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  1. Linux 2020

    One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    just bought and plugged in.

    There will be no file format issues of the past like in 2007 when
    you connect a webcam and it needs to hunt for a driver and then
    left you high and dry with an icon on the desktop leaving you to
    hunt for an application that can use that icon.

    Today all your apps like open office 2020 allows video to be
    directly embedded into a video diary document and allowed to
    be opened by anyone anywhere in the world.

    Well, except the 0.6% die hard clippy worshippers.
    They will be forced to buy the drivers and install it
    alongside their malware thats competing with your life
    support system's battery resources to plug you one
    last message before you snuff it.


  2. Re: Linux 2020

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7

    wrote
    on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:19:34 GMT
    :
    > One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    > into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    > to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    > just bought and plugged in.


    Windows already has this capability; it's called ActiveX/Auto Update.

    >
    > There will be no file format issues of the past like in 2007 when
    > you connect a webcam and it needs to hunt for a driver and then
    > left you high and dry with an icon on the desktop leaving you to
    > hunt for an application that can use that icon.
    >
    > Today all your apps like open office 2020 allows video to be
    > directly embedded into a video diary document and allowed to
    > be opened by anyone anywhere in the world.


    Word already has this capability, courtesy of OLE and/or ActiveX.

    >
    > Well, except the 0.6% die hard clippy worshippers.
    > They will be forced to buy the drivers and install it
    > alongside their malware thats competing with your life
    > support system's battery resources to plug you one
    > last message before you snuff it.
    >



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  3. Re: Linux 2020

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:35:03 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7
    >
    > wrote
    >on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:19:34 GMT
    >:
    >> One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    >> into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    >> to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    >> just bought and plugged in.


    >Windows already has this capability; it's called ActiveX/Auto Update.


    Oh, yeah. That lovely ability for anybody in the world to infect your
    computer.

  4. Re: Linux 2020

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:46:19 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote:
    >On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:35:03 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7
    >>
    >> wrote
    >>on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:19:34 GMT
    >>:
    >>> One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    >>> into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    >>> to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    >>> just bought and plugged in.


    >>Windows already has this capability; it's called ActiveX/Auto Update.


    >Oh, yeah. That lovely ability for anybody in the world to infect your
    >computer.


    Not only has microsoft never understood the difference between a LAN and
    a WAN, thinking that the internet is one big trusty family, but microsoft has
    never understood the difference between code and data. The idea of passing
    along executable code with a document is an insane notion. Microsoft isn't
    satisfied with just some macros to do basic text updating operations, but
    bring the ability for any document or even any picture to replace any file
    on a system.

    It's beyond bizzare when one gets a powerpoint presentation as an email, and
    windows has a warning that opening it may be a hazardous operation. It's just
    a bunch of stupid slides; why should it have to have the ability to affect
    the OS.

    Oh yeah. Microsoft has never understood the difference between a user and
    an administrator either.

    Microsoft, the company that made email dangerous.

  5. Re: Linux 2020

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, AZ Nomad

    wrote
    on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:46:19 -0500
    :
    > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:35:03 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7
    >>
    >> wrote
    >>on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:19:34 GMT
    >>:
    >>> One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    >>> into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    >>> to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    >>> just bought and plugged in.

    >
    >>Windows already has this capability; it's called ActiveX/Auto Update.

    >
    > Oh, yeah. That lovely ability for anybody in the world to infect your
    > computer.


    Shhh. You'll give it all away and leave Microsoft users
    with no incentives to wait for Windows 7.... ;-)

    In any event, what is an application anyway? It's a series
    of code instructions that allows the microprocessor to
    communicate with the user and a series of other components
    such as disk drives and the network. The instructions are
    transmitted to a local buss; one can also transmit them
    through a network via various means, the simplest being
    SOAP nowadays (though Java's binary RMI still exists).

    And of course the browser is a big fat standardized client,
    which the application can leverage.

    Makes life interesting. ;-)

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  6. Re: Linux 2020

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, AZ Nomad

    wrote
    on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:27:16 -0500
    :
    > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:46:19 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:35:03 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7
    >>>
    >>> wrote
    >>>on Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:19:34 GMT
    >>>:
    >>>> One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    >>>> into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    >>>> to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    >>>> just bought and plugged in.

    >
    >>>Windows already has this capability; it's called ActiveX/Auto Update.

    >
    >>Oh, yeah. That lovely ability for anybody in the world to infect your
    >>computer.

    >
    > Not only has microsoft never understood the difference
    > between a LAN and a WAN, thinking that the internet is
    > one big trusty family, but microsoft has never understood
    > the difference between code and data. The idea of passing
    > along executable code with a document is an insane notion.
    > Microsoft isn't satisfied with just some macros to do basic
    > text updating operations, but bring the ability for any
    > document or even any picture to replace any file on a system.
    >
    > It's beyond bizzare when one gets a powerpoint presentation
    > as an email, and windows has a warning that opening it may
    > be a hazardous operation. It's just a bunch of stupid slides;
    > why should it have to have the ability to affect the OS.
    >
    > Oh yeah. Microsoft has never understood the difference
    > between a user and an administrator either.
    >
    > Microsoft, the company that made email dangerous.


    To be extremely pedantic, code is data (read by the
    microprocessor) and data can be code (e.g., the output of
    a compiler or linker); one can also include such things
    as shell scripts (where the reader is the shell, usually
    /bin/bash, and various automated script generators can be
    easily written; the most prevalent one is probably 'shar').
    Of course Unix-style OSes/graphic environments seem to not
    have nearly as much of a problem keeping straight who is
    executing what code when, as a certain software vendor.

    As for documents containing code -- I could see some
    applications where one might think it advantageous but it's
    probably easier to split the problem into data and editor.
    The code would sit in the editor, and the document be
    pure (or as pure as data can be, given the above) data.
    The editor would also construct a window into a copy of
    the document data, implementing what has come to be the
    Model-View-Control paradigm in software construction.

    Model: document
    View: window opened by the editor
    Control: the editor's executable code, plus maybe the editor's
    dialog boxes hooked thereinto

    Personally, I think Microsoft got a little lazy. It's very
    convenient to put scripting commands in a document -- and
    also of course very dangerous, if not properly sandboxed.

    OpenOffice is not immune, it turns out, to this allure;
    BadBunny is the love child thereof. However, he's a very
    late latecomer to this entire mess.

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  7. Re: Linux 2020

    * 7 peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > One thing I can look forward to Linux 2020 is applications streaming
    > into your PC because the vendors have worked with the distro makers
    > to identify all the software products that support the hardware you have
    > just bought and plugged in.
    >
    > There will be no file format issues of the past like in 2007 when
    > you connect a webcam and it needs to hunt for a driver and then
    > left you high and dry with an icon on the desktop leaving you to
    > hunt for an application that can use that icon.


    My god, man! Don't give Microsoft any more innovative ideas!

    > Well, except the 0.6% die hard clippy worshippers.
    > They will be forced to buy the drivers and install it
    > alongside their malware thats competing with your life
    > support system's battery resources to plug you one
    > last message before you snuff it.


    You funny!

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  8. Re: Linux 2020

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:54:45 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

    >To be extremely pedantic, code is data (read by the
    >microprocessor) and data can be code (e.g., the output of
    >a compiler or linker); one can also include such things
    >as shell scripts (where the reader is the shell, usually
    >/bin/bash, and various automated script generators can be


    Yes, but code isn't data. Data can arrive from a foreign site, be
    displayed, stored, etc. without modifying your computer's basic behavior.
    Code can be stored on the processor in readonly pages to prevent accidental
    overwriting, and code can be stored in the file system in protected areas
    where they are mostly static with very tight controls over who can modify it
    or even access it.


    Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as seemingly
    benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.


  9. Re: Linux 2020

    AZ Nomad wrote:

    > Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    > seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.


    Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?

    http://www.linux.com/articles/53998







  10. Re: Linux 2020

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS

    wrote
    on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    :
    > AZ Nomad wrote:
    >
    >> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.

    >
    > Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >
    > http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >


    Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    :-P



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  11. Re: Linux 2020

    * The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >
    > wrote
    > on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    > :
    >> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>
    >>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.

    >>
    >> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>
    >> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998

    >
    > Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    > Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.


    I'm wondering why dopey is posting security advisories from 2 years ago.

    Especially when they surfaced and were fixed without a ripple in the IT
    ecosystem.

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    work don't lay a solid foundation, and then they're not involved in the
    program in the future.
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  12. Re: Linux 2020

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >AZ Nomad wrote:


    >> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.


    >Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?


    >http://www.linux.com/articles/53998



    You you ever tire of being so ****ing clueless?

    Every single point I made went clear over your head. You have
    the attention span of a four year old.
    1) a slide show program shouldn't be exeucuting code from a foreign site. 2) a
    slide show program shouldn't be run as an administrator/root and have the
    ability to wipe out the system.

    Wether linux has bugs is irrelevent. They can't do the damage possible as with a
    a windows system running foreign code instead of just displaying data and
    such a complex program being run as an admin with all protections
    disabled by default.

  13. Re: Linux 2020

    On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >
    > wrote
    > on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >:
    >> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>
    >>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.

    >>
    >> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>
    >> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>

    >
    > Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    > Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.


    Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    whitelist only those sites that you trust?

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  14. Re: Linux 2020

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>
    >> wrote
    >> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>:
    >>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>
    >>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>

    >>
    >> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.


    > Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >whitelist only those sites that you trust?


    Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user be
    an administrator?

    Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.

  15. Re: Linux 2020


    "AZ Nomad" wrote in message
    news:slrng0s1vp.i40.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
    > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine
    >>wrote:
    >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>>
    >>> wrote
    >>> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>>:
    >>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >>> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    >
    >> Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >>whitelist only those sites that you trust?

    >
    > Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user be
    > an administrator?
    >


    > Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.


    You mean like this?

    http://www.mozilla.org/security/anno...sa2008-14.html

    Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2008-14
    Title: JavaScript privilege escalation and arbitrary code execution
    Impact: Critical
    Announced: March 25, 2008
    Reporter: moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback
    Products: Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey

    Fixed in: Firefox 2.0.0.13
    Thunderbird 2.0.0.14
    SeaMonkey 1.1.9

    Description
    Mozilla contributors moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, and Johnny Stenback
    reported a series of vulnerabilities which allow scripts from page content
    to run with elevated privileges. moz_bug_r_a4 demonstrated additional
    variants of MFSA 2007-25 and MFSA2007-35 (arbitrary code execution through
    XPCNativeWrapper pollution). Additional vulnerabilities reported separately
    by Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback, and moz_bug_r_a4 showed that the browser
    could be forced to run JavaScript code using the wrong principal leading to
    universal XSS and arbitrary code execution.

    Thunderbird shares the browser engine with Firefox and could be vulnerable
    if JavaScript were to be enabled in mail. This is not the default setting
    and we strongly discourage users from running JavaScript in mail.

    Workaround
    Disable JavaScript until a version containing these fixes can be installed.




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  16. Re: Linux 2020

    On 2008-04-22, AZ Nomad wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>>
    >>> wrote
    >>> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>>:
    >>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >>> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    >
    >> Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >>whitelist only those sites that you trust?

    >
    > Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user be
    > an administrator?
    >
    > Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.


    I don't know about you but I am attached to my data.

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  17. Re: Linux 2020

    On 2008-04-22, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    > "AZ Nomad" wrote in message
    > news:slrng0s1vp.i40.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
    >> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>>On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine
    >>>wrote:
    >>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>>>
    >>>> wrote
    >>>> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>>>:
    >>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >>>> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    >>
    >>> Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >>>whitelist only those sites that you trust?

    >>
    >> Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user be
    >> an administrator?
    >>

    >
    >> Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.

    >
    > You mean like this?


    [deletia]

    >
    > Workaround
    > Disable JavaScript until a version containing these fixes can be installed.


    ....or just install the noscript extension and and cease doing the
    meatspace equivalent of going to the seediest part of town and
    licking the sidewalk...

    Thanks to Microsoft, the common man has gotten used to doing precisely this.

    Tell them to stop and they will look at you like you want to throw their
    baby out the window.


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  18. Re: Linux 2020

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:43:35 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

    >"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
    >news:slrng0s1vp.i40.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
    >> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>>On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine
    >>>wrote:
    >>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>>>
    >>>> wrote
    >>>> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>>>:
    >>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >>>> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    >>
    >>> Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >>>whitelist only those sites that you trust?

    >>
    >> Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user be
    >> an administrator?
    >>


    >> Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.


    >You mean like this?


    >http://www.mozilla.org/security/anno...sa2008-14.html


    >Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2008-14
    >Title: JavaScript privilege escalation and arbitrary code execution
    >Impact: Critical
    >Announced: March 25, 2008
    >Reporter: moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback
    >Products: Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey


    >Fixed in: Firefox 2.0.0.13
    > Thunderbird 2.0.0.14
    > SeaMonkey 1.1.9


    >Description
    >Mozilla contributors moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, and Johnny Stenback
    >reported a series of vulnerabilities which allow scripts from page content
    >to run with elevated privileges. moz_bug_r_a4 demonstrated additional
    >variants of MFSA 2007-25 and MFSA2007-35 (arbitrary code execution through
    >XPCNativeWrapper pollution). Additional vulnerabilities reported separately
    >by Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback, and moz_bug_r_a4 showed that the browser
    >could be forced to run JavaScript code using the wrong principal leading to
    >universal XSS and arbitrary code execution.


    >Thunderbird shares the browser engine with Firefox and could be vulnerable
    >if JavaScript were to be enabled in mail. This is not the default setting
    >and we strongly discourage users from running JavaScript in mail.


    >Workaround
    >Disable JavaScript until a version containing these fixes can be installed.


    Then you should be able to name somebody using that horrible exploit.

  19. Re: Linux 2020

    Linonut wrote:

    > * The Ghost In The Machine peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >
    >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>
    >> wrote
    >> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >> :
    >>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>
    >>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998

    >>
    >> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.


    *Ahem* This week TWO years ago.

    >> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.

    >
    > I'm wondering why dopey is posting security advisories from 2 years ago.


    It's called "straw clutching". Like a drowning man who can't swim, & who
    will attempt to grab any floating object.
    A definition of "straw clutching":
    If someone is in serious trouble and tries anything to help them, even
    though their chances of success are probably nil, they are clutching at
    straws.

    > Especially when they surfaced and were fixed without a ripple in the IT
    > ecosystem.


    Yeah well, DooFu$ wouldn't bother checking that. He's too busy learning how
    to swim.

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  20. Re: Linux 2020


    "AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:43:35 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >>"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
    >>news:slrng0s1vp.i40.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
    >>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:05:50 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
    >>>>On 2008-04-22, The Ghost In The Machine
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
    >>>>>
    >>>>> wrote
    >>>>> on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0400
    >>>>>:
    >>>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Microsoft failure to understand difference means that something as
    >>>>>>> seemingly benign as a slide show can wipe out your system. Insane.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Don't you nutcases ever get sick of being wrong and stupid?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.linux.com/articles/53998
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Oops, yep, Linux has the absolute worst security record this week.
    >>>>> Guess we should all just go to Vista Ultimate and shut up.
    >>>
    >>>> Why? Does it allow you to turn off javascript by default and
    >>>>whitelist only those sites that you trust?
    >>>
    >>> Has vista embraced 60's technology and stopped having the default user
    >>> be
    >>> an administrator?
    >>>

    >
    >>> Javascript is harmless when you're not running as root/admin.

    >
    >>You mean like this?

    >
    >>http://www.mozilla.org/security/anno...sa2008-14.html

    >
    >>Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2008-14
    >>Title: JavaScript privilege escalation and arbitrary code execution
    >>Impact: Critical
    >>Announced: March 25, 2008
    >>Reporter: moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback
    >>Products: Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey

    >
    >>Fixed in: Firefox 2.0.0.13
    >> Thunderbird 2.0.0.14
    >> SeaMonkey 1.1.9

    >
    >>Description
    >>Mozilla contributors moz_bug_r_a4, Boris Zbarsky, and Johnny Stenback
    >>reported a series of vulnerabilities which allow scripts from page content
    >>to run with elevated privileges. moz_bug_r_a4 demonstrated additional
    >>variants of MFSA 2007-25 and MFSA2007-35 (arbitrary code execution through
    >>XPCNativeWrapper pollution). Additional vulnerabilities reported
    >>separately
    >>by Boris Zbarsky, Johnny Stenback, and moz_bug_r_a4 showed that the
    >>browser
    >>could be forced to run JavaScript code using the wrong principal leading
    >>to
    >>universal XSS and arbitrary code execution.

    >
    >>Thunderbird shares the browser engine with Firefox and could be vulnerable
    >>if JavaScript were to be enabled in mail. This is not the default setting
    >>and we strongly discourage users from running JavaScript in mail.

    >
    >>Workaround
    >>Disable JavaScript until a version containing these fixes can be
    >>installed.

    >
    > Then you should be able to name somebody using that horrible exploit.


    Hung Yun Kim is using that exploit. He probably pwns your computer.

    Are you really that stupid??? Mozilla and several agencies came out with a
    serious security warning about this exploit and your argument is "name
    someone using that exploit" - how pathetic.





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