Doug Mentohl wrote:

>"Remember Denver International? Where they fought the machines for a
>decade, and finally tore them out? Well, this is a lot like that, but
>with a British flavor. And fistfights"

And then a soccer game broke-out. 8)

On 2 Apr, 14:32, chrisv wrote:

> And then a soccer game broke-out. * 8)

Normally they have the riot after the game ..

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:28:18 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:

> "A spokeswoman for airport owner BAA said British Airways ground-
> handling staff were experiencing problems with logging onto the
> system, resulting in delays for arriving passengers, who were left
> waiting for their bags"
>
> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articl...t5-opening.htm
>
> "British Airways has confirmed it was sending thousands of bags to
> Milan to better cope with a massive backlog of luggage caused by
> turmoil at its newly opened terminal at London Heathrow"
>
> "Remember Denver International? Where they fought the machines for a
> decade, and finally tore them out? Well, this is a lot like that, but
> with a British flavor. And fistfights"
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...4-e8b470c6ebbf
>
> Is this an example of 'agile' software ...

Do you have information to suggest that "agile" was used?

Hell, do you have any information to suggest that the software was
developed quickly at all?

No, of course you don't. You're just being a retard.

On 2 Apr, 19:12, Erik Funkenbusch aka amicus_curious wrote:

> Do you have information to suggest that "agile" was used?

> Hell, do you have any information to suggest that the software was developed quickly at all?

Well, I asked the question, do you have any information as to what
software methodology was used ? Here's your chance to blame Linux,
tell us it wasn't Windows ..

> No, of course you don't. *You're just being a retard.- Hide quoted text -

Like, is calling someone 'retard' supposed to impress your
troll.master at MICROS~1 ..

pathetic is what you are ..

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:

> On 2 Apr, 19:12, Erik Funkenbusch aka amicus_curious wrote:
>
>> Do you have information to suggest that "agile" was used?
>
>> Hell, do you have any information to suggest that the software was developed quickly at all?
>
> Well, I asked the question, do you have any information as to what
> software methodology was used ? Here's your chance to blame Linux,
> tell us it wasn't Windows ..

I don't know anything about the project. I don't know what OS or hardware
or anything about it. But then, neither do you apparently.

>> No, of course you don't. *You're just being a retard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Like, is calling someone 'retard' supposed to impress your
> troll.master at MICROS~1 ..
>
> pathetic is what you are ..

No, calling you a retard is simply stating the obvious.

On 3 Apr, 18:17, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:

> do you have any information as to what software methodology was used ..

> I don't know anything about the project ..

Well then **** off out of my thread, you ignorant piece of rat turd ..

On 2 Apr, 14:32, chrisv wrote:

> And then a soccer game broke-out. 8)

"The log on system initially didn't work," a BA spokesperson said.
"There was an issue with that for some reason."

"The high tech baggage system .. Created through 400,000 man hours of
software engineering, it was designed and supplied by Vanderlande
Industries in conjunction with IBM technology and Alstec, who are
operating the system"

http://www.cio.com.au/index.php/id;1...98;fp;2;fpid;1

I figure one of the problems is that there are multiple companies
supplying parts of the system that are supposed to all work together,
except of course, in practice, they don't. A failure in one component
leads to a catastrophic lockup of the whole system. And people expert
in area A don't know squat about area B.

'He blamed the disruption on a number of areas .. "In isolation, they
would not have had the impact they did, but in combination they led to
a level of disruption we never took control of during the day',
cio.com.au article

"The Terminal 5 project involved significantly more players than many
of the baggage handling installations VI had previously managed, notes
Monique Wood" VanderlandeIndustries.pdf article

How difficult is it to get luggage off an aircraft and routed to the
requisite carousel or onto another plane, it's not rocket science.
Another question I would have asked before signing the contract, is
this the first time this system was installed and if not, can we see
it working. I see from VanderlandeIndustries.pdf, it's a first timer.
'Never do anything for the first time' (Douglas Mentohl). Now that's a
lot more usefull than 'there is no silver bullet', are ya listening
Fred Brooks !!!

"Vanderlande Industries Success Story" get it before it
disappears ..

"With the help of Primavera scheduling software, the system was
completed on time and without cost overruns or disruption to the
overall Terminal 5 project"

"Every few months the project's focus changed, Wood notes. For
instance, the emphasis shifted from steelwork and mechanical concerns
to the electrical and testing aspects of the project"

"A Successful Transition to Agile Development"

http://www.primavera.com/newsroom/ar...ile_052005.pdf

Sure sounds like 'agile' methods to me ..

http://www.primavera.com/files/custo...Industries.pdf

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:

> On 3 Apr, 18:17, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:48:58 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>
>> do you have any information as to what software methodology was used ..
>
>> I don't know anything about the project ..
>
> Well then **** off out of my thread, you ignorant piece of rat turd ..

Yet you have no knowledge either. Guess you should **** off out of your
own thread.