the stand may well
    >>> have been what convicted him.
    >>>
    >>> Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do
    >>> I think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts
    >>> about her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    >>> conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.

    >>
    >> OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    >> your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    >> value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    >> his testimony that he did not kill his wife.

    >
    > Rick is a defense lawyer's dream juror.
    >
    > He's the kind of guy that will analyze everything, right down to the
    > minutia but at the same time somehow reason away the fact that the
    > suspect was found by the police, hovering over the victim, covered in
    > blood, holding a gun that was recently shot, had powder burns on his
    > hands and had recently purchased said gun with his credit card....
    >
    > Rick would have been a natural for the OJ jury.


    You are lying puke.


    --
    Rick

  4. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Tim Smith wrote:

    > OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    > your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    > value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    > his testimony that he did not kill his wife.


    BTW, does anyone know what Reiser's son said when he was flown in from
    Russia to testify before a judge? His pretrial statements were
    contradictory concerning the question whether he saw his mother driving
    away from his father's home after she had dropped off the children.

  5. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:

    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >>
    >> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>

    > Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you believe
    > this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his wife. You
    > don't believe this because he testified to it.


    Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.


    --
    Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
    walnut paneling and an all leather interior.




  6. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    O62dnUDF1MiQ64bVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@supernews.com on 5/2/08 1:14 PM:

    > On Fri, 02 May 2008 12:52:56 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >>>>>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >>>>>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>
    >>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.

    >>
    >> Wow.
    >>
    >> "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is something
    >> that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him. Generally, when people
    >> testify to something that is against their self-interest like that, they
    >> are telling the truth.
    >>
    >> They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    >> into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    >
    > IOW... you believe the parts you want ...
    >

    Not what he said at all. You lied.


    --
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
    that take our breath away.




  7. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder.OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    O62dnUPF1MjO64bVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@supernews.com on 5/2/08 1:15 PM:

    > On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:08 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
    >
    >> Rick wrote:
    >> [...]
    >>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >>
    >> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...8/hans-reiser-

    > found-guilty-first
    >>
    >> ------
    >> After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted on
    >> taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm advice.
    >> He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the witness
    >> stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    >> portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept and
    >> awkward.
    >>
    >> As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    >> obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    >> unsympathetic defendant.
    >>
    >> In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    >> believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    >> his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.
    >>
    >> By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    >> prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and
    >> placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead. It was
    >> maybe an arrogant move.
    >>
    >> Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    >> second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him not
    >> guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    >> the harshest judgement.
    >> ------
    >>
    >> regards,
    >> alexander.

    >
    > ... it seems the jury did not like him.
    >
    >

    Like or not they judged him guilty of first degree murder. This does not,
    of course, prove he is actually guilty, but there does not seem to be much
    reason to think otherwise.


    --
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    limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and
    great nations. - David Friedman


  8. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    m5SdnWaqI5Xx74HVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/3/08 7:10 AM:

    > On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:53:42 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is
    >>>> something that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him.
    >>>> Generally, when people testify to something that is against their
    >>>> self-interest like that, they are telling the truth.
    >>>>
    >>>> They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    >>>> into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.
    >>>
    >>> IOW... you believe the parts you want ...

    >>
    >> Wow. I am again speechless. Do you know *anything* about normal human
    >> behavior?

    >
    > Yes, I do.


    Above you were simply lying.


    --
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
    --Aldous Huxley


  9. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder.OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    m5SdnWKqI5XJ4oHVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/3/08 8:05 AM:

    > On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:20:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >> "Rick" wrote in message
    >> news:O62dnUPF1MjO64bVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@supernews.co m...
    >>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:08 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>> [...]
    >>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...8/hans-reiser-
    >>> found-guilty-first
    >>>>
    >>>> ------
    >>>> After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted
    >>>> on taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm
    >>>> advice. He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the
    >>>> witness stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    >>>> portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept
    >>>> and awkward.
    >>>>
    >>>> As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    >>>> obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    >>>> unsympathetic defendant.
    >>>>
    >>>> In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    >>>> believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    >>>> his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.
    >>>>
    >>>> By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    >>>> prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
    >>>> and placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead.
    >>>> It was maybe an arrogant move.
    >>>>
    >>>> Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree
    >>>> murder, second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him
    >>>> not guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree
    >>>> murder, the harshest judgement.
    >>>> ------
    >>>>
    >>>> regards,
    >>>> alexander.
    >>>
    >>> ... it seems the jury did not like him.

    >>
    >> Do you defend all scumbag murderers this way or only scumbag murderers
    >> that have linux on their resume?

    >
    > Look, asshole, I am not defending him. I simply stated, from their
    > comments, they jury did not like him.>
    >>
    >>
    >>> --
    >>> Rick

    >>
    >>
    >> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

    >
    > ... and you're still too stupid to configure your software....
    >
    >
    >

    You are doing all you can to try to defend him. To say otherwise would be
    dishonest.


    --
    Do you ever wake up in a cold sweat wondering what the world would be
    like if the Lamarckian view of evolution had ended up being accepted
    over Darwin's?


  10. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    m5SdnZylI5V0LYHVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/3/08 11:37 AM:

    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 13:49:51 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:44:30 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article ,
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>> What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried
    >>>>> to hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making
    >>>>> it look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you
    >>>>> posit a scenario that is even remotely believable that would have
    >>>>> Reiser claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?
    >>>>
    >>>> Why would I need posit a scenario?
    >>>>
    >>>> AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was
    >>>> on TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems
    >>>> they voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court.
    >>>> It has been said in several articles that taking the stand may well
    >>>> have been what convicted him.
    >>>>
    >>>> Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do
    >>>> I think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts
    >>>> about her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    >>>> conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.
    >>>
    >>> OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    >>> your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    >>> value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    >>> his testimony that he did not kill his wife.

    >>
    >> Rick is a defense lawyer's dream juror.
    >>
    >> He's the kind of guy that will analyze everything, right down to the
    >> minutia but at the same time somehow reason away the fact that the
    >> suspect was found by the police, hovering over the victim, covered in
    >> blood, holding a gun that was recently shot, had powder burns on his
    >> hands and had recently purchased said gun with his credit card....
    >>
    >> Rick would have been a natural for the OJ jury.

    >
    > You are lying puke.
    >

    Where do you think he is wrong?


    --
    "In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is. You're
    what's left." - Skip Hansen


  11. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Snit writes:

    > "Rick" stated in post
    > upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >
    >> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>> In article ,
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>>>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>>>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>>>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>
    >>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>

    >> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you believe
    >> this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his wife. You
    >> don't believe this because he testified to it.

    >
    > Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.


    It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to use
    logic in any consistent manner.

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    Being overloaded is the sign of a true Debian maintainer.
    -- JHM on #Debian

  12. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Hadron" stated in post
    fvjkke$sre$2@registered.motzarella.org on 5/3/08 11:21 PM:

    > Snit writes:
    >
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>
    >>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>> In article ,
    >>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>>>>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>>>>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>>>>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>
    >>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you believe
    >>> this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his wife. You
    >>> don't believe this because he testified to it.

    >>
    >> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.

    >
    > It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to use
    > logic in any consistent manner.


    Again? Still.


    --
    One who makes no mistakes, never makes anything.


  13. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > Snit writes:
    >
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>
    >>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>> In article ,
    >>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance
    >>>>>>>> try to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >>>>>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >>>>>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>
    >>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.

    >>
    >> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.

    >
    > It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    > use logic in any consistent manner.


    it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.

    --
    Rick

  14. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Rick writes:

    > On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Snit writes:
    >>
    >>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>
    >>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>> In article ,
    >>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance
    >>>>>>>>> try to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >>>>>>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >>>>>>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>
    >>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.

    >>
    >> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >> use logic in any consistent manner.

    >
    > it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.


    Which bit is a lie? Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.

    Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    you to comprehend?

  15. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    X92dnZ_uVc5MLoDVnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/4/08 6:02 AM:

    > On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Snit writes:
    >>
    >>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>
    >>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>> In article ,
    >>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance
    >>>>>>>>> try to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >>>>>>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >>>>>>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>
    >>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.

    >>
    >> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >> use logic in any consistent manner.

    >
    > it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.


    Maybe... just maybe... your next response will have some content of value.

    I wish you luck!


    --
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    Feel free to ask for the recipe.




  16. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Hadron" stated in post
    fvkcj2$c87$2@registered.motzarella.org on 5/4/08 6:09 AM:

    > Rick writes:
    >
    >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Snit writes:
    >>>
    >>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>>> In article ,
    >>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance
    >>>>>>>>>> try to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >>>>>>>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >>>>>>>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>>
    >>>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.
    >>>
    >>> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >>> use logic in any consistent manner.

    >>
    >> it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.

    >
    > Which bit is a lie? Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.
    >
    > Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    > you to comprehend?


    The part that contradicts his irrational biases.


    --
    "In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is. You're
    what's left." - Skip Hansen


  17. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:09:53 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > Rick writes:
    >
    >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Snit writes:
    >>>
    >>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>>> In article ,
    >>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a
    >>>>>>>>>> disappearance try to hide his car so police won't be able to
    >>>>>>>>>> search it?
    >>>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles
    >>>>>>>> away to try to find a place to hide the car from the police.
    >>>>>>>> (This is not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>>
    >>>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.
    >>>
    >>> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >>> use logic in any consistent manner.

    >>
    >> it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.

    >
    > Which bit is a lie?



    This is one o your lies:" It looks like Rick is getting confused again.
    He is totally unable to use logic in any consistent manner."

    > Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.


    I wasn't inconsistent

    >
    > Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    > you to comprehend?


    Maybe you should try to go buy some honesty.

    --
    Rick

  18. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Rick writes:

    > On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:09:53 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Rick writes:
    >>
    >>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Snit writes:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>>>> In article ,
    >>>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a
    >>>>>>>>>>> disappearance try to hide his car so police won't be able to
    >>>>>>>>>>> search it?
    >>>>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles
    >>>>>>>>> away to try to find a place to hide the car from the police.
    >>>>>>>>> (This is not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >>>> use logic in any consistent manner.
    >>>
    >>> it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.

    >>
    >> Which bit is a lie?

    >
    >
    > This is one o your lies:" It looks like Rick is getting confused again.
    > He is totally unable to use logic in any consistent manner."
    >
    >> Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.

    >
    > I wasn't inconsistent
    >
    >>
    >> Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    >> you to comprehend?

    >
    > Maybe you should try to go buy some honesty.


    I can only assume you have caught Liarnut disease. Your replies appear
    to have no relation to the previous post.

  19. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    X92dnZXuVc52KoDVnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/4/08 6:19 AM:

    > On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:09:53 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Rick writes:
    >>
    >>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Snit writes:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>>>> In article ,
    >>>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a
    >>>>>>>>>>> disappearance try to hide his car so police won't be able to
    >>>>>>>>>>> search it?
    >>>>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles
    >>>>>>>>> away to try to find a place to hide the car from the police.
    >>>>>>>>> (This is not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.
    >>>>
    >>>> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >>>> use logic in any consistent manner.
    >>>
    >>> it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.

    >>
    >> Which bit is a lie?

    >
    >
    > This is one o your lies:" It looks like Rick is getting confused again.
    > He is totally unable to use logic in any consistent manner."


    That is, to him, what it looks like. And with your claims about the murder
    trial is a well supported opinion.

    >> Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.

    >
    > I wasn't inconsistent


    You claimed inconsistencies in others where both of the claims were quit
    consistent with each other - both fit the pattern of what one would expect
    if one were guilty.

    >> Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    >> you to comprehend?

    >
    > Maybe you should try to go buy some honesty.


    His honesty is not the topic: the topic is if someone claiming they are
    innocent is consistent with what one would expect of someone who was guilty
    of murder. And it is. As is the other noted comments. You claims about
    these things have shown a lack of ability on your part to use basic
    knowledge and logic or even common sense.

    --
    "If you have integrity, nothing else matters." - Alan Simpson




  20. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Hadron" stated in post
    fvkg8e$t6v$3@registered.motzarella.org on 5/4/08 7:12 AM:

    > Rick writes:
    >
    >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:09:53 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rick writes:
    >>>
    >>>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:21:01 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Snit writes:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Rick" stated in post
    >>>>>> upqdnVxD9veA_obVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/1/08 11:50 PM:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>>>>> In article ,
    >>>>>>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a
    >>>>>>>>>>>> disappearance try to hide his car so police won't be able to
    >>>>>>>>>>>> search it?
    >>>>>>>>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>>>>>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >>>>>>>>>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles
    >>>>>>>>>> away to try to find a place to hide the car from the police.
    >>>>>>>>>> (This is not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>>>>>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >>>>>>> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >>>>>>> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Both fit with the idea he killed his wife.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It looks like Rick is getting confused again. He is totally unable to
    >>>>> use logic in any consistent manner.
    >>>>
    >>>> it looks like Hadron is a lying ass again.
    >>>
    >>> Which bit is a lie?

    >>
    >>
    >> This is one o your lies:" It looks like Rick is getting confused again.
    >> He is totally unable to use logic in any consistent manner."
    >>
    >>> Spotting your inconsistencies is not "lying" Rick.

    >>
    >> I wasn't inconsistent
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Which part of "a guilty man frequently pleads not guilty" is hard for
    >>> you to comprehend?

    >>
    >> Maybe you should try to go buy some honesty.

    >
    > I can only assume you have caught Liarnut disease. Your replies appear
    > to have no relation to the previous post.


    He prefers it that way... it is one method of his of burying his head.


    --
    If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law.
    Roy Santoro, Psycho Proverb Zone (http://snipurl.com/BurdenOfProof)






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