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  1. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article <3edj14d9iq7mf2ak7v46ik6r7p9t0c4co2@4ax.com>,
    chrisv wrote:

    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    > >(snipped, unread)


    Yet your following comments show that you did read it.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  2. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >
    >> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>
    >>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/

    >> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>
    >>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree
    >>>> murder, a member of the jury said today."
    >>>
    >>> ****in unreal.
    >>>
    >>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had
    >>> a ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>> missing.
    >>>
    >>> only in america.

    >>
    >> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,

    >
    > But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    > doubt ...
    >
    >> he's been convicted of murdering a woman who, for all anyone knows, is
    >> shacking up somewhere happy as a clam. Is that about right?

    >
    > A woman? His wife. You know full well. And this woman disappears leaving
    > her two kids? And at the same time she vanishes he removes a car seat
    > from a car which is subsequently found to be splashed with her blood? Oh
    > dear. Tape monkeys should stick to eating donouts and swapping tapes -
    > not talking about the finer aspects of law and order.




    "Authorities said inside the car they found a trace amount of the 31-year-
    old woman's blood on a sleeping bag cover.

    The officer, Sgt. Eric Stasiak of the Redwood City Police Department,
    said the vehicle looked like the defendant was living in it. The
    passenger seat, he said, was in the car. The defendant's attorney claims
    the husband at one point removed the seat and discarded it in a dumpster
    to make way for the defendant to live in the 1988 vehicle.

    Defense attorney William DuBois asked Stasiak whether he remembered
    "anything about the passenger seat that was unusual?"

    "No sir."

    DuBois continued querying the officer who patrols Redwood City, a small
    town about 25 miles southwest of here.

    "Let's say you saw it covered in blood. Would that make you want to
    investigate it?"

    "Yes."

    The officer said he ticketed the defendant for making an unsafe U-turn
    and let him go five minutes later.

    "It was very dirty inside," the officer said of the two-door, two-seater
    he stopped the evening of Sept. 12, 2006.

    "Sort of like it was lived in almost?" DuBois asked.

    "That's what it appeared to me," the officer said."


    "Shannon Cavness, a seven-year veteran in the Oakland police crime lab
    and a criminal evidence expert, testified a small amount of blood found
    on a sleeping"

    ... and you do know she had a relationship with a sadist who had a violent
    police record?


    >
    >
    >> If so, this is a frightening state of affairs.
    >>
    >>

    > The "advocates" become more ridiculous every day.


    From what I have read, the jury convicted because they didn't think
    Reiser behaved like he should have... apparently they thought he should
    have displayed grief for a woman he evidently hated and he thought was
    quite alive in Europe.

    --
    Rick

  3. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 15:46:23 -0500, Rick wrote:

    > On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/
    >>> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree
    >>>>> murder, a member of the jury said today."
    >>>>
    >>>> ****in unreal.
    >>>>
    >>>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had
    >>>> a ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>>> missing.
    >>>>
    >>>> only in america.
    >>>
    >>> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,

    >>
    >> But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    >> doubt ...
    >>
    >>> he's been convicted of murdering a woman who, for all anyone knows, is
    >>> shacking up somewhere happy as a clam. Is that about right?

    >>
    >> A woman? His wife. You know full well. And this woman disappears leaving
    >> her two kids? And at the same time she vanishes he removes a car seat
    >> from a car which is subsequently found to be splashed with her blood? Oh
    >> dear. Tape monkeys should stick to eating donouts and swapping tapes -
    >> not talking about the finer aspects of law and order.

    >
    >
    >
    > "Authorities said inside the car they found a trace amount of the 31-year-
    > old woman's blood on a sleeping bag cover.
    >
    > The officer, Sgt. Eric Stasiak of the Redwood City Police Department,
    > said the vehicle looked like the defendant was living in it. The
    > passenger seat, he said, was in the car. The defendant's attorney claims
    > the husband at one point removed the seat and discarded it in a dumpster
    > to make way for the defendant to live in the 1988 vehicle.
    >
    > Defense attorney William DuBois asked Stasiak whether he remembered
    > "anything about the passenger seat that was unusual?"
    >
    > "No sir."
    >
    > DuBois continued querying the officer who patrols Redwood City, a small
    > town about 25 miles southwest of here.
    >
    > "Let's say you saw it covered in blood. Would that make you want to
    > investigate it?"
    >
    > "Yes."
    >
    > The officer said he ticketed the defendant for making an unsafe U-turn
    > and let him go five minutes later.
    >
    > "It was very dirty inside," the officer said of the two-door, two-seater
    > he stopped the evening of Sept. 12, 2006.
    >
    > "Sort of like it was lived in almost?" DuBois asked.
    >
    > "That's what it appeared to me," the officer said."
    >
    >
    > "Shannon Cavness, a seven-year veteran in the Oakland police crime lab
    > and a criminal evidence expert, testified a small amount of blood found
    > on a sleeping"
    >
    > .. and you do know she had a relationship with a sadist who had a violent
    > police record?
    >
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>> If so, this is a frightening state of affairs.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> The "advocates" become more ridiculous every day.

    >
    > From what I have read, the jury convicted because they didn't think
    > Reiser behaved like he should have... apparently they thought he should
    > have displayed grief for a woman he evidently hated and he thought was
    > quite alive in Europe.


    What a RIOT!
    If it wasn't for that poor lady getting killed this would be humerous.

    Sounds like Hans Reiser is one strange duck.

    Maybe they will let him use his jailhouse Windows machine to post to COLA?

    He will certainly fit right in with the Linuxl loons here!



    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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  4. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Moshe Goldfarb is flatfish (in real life Gary Stewart)

    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/...arb-troll.html
    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ish-troll.html
    Traits:

    * Nym shifting (see below)
    * Self confessed thief and proud of it
    * Homophobic
    * Racist
    * Habitual liar
    * Frequently cross posts replies to other non-Linux related newsgroups
    * Frequently cross posts articles originally not posted to COLA

  5. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    On 2008-05-01, Rick wrote:
    > On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/
    >>> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree
    >>>>> murder, a member of the jury said today."
    >>>>
    >>>> ****in unreal.
    >>>>
    >>>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had
    >>>> a ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>>> missing.
    >>>>
    >>>> only in america.
    >>>
    >>> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,

    >>
    >> But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    >> doubt ...
    >>
    >>> he's been convicted of murdering a woman who, for all anyone knows, is
    >>> shacking up somewhere happy as a clam. Is that about right?

    >>
    >> A woman? His wife. You know full well. And this woman disappears leaving


    Ex-wife.

    >> her two kids? And at the same time she vanishes he removes a car seat


    People do this too... "just disappearing".

    [deletia]
    > "Shannon Cavness, a seven-year veteran in the Oakland police crime lab
    > and a criminal evidence expert, testified a small amount of blood found
    > on a sleeping"


    Well, the million dollar question is "how much".

    If we're going with the idea of a bloodied body then the amount
    of blood should be unmistakable and fit whatever version of events
    that the prosecution has cooked up for the crime.

    >
    > .. and you do know she had a relationship with a sadist who had a violent
    > police record?
    >
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>> If so, this is a frightening state of affairs.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> The "advocates" become more ridiculous every day.

    >
    > From what I have read, the jury convicted because they didn't think
    > Reiser behaved like he should have... apparently they thought he should
    > have displayed grief for a woman he evidently hated and he thought was
    > quite alive in Europe.
    >



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  6. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    JEDIDIAH writes:

    > On 2008-05-01, Rick wrote:
    >> On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:12:38 +0200, Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Kelsey Bjarnason writes:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:19:26 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Ezekiel wrote:
    >>>>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../a/2008/04/29/
    >>>> BAKU10DLNG.DTL&tsp=1
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Computer programmer Hans Reiser was arrogant while testifying in his
    >>>>>> murder trial and never showed any compassion for his estranged wife,
    >>>>>> one of many factors that led to his conviction on first-degree
    >>>>>> murder, a member of the jury said today."
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ****in unreal.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> and why should he "show compassion" for her? for all we know they had
    >>>>> a ****ty marriage. she still hasn't been proven anything other than
    >>>>> missing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> only in america.
    >>>>
    >>>> I haven't been following this case, but if I'm reading you correctly,
    >>>
    >>> But that won't stop the amazing Kelsey from procrastinating about it no
    >>> doubt ...
    >>>
    >>>> he's been convicted of murdering a woman who, for all anyone knows, is
    >>>> shacking up somewhere happy as a clam. Is that about right?
    >>>
    >>> A woman? His wife. You know full well. And this woman disappears leaving

    >
    > Ex-wife.


    Wrong. His wife.

  7. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    JEDIDIAH wrote:
    > >> her two kids? And at the same time she vanishes he removes a car seat

    >
    > People do this too... "just disappearing".


    How often do people just disappear right around the time they leave
    blood in the car of the most likely suspect, and leave blood in his
    house?

    How often after someone just disappears, but before the disappearance is
    known, does that most likely suspect to pick up the kids at school, when
    it was her turn?

    How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    hide his car so police won't be able to search it?

    How often does said suspect try to lose police that are following him?
    If someone I knew disappeared and I knew I was a suspect, I'd welcome
    police surveillance, so that if I'm tried, my attorney could call the
    cops and have them testify that they had me under *constant* watch, and
    did not observe me do anything suspicious.

    It is easy to explain away any individual bit of evidence against
    Reiser. The problem is that there are a dozen or two such things, all
    indicating guilt. Taken together, it is a pretty overwhelming case.



    --
    --Tim Smith

  8. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 18:14:12 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>>> her two kids? And at the same time she vanishes he removes a car seat

    >>
    >> People do this too... "just disappearing".

    >
    > How often do people just disappear right around the time they leave
    > blood in the car of the most likely suspect, and leave blood in his
    > house?
    >
    > How often after someone just disappears, but before the disappearance is
    > known, does that most likely suspect to pick up the kids at school, when
    > it was her turn?
    >
    > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >
    > How often does said suspect try to lose police that are following him?
    > If someone I knew disappeared and I knew I was a suspect, I'd welcome
    > police surveillance, so that if I'm tried, my attorney could call the
    > cops and have them testify that they had me under *constant* watch, and
    > did not observe me do anything suspicious.
    >
    > It is easy to explain away any individual bit of evidence against
    > Reiser. The problem is that there are a dozen or two such things, all
    > indicating guilt. Taken together, it is a pretty overwhelming case.


    That's exactly the point.
    Each thing by itself can probably be explained away, however when you add
    all these little "events" together and look at the entire picture, it's a
    slam dunk.

    It's the same thing with Schestowitz.
    Yea, maybe his posting here is a little enthusiastic and maybe he is just a
    fanboi, if all you consider is COLA.

    Now put all the other stuff concerning Roy Schestowitz into the equation
    and there is no way anyone can not reach the conclusion that he is being
    compensated to post here.


    As for OJ Simpson, which others brought up, the guy was guilty as all hell
    but several factors played into the unjust, although totally legal,
    verdict.

    The most important of which was:

    The jurors were morons.

    A&E (I think?) aired a 1 hour program on the trial a couple of weeks ago
    where they interviewed some, not all, but some, of the jurors and it was
    obvious that the collective IQ of this bunch was well below average.

    These people were idiots and I think 8 months sitting in that court day
    after day turned whatever brains they might have had to complete jelly.

    One juror actually said that "lot's of people have type B blood, so what
    makes the police believe it was OJ and not someone else?"

    (I am using Type B as an example)

    This juror totally ignored the DNA evidence and obviously did not have the
    intelligence to differentiate from blood types and DNA.

    Biggie.....


    2. Reasonable doubt.....Two words that mean a lot... Especially with a jury
    loaded with idiots. I watched almost the entire trial and it was plainly
    obvious that OJ did it. The police are not exactly the sharpest tools in
    the drawer either and for them to concoct a frame OJ scenario was way
    beyond the mental capacity of most of the LA Police Dept...

    .....and so forth....

    Morons, like the Linux loons in COLA, often try and explain away things
    that don't fit their particular views.
    Generally they end up being exposed for their idiocy, sooner or later.



    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  9. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Moshe Goldfarb is flatfish (in real life Gary Stewart)

    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/...arb-troll.html
    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ish-troll.html
    Traits:

    * Nym shifting (see below)
    * Self confessed thief and proud of it
    * Homophobic
    * Racist
    * Habitual liar
    * Frequently cross posts replies to other non-Linux related newsgroups
    * Frequently cross posts articles originally not posted to COLA

  10. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    In article ,
    Rick wrote:
    > > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    > > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?

    >
    > Is that what Reiser did?


    Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    --
    --Tim Smith

  11. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    Hadron wrote:
    > Tim Smith writes:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >>>> hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>> Is that what Reiser did?

    >> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >
    > Oh my god. Rick is joining in on the "He was framed" route - is there
    > anything these "works for me" advocates will hear that is negative about
    > Linux or one of its main "personalities" without denying it?


    Oh my god. Hadron is a complete an utter ass that jumps to every base
    less "conclusion" he sees.

    --
    Rick

  12. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    chrisv wrote:
    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >>>> hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>> Is that what Reiser did?

    >> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >
    > Yeah, I don't "get" the defense of this guy in here. He had a fair
    > trial, and was convicted, yet some in here think they know more about
    > it than the people who were in the jury box hearing all the evidence.
    >


    I don't claim I know more than the jury that heard the evidence. MY
    present bliefs are based on the statements made by jurors after the
    trial. To me, they seem to say they convicted because the guy wasn't
    mourning a women he clearly, at best, disliked.

    --
    Rick

  13. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    Tim Smith wrote:
    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >>>>> How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>>>> to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>> Is that what Reiser did?
    >>> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >> He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    >
    > Wow. I'm speechless.
    >

    Apparently he said he was trying to hide his car. Apparently you believe
    this because he testified to it. He said he did not kill his wife. You
    don't believe this because he testified to it.

    --
    Rick

  14. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSource fallout begins.

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:18:19 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >> > to hide his car so police won't be able to search it?

    >>
    >> Is that what Reiser did?

    >
    > Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    > find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    > to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    > speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).


    He also testified he did not kill his wife.

    --
    Rick

  15. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Ruben wrote:
    > On Thu, 01 May 2008 09:57:04 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >
    >> Sure we have.

    >
    > Sure we have what? You have a real name or an anti-semetic bend?
    > I wonder if your the guy who stabbed Teddy Van Gough?


    Now where the HELL did that come from?
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  16. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Tim Smith writes:

    > In article ,
    > Rick wrote:
    >> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >> > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?

    >>
    >> Is that what Reiser did?

    >
    > Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    > find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    > to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    > speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).


    Oh my god. Rick is joining in on the "He was framed" route - is there
    anything these "works for me" advocates will hear that is negative about
    Linux or one of its main "personalities" without denying it?

  17. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.


    "Hadron" wrote in message
    news:fvetih$ppb$4@registered.motzarella.org...
    > Tim Smith writes:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try
    >>> > to
    >>> > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>
    >>> Is that what Reiser did?

    >>
    >> Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >> find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >> to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >> speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >


    > Oh my god. Rick is joining in on the "He was framed" route -


    It's just a matter of time before the Roy Schestowitz liar posts info from
    a reliable anonymous source of how the Bill Gates Foundation used
    operatives to frame Reiser for the murder.


    > is there anything these "works for me" advocates will hear
    > that is negative about Linux or one of its main "personalities"
    > without denying it?


    Hilarious how all 12 members of the jury got it wrong and the judge also
    got it wrong. But the COLA "advocates", sitting behind their little
    computer with the tux sticker, they are the ones who really understand the
    case. Linux users show that they are a bunch of self-absorbed blowhards.


    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  18. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    Tim Smith wrote:

    > Rick wrote:
    >> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >> > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?

    >>
    >> Is that what Reiser did?

    >
    >Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).


    Yeah, I don't "get" the defense of this guy in here. He had a fair
    trial, and was convicted, yet some in here think they know more about
    it than the people who were in the jury box hearing all the evidence.


  19. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. Open Source fallout begins.

    chrisv writes:

    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> Rick wrote:
    >>> > How often does the most likely suspect after such a disappearance try to
    >>> > hide his car so police won't be able to search it?
    >>>
    >>> Is that what Reiser did?

    >>
    >>Yes. The police had a warrant to search the car, and were trying to
    >>find it. Reiser went looking for storage lockers 50 miles away to try
    >>to find a place to hide the car from the police. (This is not
    >>speculation--Reiser testified to this at the trial).

    >
    > Yeah, I don't "get" the defense of this guy in here. He had a fair
    > trial, and was convicted, yet some in here think they know more about
    > it than the people who were in the jury box hearing all the evidence.
    >


    He's a Linux contributor. Therefore an "untouchable". It's the same as
    saying Linux apps are superior to the Windows ones they
    copied. Invariably they are not.

    --
    < sam> /.ing an issue is like asking an infinite number of monkeys for
    advice
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  20. Re: NEWS - Hans Reiser, Found GUILTY of first degree murder. OpenSourcefallout begins.


    Rick wrote:
    [...]
    > He also testified he did not kill his wife.


    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...d-guilty-first

    ------
    After the prosecution rested its case on February 14, Reiser insisted on
    taking the stand in his own defence, against his attorney's firm advice.
    He began his testimony on March 3 and spent 11 days on the witness
    stand. He attempted to present a "geek defense" to the jury by
    portraying himself as extremely logical and therefore socially inept and
    awkward.

    As a defence strategy, Reiser's chosen tack required him to act
    obnoxiously, thus presenting himself to the jury as a singularly
    unsympathetic defendant.

    In its deliberations, the jury was faced with the choice of either
    believing Reiser's convoluted explanations of his odd behaviour after
    his wife disappeared or, more simply, concluding that he was lying.

    By taking the witness stand in his own defence, Reiser lifted the
    prosecution's burden of proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and
    placed that burden of believability on his own shoulders instead. It was
    maybe an arrogant move.

    Given the alternatives of finding Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter, or finding him not
    guilty entirely, the jury found Reiser guilty of first degree murder,
    the harshest judgement.
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    regards,
    alexander.

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