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  1. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Rick" stated in post
    I9GdnVMwiYhZcIfVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/2/08 3:32 AM:

    > On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:18:19 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>
    >>> Is that what Reiser did?

    >>
    >> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >
    > He also testified he did not kill his wife.


    You mean someone who was accused and found to be guilty of murder denied it.

    Wow. Unheard of.

    Sigh.


    --
    "If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
    - Anatole France




  2. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.


    "Snit" wrote in message
    news:C440835A.B6FF2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com.. .
    > "Rick" stated in post
    > I9GdnVMwiYhZcIfVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/2/08 3:32 AM:
    >
    >> On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:18:19 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article ,
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>
    >>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>
    >>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >>
    >> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >
    > You mean someone who was accused and found to be guilty of murder denied
    > it.
    >
    > Wow. Unheard of.


    In other breaking news John Gotti denies being a criminal and Charlie Manson
    says he's simply misunderstood.


    > Sigh.


    He just keeps getting dumber and dumber.



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  3. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    "Ezekiel" stated in post b5653$481b36af$4161@news.teranews.com on
    5/2/08 8:43 AM:

    >
    > "Snit" wrote in message
    > news:C440835A.B6FF2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com.. .
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> I9GdnVMwiYhZcIfVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@supernews.com on 5/2/08 3:32 AM:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:18:19 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> In article ,
    >>>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >>>
    >>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >>
    >> You mean someone who was accused and found to be guilty of murder denied
    >> it.
    >>
    >> Wow. Unheard of.

    >
    > In other breaking news John Gotti denies being a criminal and Charlie Manson
    > says he's simply misunderstood.


    And Bush says the war in Iraq is justified and legal. As is his
    wiretapping.

    >> Sigh.

    >
    > He just keeps getting dumber and dumber.
    >
    >
    >
    > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **




    --
    Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.
    --Albert Einstein


  4. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > >> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    > >> > to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    > >>
    > >> Is that what Reiser did?

    > >
    > > Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    > > find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    > > to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    > > speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >
    > He also testified he did not kill his wife.


    Wow. I'm speechless.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  5. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

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    On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200,
    Hadron wrote:
    > Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >
    >> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>
    >>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/

    >> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>
    >>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree murder,
    >>>> a member of the jury said today."
    >>>
    >>> ****in unreal.
    >>>
    >>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had a
    >>> ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>> missing.
    >>>
    >>> only in america.

    >>
    >> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,

    >
    > But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    > doubt ...
    >


    you might find a dictionary useful. Hint, procrastinating is probably
    not the word you really wanted above.



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  6. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.


    "Jim Richardson" wrote in message
    news:564se5-tfg.ln1@dragon.myth...
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    > On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200,
    > Hadron wrote:
    >> Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/
    >>> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree murder,
    >>>>> a member of the jury said today."
    >>>>
    >>>> ****in unreal.
    >>>>
    >>>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had a
    >>>> ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>>> missing.
    >>>>
    >>>> only in america.
    >>>
    >>> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,

    >>
    >> But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    >> doubt ...
    >>

    >
    > you might find a dictionary useful. Hint, procrastinating is probably
    > not the word you really wanted above.
    >


    You might find a writing guide useful. Hint, 'you' isn't the correct way to
    begin a sentence. Try 'You' instead.



    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  7. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

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    On Fri, 02 May 2008 02:45:50 -0400,
    Rick wrote:
    > Hadron wrote:
    >> Tim Smith writes:
    >>
    >>> In article ,
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >>>>> hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >>
    >> Oh my god. Rick is joining in on the "He was framed" route - is there
    >> anything these "works for me" advocates will hear that is negative about
    >> Linux or one of its main "personalities" without denying it?

    >
    > Oh my god. Hadron is a complete an utter ass that jumps to every base
    > less "conclusion" he sees.
    >


    Hadron's a troll. What else needs to be said about that?

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  8. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > >>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    > >>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    > >>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    > >>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    > >> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    > >
    > > Wow. I'm speechless.
    > >

    > Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you believe
    > this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his wife. You
    > don't believe this because he testified to it.


    Wow.

    "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is something
    that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him. Generally, when people
    testify to something that is against their self-interest like that, they
    are telling the truth.

    They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  9. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 12:52:56 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >> >>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying
    >> >>> to find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away
    >> >>> to try to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is
    >> >>> not speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).
    >> >> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >> >
    >> > Wow. I'm speechless.
    >> >

    >> Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you
    >> believe this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his
    >> wife. You don't believe this because he testified to it.

    >
    > Wow.
    >
    > "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is something
    > that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him. Generally, when people
    > testify to something that is against their self-interest like that, they
    > are telling the truth.
    >
    > They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    > into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.


    IOW... you believe the parts you want ...


    --
    Rick

  10. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder.OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:08 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

    > Rick wrote:
    > [...]
    >> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >
    > http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...8/hans-reiser-

    found-guilty-first
    >
    > ------
    > After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted on
    > taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm advice.
    > He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the witness
    > stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    > portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept and
    > awkward.
    >
    > As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    > obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    > unsympathetic defendant.
    >
    > In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    > believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    > his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.
    >
    > By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    > prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and
    > placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead. It was
    > maybe an arrogant move.
    >
    > Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    > second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him not
    > guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    > the harshest judgement.
    > ------
    >
    > regards,
    > alexander.


    .... it seems the jury did not like him.


    --
    Rick

  11. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 15:46:45 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > chrisv writes:
    >
    >> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>>> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance
    >>>> > try to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>>
    >>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>>
    >>>Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>>find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>>to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>>speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >>
    >> Yeah, I don't "get" the defense of this guy in here. He had a fair
    >> trial, and was convicted, yet some in here think they know more about
    >> it than the people who were in the jury box hearing all the evidence.
    >>
    >>

    > He's a Linux contributor. Therefore an "untouchable". It's the same as
    > saying Linux apps are superior to the Windows ones they copied.
    > Invariably they are not.


    Did you have to work hard to be so stupidly dishonest?


    --
    Rick

  12. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.


    "Rick" wrote in message
    news:O62dnUPF1MjO64bVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@supernews.co m...
    > On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:08 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
    >
    >> Rick wrote:
    >> [...]
    >>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >>
    >> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...8/hans-reiser-

    > found-guilty-first
    >>
    >> ------
    >> After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted on
    >> taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm advice.
    >> He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the witness
    >> stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    >> portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept and
    >> awkward.
    >>
    >> As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    >> obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    >> unsympathetic defendant.
    >>
    >> In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    >> believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    >> his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.
    >>
    >> By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    >> prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and
    >> placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead. It was
    >> maybe an arrogant move.
    >>
    >> Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    >> second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him not
    >> guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    >> the harshest judgement.
    >> ------
    >>
    >> regards,
    >> alexander.

    >
    > ... it seems the jury did not like him.


    Do you defend all scumbag murderers this way or only scumbag murderers that
    have linux on their resume?



    > --
    > Rick



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  13. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > > "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is something
    > > that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him. Generally, when people
    > > testify to something that is against their self-interest like that, they
    > > are telling the truth.
    > >
    > > They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    > > into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    >
    > IOW... you believe the parts you want ...


    Wow. I am again speechless. Do you know *anything* about normal human
    behavior?

    --
    --Tim Smith

  14. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > > Wow.
    > >
    > > "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is something
    > > that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him. Generally, when people
    > > testify to something that is against their self-interest like that, they
    > > are telling the truth.
    > >
    > > They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    > > into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    >
    > IOW... you believe the parts you want ...


    Wrong. I give much more weight to those that have the greatest
    probative value, as shown by the experience of thousands of years of
    humanity's experience with justice systems.

    Reiser's statement that he tried to hide the car is a "statement against
    interest". These have a very high probative value. So high, in fact,
    that if Reiser had not been available to testify, and the prosecution
    had tried to offer such a statement that he made to a third party, it
    would not be excluded by the hearsay rule. See California Evidence
    Code, section 1230:

    Evidence of a statement by a declarant having sufficient knowledge
    of the subject is not made inadmissible by the hearsay rule if the
    declarant is unavailable as a witness and the statement, when made,
    was so far contrary to the declarant's pecuniary or proprietary
    interest, or so far subjected him to the risk of civil or criminal
    liability, or so far tended to render invalid a claim by him against
    another, or created such a risk of making him an object of hatred,
    ridicule, or social disgrace in the community, that a reasonable man
    in his position would not have made the statement unless he believed
    it to be true.

    What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried to
    hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making it
    look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you posit a
    scenario that is even remotely believable that would have Reiser
    claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?

    --
    --Tim Smith

  15. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:53:42 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >> > "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is
    >> > something that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him.
    >> > Generally, when people testify to something that is against their
    >> > self-interest like that, they are telling the truth.
    >> >
    >> > They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    >> > into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    >>
    >> IOW... you believe the parts you want ...

    >
    > Wow. I am again speechless. Do you know *anything* about normal human
    > behavior?


    Yes, I do.

    --
    Rick

  16. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 15:12:51 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >> > Wow.
    >> >
    >> > "I tried to hide my car so the police could not search it" is
    >> > something that hurts Reiser, not something that helps him.
    >> > Generally, when people testify to something that is against their
    >> > self-interest like that, they are telling the truth.
    >> >
    >> > They use lies when they need to change something that is against them
    >> > into something that is favorable to them, not the other way around.

    >>
    >> IOW... you believe the parts you want ...

    >
    > Wrong. I give much more weight to those that have the greatest
    > probative value, as shown by the experience of thousands of years of
    > humanity's experience with justice systems.
    >
    > Reiser's statement that he tried to hide the car is a "statement against
    > interest". These have a very high probative value. So high, in fact,
    > that if Reiser had not been available to testify, and the prosecution
    > had tried to offer such a statement that he made to a third party, it
    > would not be excluded by the hearsay rule. See California Evidence
    > Code, section 1230:
    >
    > Evidence of a statement by a declarant having sufficient knowledge of
    > the subject is not made inadmissible by the hearsay rule if the
    > declarant is unavailable as a witness and the statement, when made,
    > was so far contrary to the declarant's pecuniary or proprietary
    > interest, or so far subjected him to the risk of civil or criminal
    > liability, or so far tended to render invalid a claim by him against
    > another, or created such a risk of making him an object of hatred,
    > ridicule, or social disgrace in the community, that a reasonable man
    > in his position would not have made the statement unless he believed
    > it to be true.
    >
    > What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried to
    > hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making it
    > look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you posit a
    > scenario that is even remotely believable that would have Reiser
    > claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?


    Why would I need posit a scenario?

    AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was on
    TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems they
    voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court. It has
    been said in several articles that taking the stand may well have been
    what convicted him.

    Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do I
    think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts about
    her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.

    --
    Rick

  17. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder.OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:20:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

    > "Rick" wrote in message
    > news:O62dnUPF1MjO64bVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@supernews.co m...
    >> On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:05:08 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rick wrote:
    >>> [...]
    >>>> He also testified he did not kill his wife.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...8/hans-reiser-

    >> found-guilty-first
    >>>
    >>> ------
    >>> After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted
    >>> on taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm
    >>> advice. He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the
    >>> witness stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    >>> portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept
    >>> and awkward.
    >>>
    >>> As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    >>> obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    >>> unsympathetic defendant.
    >>>
    >>> In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    >>> believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    >>> his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.
    >>>
    >>> By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    >>> prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
    >>> and placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead.
    >>> It was maybe an arrogant move.
    >>>
    >>> Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree
    >>> murder, second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him
    >>> not guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree
    >>> murder, the harshest judgement.
    >>> ------
    >>>
    >>> regards,
    >>> alexander.

    >>
    >> ... it seems the jury did not like him.

    >
    > Do you defend all scumbag murderers this way or only scumbag murderers
    > that have linux on their resume?


    Look, asshole, I am not defending him. I simply stated, from their
    comments, they jury did not like him.>
    >
    >
    >> --
    >> Rick

    >
    >
    > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


    .... and you're still too stupid to configure your software....



    --
    Rick

  18. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > > What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried to
    > > hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making it
    > > look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you posit a
    > > scenario that is even remotely believable that would have Reiser
    > > claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?

    >
    > Why would I need posit a scenario?
    >
    > AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was on
    > TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems they
    > voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court. It has
    > been said in several articles that taking the stand may well have been
    > what convicted him.
    >
    > Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do I
    > think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts about
    > her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    > conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.


    OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    his testimony that he did not kill his wife.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  19. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:44:30 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >>> What possible motive would Reiser have to lie and claim that he tried to
    >>> hide his car if he didn't in fact try to hide it? How does making it
    >>> look like he's trying to cover up a murder *help* him? Can you posit a
    >>> scenario that is even remotely believable that would have Reiser
    >>> claiming to have tried to hide the car if he had not done so?

    >>
    >> Why would I need posit a scenario?
    >>
    >> AGAIN... I did not follow this case like I did the OJ case, which was on
    >> TV every day. I have read comments by the jurors. And, it seems they
    >> voted guilty because they didn't like the way he acted in court. It has
    >> been said in several articles that taking the stand may well have been
    >> what convicted him.
    >>
    >> Do I think Nina Reiser is dead. More than probable. If she is dead, do I
    >> think Hans is the most likely suspect? Yes. I also have my doubts about
    >> her jealous, criminal, sadistic boyfriend. I have I heard of any
    >> conclusive evidence that she is dead and that he murdered her? No.

    >
    > OK, but that's the other branch of this thread. This branch is about
    > your implication that there is something wrong with accepting at face
    > value his testimony that he tried to hide the car, and not doing so for
    > his testimony that he did not kill his wife.


    Rick is a defense lawyer's dream juror.

    He's the kind of guy that will analyze everything, right down to the
    minutia but at the same time somehow reason away the fact that the suspect
    was found by the police, hovering over the victim, covered in blood,
    holding a gun that was recently shot, had powder burns on his hands and had
    recently purchased said gun with his credit card....

    Rick would have been a natural for the OJ jury.



    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  20. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Moshe Goldfarb is flatfish (in real life Gary Stewart)

    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/...arb-troll.html
    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ish-troll.html

    Traits:

    * Nym shifting (see below)
    * Self confessed thief and proud of it
    * Homophobic
    * Racist
    * Habitual liar
    * Frequently cross posts replies to other non-Linux related newsgroups
    * Frequently cross posts articles originally not posted to COLA

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