.... no, it doesn't.

--
Rick

On Apr 27, 10:53 pm, "DFS" wrote:


Y'know, instead of posting other people's complaints, which you have
obviously found the time to hunt round Google for, why not actually
install Linux yourself, repeat these so-called problems on your own,
then go moan at the developers instead of polluting this so-called
advocacy group with your drivel? I mean, nothing prints to a printer
after so long? Has the guy tried changing out the inks? That's step 1
in troubleshooting printer issues, and I've seen this from so-called
experts who can't figure out why their printer suddenly misses
colours. How about printing the followups if you insist on this type
of post? Or even posting back to the forums you've obviously spent so
much time on with workable solutions?

"DFS" writes:

> Like a rented mule that hasn't been fed, Linux/OSS just stops responding:
>
>
> ml2mst: "I've been working with SUSE since 1998, but for some mysterious
> reason, it simply stopped working a couple of months ago."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....78b83a1137b1f5
>

Hadron today : m4a files suddenly stopped playing in Amarok. No idea why.

Rick wrote:

>
> ... no, it doesn't.

Ahem.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:53:29 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Like a rented mule that hasn't been fed, Linux/OSS just stops
> responding:
>
>
> ml2mst: "I've been working with SUSE since 1998, but for some mysterious
> reason, it simply stopped working a couple of months ago."
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....browse_thread/
> thread/60c783924eb4f472/e578b83a1137b1f5?
>hl=en&lnk=st&q=#e578b83a1137b1f5



Is there some point to this? Google for the same thing in Windows and
you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped working"
complaints on thousands of forums.

So what?

Joe User wrote:

> Is there some point to this? Google for the same thing in Windows and
> you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped working"
> complaints on thousands of forums.

Nope. I'll let you prove it to yourself.



> So what?

So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks up,
hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher rate than
Windows.

DFS wrote:
> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks up,
> hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher rate than
> Windows.

Never has for me
(cue the ooo, look, another "works for me" argument)

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Joe User wrote:

> Is there some point to this? Â*Google for the same thing in Windows and
> you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped working"
> complaints on thousands of forums.
>
> So what?

His point is to get the anti-Linux title displayed over and over and over.
Change the title when replying to WinTrolls, otherwise your doing their
work for them. They don't care what's in the body of the message.

Tell a lie long enough and people begin to believe it.

--
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"There's a story there...somewhere"

Andrew Halliwell wrote:

> Never has for me
> (cue the ooo, look, another "works for me" argument)

Ahem.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"

DFS wrote:

> Joe User wrote:
>
>> Is there some point to this? Google for the same thing in Windows and
>> you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped working"
>> complaints on thousands of forums.
>
> Nope. I'll let you prove it to yourself.
>
>
>
>> So what?
>
> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks up,
> hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher rate than
> Windows.


Only on unpredictable and unstable hardware. In fact, Linux will run on crap
hardware, where Window will hopelessly fail and miserably too...

In stead of posting anecdotal evidence as fact, why aren't you posting
findings that YOU have experienced? Oh, sorry... you're a windwoes
weeney... I forgot.



--

Jerry McBride (jmcbride@mail-on.us)

In article ,
Jerry McBride wrote:
> In stead of posting anecdotal evidence as fact, why aren't you posting
> findings that YOU have experienced? Oh, sorry... you're a windwoes
> weeney... I forgot.

Interesting that you don't raise this issue when people post about
Windows problems they have not personally experienced. Nice double
standard.


--
--Tim Smith

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:46:40 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

> In article ,
> Jerry McBride wrote:
>> In stead of posting anecdotal evidence as fact, why aren't you posting
>> findings that YOU have experienced? Oh, sorry... you're a windwoes
>> weeney... I forgot.
>
> Interesting that you don't raise this issue when people post about
> Windows problems they have not personally experienced. Nice double
> standard.

This is message 97 since april 1

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I'm just forwarning you that legal action will be taken if you daage the
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Just in case anyone believes that these hired trolls on harmless
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and frankly, there is not much that they wouldn't do to prevent the
disclosure of their efforts to destroy this as a valid communications
edium for GNU and Linux advocacy.

My lawyers are recommending that a listing of known paid trolling handles
be accumulated and anyone with such infomration should post it on this
service, and that all further communiques should be ended with these
trolls until the legal affairs department of NYLXS can determine the
nature and exact locations of the attacks related to this usenet group.

I'll be talking wiith the NYLXS board until then. Never the less, all
efforts should be made to not engage the suspected and known trolls
on this board since they are suspected of illegal actions which put users
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Quoting Andrew Halliwell who, on Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:07:25 +0100, posted:

> DFS wrote:
>> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks up,
>> hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher rate than
>> Windows.
>
> Never has for me
> (cue the ooo, look, another "works for me" argument)

My distros don't lock up either, 32bit or 64bit.
(Cue Quack & Flatfarce saying "another me too post")

As for "unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. Lock ups,
hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working" you should hear what my
other-half has to say about the problems she has to deal with, with eX-Pee
& Fista! "Clustere****" is one of the more polite descriptions!

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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:02:58 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Joe User wrote:
>
>> Is there some point to this? Google for the same thing in Windows and
>> you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped working"
>> complaints on thousands of forums.
>
> Nope. I'll let you prove it to yourself.

I already did. I googled Windows just stopped working and got over 3
million hits. The first page was filled with exactly the sort of things
you posted about Linux.

Anybody with any sense at all would have expected exactly that. Of
*course* people have problems with Windows, Linux, Macs, IBM mainframes,
and anything else more complicated than a horseshoe.

Again I say, so what?

>
>> So what?
>
> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks up,
> hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher rate than
> Windows.

Not in my experience, which is considerable. Compared to Linux, Windows
is a toy. A toy with a wobbly wheel and a missing spring. But it's
always painted with bright colors, if that makes you feel any better.

RonB wrote:

> Change the title when replying to WinTrolls,

That's what weak-minded Linux welfare givers and Linux welfare recipients do
when they can't deny the facts.



> otherwise your doing their work for them. They don't
> care what's in the body of the message.

You're thinking of Spamowitz.



> Tell a lie long enough and people begin to believe it.

Only you are the liar, WRonG.

Ruben wrote:

> Insidently,

insidently = incidentally


> we've noticed an increase in hacking attempt on our servers

Nothing to worry about - Linux is secure (period). Isn't it? We've been
told so many times.


> since we've started to bring heat on you for
> your abuses on this usenet group.

Tim Smith does offer up some good abuse - to practically everyone; he's very
pedantic and likes to catch you making hypocritical posts.

As for real abuse, Spamowitz and several other "advocates" are by far the
biggest abusers of cola. They use this newsgroup to just spew and spew
anti-MS lies and libel that have no relation whatever to Linux.



> I'm just forwarning

forwarning = forewarning

You need some spelling lessons, fella.


> you that legal action will be taken if you daage the
> NYLXS systes in any way. Since I've already been tipped off on who
> your
> employer is, they should also know that they are on the hook and our
> lawyers are working on this as we speak.

pro-bono shysters, eh? We're all very scared.


> Just in case anyone believes that these hired trolls on harmless
> pranksters or a inor anoyance, you should be aware that this is
> actually
> veiwed as a high stakes game by Microsoft and their third party
> affiliates

How would a paranoid weirdo and outsider like you know anything about how MS
views cola? This is nearly as bad as lying, psycho "advocate" Rex Ballard
claiming to know all kinds of specific terms and conditions of MS-OEM
contracts.


> and frankly, there is not much that they wouldn't do to prevent the
> disclosure of their efforts to destroy this as a valid communications
> edium for GNU and Linux advocacy.

Let us know when cola becomes a Linux advocacy group. Since its inception,
it's been used as a place for anti-MS Linux weenies to vent their ignorance
and irrational hatred of MS. You windbags also use the entirety of the
Internet to post your anti-MS stupidity. Everywhere you find a website
article about MS doing something even mildly controversial, you find Linux
assholes slinging their petulant viciousness in the comments.


> My lawyers are recommending that a listing of known paid trolling
> handles be accumulated

'Spamowitz' should be your entire list.



> and anyone with such infomration should post it on this
> service, and that all further communiques should be ended with these
> trolls

But then cola becomes an ass-kissing-fest of "me too" posts, and even the
"advocates" can't stand too much of that.



> until the legal affairs department of NYLXS can determine the
> nature and exact locations of the attacks related to this usenet
> group.

Can't speak for anyone else, but the nature of my posts? Hard to say: they
run the gamut from argumentative to flame bait to Linux advocacy on the rare
occasion.

They originate from my home office in Lawrenceville, GA, a smallish
hick-town NE of Atlanta.



> I'll be talking wiith the NYLXS board until then.

Do you guys meet in the street and feed the pigeons while setting NYLXS
"strategy"?

http://www.nylxs.com/images/dmitry_01.jpg




> Never the less, all
> efforts should be made to not engage the suspected and known trolls
> on this board since they are suspected of illegal actions which put
> users at risk.

You may have a point: it probably should be illegal to troll around cola
pretending to "advocate" a sorry system like Linux/OSS when you actually
make a living with Windows.

You go get 'em Ruben!

Jerry McBride wrote:

> In stead of posting anecdotal evidence as fact, why aren't you posting
> findings that YOU have experienced?

I've done that many times. In most cases, I was called a liar or stupid or
told 'it works for me'.


> Oh, sorry... you're a windwoes weeney... I forgot.

Next time use kcron to set a reminder.

Andrew Halliwell wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks
>> up, hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher
>> rate than Windows.
>
> Never has for me
> (cue the ooo, look, another "works for me" argument)

Of course it (or some apps) has. You're lying, Andrew.

Joe User wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:02:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Joe User wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some point to this? Google for the same thing in Windows
>>> and you'll find a hundred times as many "Windows just stopped
>>> working" complaints on thousands of forums.
>>
>> Nope. I'll let you prove it to yourself.
>
> I already did. I googled Windows just stopped working and got over 3
> million hits.


Results 1 - 10 of about 251,000 for Linux just quit working
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,180,000 for Linux just stopped working.
Results 1 - 10 of about 220,000 for Linux suddenly quit working.
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,740,000 for Linux simply quit working.
Total 3,391,000

Results 1 - 10 of about 534,000 for Windows just quit working
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,110,000 for Windows just stopped working
Results 1 - 10 of about 499,000 for Windows suddenly quit working.
Results 1 - 10 of about 236,000 for Windows simply quit working
Total 3,379,000


Unbelievable. With an installed base approx 1/90th of Windows, Linux
generates more complaints about its refusal to do its job.



> The first page was filled with exactly the sort of things you posted about
> Linux.

No kidding?



> Anybody with any sense at all would have expected exactly that. Of
> *course* people have problems with Windows, Linux, Macs, IBM
> mainframes, and anything else more complicated than a horseshoe.

So Linux doesn't "just work"? I'm getting confused now.



>> So Linux is unpredictable, unstable, and unprofessional. It locks
>> up, hangs, freezes and suddenly quits working at a far, far higher
>> rate than Windows.
>
> Not in my experience, which is considerable.

The considerable experiences of many more people than you are very
different.

Hourly reboots: "...it varies in its frequency, rebooting about once an hour
roughly but can be just a few
minutes..." #41 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412125&page=5




> Compared to Linux, Windows is a toy.

"I get random system freezes, but found it was because of my network cable.
Whenever it came loose and lost its connection the system would crash."
#530 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412125&page=53