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  1. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!


    "OK" wrote in message
    news:qip4v3le2rc14jpdcbv3e5rqg7jap9itrd@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:14:43 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>
    >>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>>
    >>> The future looks bright :-)
    >>>
    >>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista

    >>
    >>Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >>The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >>Market Share.
    >>
    >>So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.
    >>At least you can say Linux is consistent.
    >>
    >>After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop market
    >>share.

    >
    > Yeah, even the Linux Counter is regressing: http://counter.li.org/
    > (141K users, how silly is that?)


    It's taking over the world



  2. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Moshe Goldfarb wrote in
    news:uy2hq7s6xjve.179n07vhmvxqq$.dlg@40tude.net:

    > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >
    >> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>
    >> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>
    >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux


    Or Linux @ 3.8 % from this source:

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

    With Vista @ 7.6%, not 14%

    Of course, you will say these stats mean nothing, because they don't say
    what you want them to say.

  3. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    On 2008-04-01, DanS wrote:
    > Moshe Goldfarb wrote in
    > news:uy2hq7s6xjve.179n07vhmvxqq$.dlg@40tude.net:
    >
    >> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>
    >>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

    >
    > Or Linux @ 3.8 % from this source:
    >
    > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
    >
    > With Vista @ 7.6%, not 14%
    >
    > Of course, you will say these stats mean nothing, because they don't say
    > what you want them to say.


    0.7% on my site algebra.com.

    i

  4. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Hadron wrote:
    > Matt writes:
    >
    >> OK wrote:
    >>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

    >> Here are the numbers from that page right now:
    >> (((((
    >>> Month Linux May, 2007 0.43% June, 2007 0.43%
    >>> July, 2007 0.46% August, 2007 0.47% September, 2007
    >>> 0.49% October, 2007 0.50% November, 2007 0.57% December, 2007
    >>> 0.63% January, 2008 0.64% February, 2008 0.65% March, 2008
    >>> 0.61%

    >> )))))
    >>
    >> Those numbers were changed by markeshare.hitslink.com.
    >>
    >> The January, 2008 Linux number originally appearing on or about Feb 1
    >> was 0.67%.
    >>
    >> Witness this COLA+COMA thread entitled "New Marketshare Numbers - OSX
    >> 7.57% / Linux 0.67%" started by Oxford at 02/01/2008 02:16 PM:
    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....58d5defcc5d761
    >> (((((
    >>> New, true Marketshare Numbers are in... and it appears even the
    >>> iPhone will surpass Linux share in the next 16 months.
    >>>
    >>> Wow! the hugely successful iPhone will totally eclipse the Linux
    >>> installed "user base" in less than 16 months, no wonder Linus has
    >>> given up!
    >>>
    >>> Congrats to people that still want QUALITY in their lives!
    >>>
    >>> ---
    >>>
    >>> As of Feb 1st:
    >>>
    >>> Windows 91.46% Mac 7.57% Linux 0.67%
    >>> iPhone 0.13% Playstation 0.03% SunOS 0.01%
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8
    >>>
    >>> -

    >> )))))
    >>
    >> This is the site always mentioned by Linux deniers because this site
    >> always reports less Linux usage than any other site.
    >>
    >> The discrepancy described above throws into doubt all
    >> data appearing on markeshare.hitslink.com.

    >
    > Yes. But unless you are a dribbling moron like, say, chrisv, the numbers
    > give enough of an indication about relative install base. No one claims
    > they are 100% correct. It's an indicator. And a pretty reliable one at
    > that. It certainly correlates strongly with what I see in the wild.


    Around March 1, that website changed their reported January Linux number
    from 0.67% to 0.64% with no explanation. They have put all of their
    data in doubt.

  5. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Ignoramus3733 wrote:
    > On 2008-04-01, DanS wrote:
    >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote in
    >> news:uy2hq7s6xjve.179n07vhmvxqq$.dlg@40tude.net:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux

    >> Or Linux @ 3.8 % from this source:
    >>
    >> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
    >>
    >> With Vista @ 7.6%, not 14%
    >>
    >> Of course, you will say these stats mean nothing, because they don't say
    >> what you want them to say.

    >
    > 0.7% on my site algebra.com.
    >
    > i


    I hope you'll post your Linux numbers regularly.

  6. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    "OK" schreef in bericht
    news:qip4v3le2rc14jpdcbv3e5rqg7jap9itrd@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:14:43 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>
    >>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>>
    >>> The future looks bright :-)
    >>>
    >>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista

    >>
    >>Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >>The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >>Market Share.
    >>
    >>So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.
    >>At least you can say Linux is consistent.
    >>
    >>After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop market
    >>share.

    >
    > Yeah, even the Linux Counter is regressing: http://counter.li.org/
    > (141K users, how silly is that?)



    "Linux users: Twenty-nine million" worldwide
    Seems fair to me, I'm one of them.
    --
    PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/





















  7. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Matt writes:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >> Matt writes:
    >>
    >>> OK wrote:
    >>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>> Here are the numbers from that page right now:
    >>> (((((
    >>>> Month Linux May, 2007 0.43% June, 2007 0.43%
    >>>> July, 2007 0.46% August, 2007 0.47% September, 2007
    >>>> 0.49% October, 2007 0.50% November, 2007 0.57% December, 2007
    >>>> 0.63% January, 2008 0.64% February, 2008 0.65% March, 2008
    >>>> 0.61%
    >>> )))))
    >>>
    >>> Those numbers were changed by markeshare.hitslink.com.
    >>>
    >>> The January, 2008 Linux number originally appearing on or about Feb 1
    >>> was 0.67%.
    >>>
    >>> Witness this COLA+COMA thread entitled "New Marketshare Numbers - OSX
    >>> 7.57% / Linux 0.67%" started by Oxford at 02/01/2008 02:16 PM:
    >>>
    >>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....58d5defcc5d761
    >>> (((((
    >>>> New, true Marketshare Numbers are in... and it appears even the
    >>>> iPhone will surpass Linux share in the next 16 months.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wow! the hugely successful iPhone will totally eclipse the Linux
    >>>> installed "user base" in less than 16 months, no wonder Linus has
    >>>> given up!
    >>>>
    >>>> Congrats to people that still want QUALITY in their lives!
    >>>>
    >>>> ---
    >>>>
    >>>> As of Feb 1st:
    >>>>
    >>>> Windows 91.46% Mac 7.57% Linux 0.67%
    >>>> iPhone 0.13% Playstation 0.03% SunOS 0.01%
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8
    >>>>
    >>>> -
    >>> )))))
    >>>
    >>> This is the site always mentioned by Linux deniers because this site
    >>> always reports less Linux usage than any other site.
    >>>
    >>> The discrepancy described above throws into doubt all
    >>> data appearing on markeshare.hitslink.com.

    >>
    >> Yes. But unless you are a dribbling moron like, say, chrisv, the numbers
    >> give enough of an indication about relative install base. No one claims
    >> they are 100% correct. It's an indicator. And a pretty reliable one at
    >> that. It certainly correlates strongly with what I see in the wild.

    >
    > Around March 1, that website changed their reported January Linux
    > number from 0.67% to 0.64% with no explanation. They have put all of
    > their data in doubt.


    So are you a dribbling moron then Matt? I didn't think so until your
    last post. You think a variation of 0.04% on a 0.65%ish market share
    means something in any way positive for Linux?

    --
    I was attacked by dselect as a small child and have since avoided
    debian.
    -- Andrew Morton

  8. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:15:02 GMT, ysdywmf wrote:

    > "OK" wrote in message
    > news:qip4v3le2rc14jpdcbv3e5rqg7jap9itrd@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:14:43 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>>>
    >>>> The future looks bright :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista
    >>>
    >>>Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >>>The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >>>Market Share.
    >>>
    >>>So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.
    >>>At least you can say Linux is consistent.
    >>>
    >>>After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop market
    >>>share.

    >>
    >> Yeah, even the Linux Counter is regressing: http://counter.li.org/
    >> (141K users, how silly is that?)

    >
    > It's taking over the world


    Yea.
    At the rate of one molecule per year.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  9. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    OK wrote:

    > Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >
    > http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista


    Just so they don't get away from us, I cut and paste the Vista numbers
    from that link minutes ago:
    (((((
    > Month Windows Vista
    > May, 2007 3.75%
    > June, 2007 4.54%
    > July, 2007 5.43%
    > August, 2007 6.29%
    > September, 2007 7.41%
    > October, 2007 7.94%
    > November, 2007 9.19%
    > December, 2007 10.48%
    > January, 2008 11.97%
    > February, 2008 12.92%
    > March, 2008 14.02%

    )))))

    Now here are the 02/29/08 OS usage figures taken minutes ago from
    http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
    (((((
    > Operating Systems
    > 1 Windows XP 79.12%
    > 2 Windows Vista 6.48%
    > 3 Mac OS X 4.95%
    > 4 Windows 2000 3.29%
    > 5 Linux 2.01%
    > 6 Windows 98 1.05%
    > 7 Windows 2003 0.73%
    > 8 Windows ME 0.38%
    > 9 Windows NT 0.06%
    > 10 WAP 0.03%

    )))))

    Hmmm ... one site puts February Vista usage share at 12.92% and the
    other reports 6.48%.

    Obviously at least one of the sites is doing some cooking.

    Maybe Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, and Patrick Volkerding have gotten
    together and paid w3counter to under-report the Vista numbers.

  10. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Matt writes:

    > OK wrote:
    >
    >> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>
    >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista

    >
    > Just so they don't get away from us, I cut and paste the Vista numbers
    > from that link minutes ago:
    > (((((
    >> Month Windows Vista May, 2007 3.75% June, 2007
    >> 4.54% July, 2007 5.43% August, 2007 6.29% September,
    >> 2007 7.41% October, 2007 7.94% November, 2007 9.19%
    >> December, 2007 10.48% January, 2008 11.97% February,
    >> 2008 12.92% March, 2008 14.02%

    > )))))
    >
    > Now here are the 02/29/08 OS usage figures taken minutes ago from
    > http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
    > (((((
    >> Operating Systems
    >> 1 Windows XP 79.12%
    >> 2 Windows Vista 6.48%
    >> 3 Mac OS X 4.95%
    >> 4 Windows 2000 3.29%
    >> 5 Linux 2.01%
    >> 6 Windows 98 1.05%
    >> 7 Windows 2003 0.73%
    >> 8 Windows ME 0.38%
    >> 9 Windows NT 0.06%
    >> 10 WAP 0.03%

    > )))))
    >
    > Hmmm ... one site puts February Vista usage share at 12.92% and the
    > other reports 6.48%.
    >
    > Obviously at least one of the sites is doing some cooking.


    Why?

    --
    "Its obvious Micoshaft sponsored frauds and net stalkers are now attacking individuals directly in organised gangs in linux advocacy newsgroups as predicted since it is known micoshaft is failing in the market place."
    7, COLA Linux "advocate" and nutjob.

  11. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Matt

    wrote
    on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:05:16 GMT
    :
    > OK wrote:
    >
    >> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>
    >> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista

    >
    > Just so they don't get away from us, I cut and paste the Vista numbers
    > from that link minutes ago:
    > (((((
    >> Month Windows Vista
    >> May, 2007 3.75%
    >> June, 2007 4.54%
    >> July, 2007 5.43%
    >> August, 2007 6.29%
    >> September, 2007 7.41%
    >> October, 2007 7.94%
    >> November, 2007 9.19%
    >> December, 2007 10.48%
    >> January, 2008 11.97%
    >> February, 2008 12.92%
    >> March, 2008 14.02%

    > )))))
    >
    > Now here are the 02/29/08 OS usage figures taken minutes ago from
    > http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
    > (((((
    >> Operating Systems
    >> 1 Windows XP 79.12%
    >> 2 Windows Vista 6.48%
    >> 3 Mac OS X 4.95%
    >> 4 Windows 2000 3.29%
    >> 5 Linux 2.01%
    >> 6 Windows 98 1.05%
    >> 7 Windows 2003 0.73%
    >> 8 Windows ME 0.38%
    >> 9 Windows NT 0.06%
    >> 10 WAP 0.03%

    > )))))
    >
    > Hmmm ... one site puts February Vista usage share at 12.92% and the
    > other reports 6.48%.
    >
    > Obviously at least one of the sites is doing some cooking.
    >
    > Maybe Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, and Patrick Volkerding have gotten
    > together and paid w3counter to under-report the Vista numbers.


    Why would one assume anything of the sort? Every site has
    its own clientele, and that clientele is not orthogonal
    to OS, especially if the site has any sort of bias
    regarding OS.

    Bear also in mind that w3counter.com is probably biased
    high for Linux, as Linux browsers hew to standards
    (including the World Wide Web Consortium's), unlike certain
    other browsers.

    However...

    Since Vista was released Jan 2007, that 6.48% adoption rate
    after 13 1/2 months suggests that Vista will take over
    all desktops after the depressingly long (for Microsoft)
    interval of about 17 1/3 years (linear projection). The more
    optimistic HitsLink figure of 14.02% after 14 1/2 months
    suggests only 8 1/2 years.

    Where do you want to go slowly today?

    --
    #191, ewill3@earthlink.net
    Linux. Because vaporware only goes so far.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


  12. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Matt
    >
    > wrote
    > on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:05:16 GMT
    > :
    >> OK wrote:
    >>
    >>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>>
    >>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista

    >> Just so they don't get away from us, I cut and paste the Vista numbers
    >> from that link minutes ago:
    >> (((((
    >>> Month Windows Vista
    >>> May, 2007 3.75%
    >>> June, 2007 4.54%
    >>> July, 2007 5.43%
    >>> August, 2007 6.29%
    >>> September, 2007 7.41%
    >>> October, 2007 7.94%
    >>> November, 2007 9.19%
    >>> December, 2007 10.48%
    >>> January, 2008 11.97%
    >>> February, 2008 12.92%
    >>> March, 2008 14.02%

    >> )))))
    >>
    >> Now here are the 02/29/08 OS usage figures taken minutes ago from
    >> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
    >> (((((
    >>> Operating Systems
    >>> 1 Windows XP 79.12%
    >>> 2 Windows Vista 6.48%
    >>> 3 Mac OS X 4.95%
    >>> 4 Windows 2000 3.29%
    >>> 5 Linux 2.01%
    >>> 6 Windows 98 1.05%
    >>> 7 Windows 2003 0.73%
    >>> 8 Windows ME 0.38%
    >>> 9 Windows NT 0.06%
    >>> 10 WAP 0.03%

    >> )))))
    >>
    >> Hmmm ... one site puts February Vista usage share at 12.92% and the
    >> other reports 6.48%.
    >>
    >> Obviously at least one of the sites is doing some cooking.
    >>
    >> Maybe Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, and Patrick Volkerding have gotten
    >> together and paid w3counter to under-report the Vista numbers.

    >
    > Why would one assume anything of the sort? Every site has
    > its own clientele, and that clientele is not orthogonal
    > to OS, especially if the site has any sort of bias
    > regarding OS.


    As I understand it, these sites are supposed to get their numbers by
    getting many thousands of sites to run their little
    browser/OS-query/logging programs. The programs report to each site the
    stats on hits to that site, and they report all the stats to the central
    site. So the customer gets specific info about his own site and
    statistical info about all participating sites. I don't see anything in
    that product model that brings a bias toward one OS or another. I don't
    see in such bias an advantage to the proprietors of the central site.
    BTW, I don't see why the potential customer would run the proprietary
    software instead of some FOSS equivalent.

  13. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:15:02 GMT, ysdywmf wrote:
    >
    >> "OK" wrote in message
    >> news:qip4v3le2rc14jpdcbv3e5rqg7jap9itrd@4ax.com...
    >>> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:14:43 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The future looks bright :-)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Meanwhile, Vista reached 14.05% in a steady linear growth:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>

    http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...=Windows+Vista
    >>>>
    >>>>Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >>>>The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >>>>Market Share.
    >>>>
    >>>>So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux.
    >>>>At least you can say Linux is consistent.
    >>>>
    >>>>After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop
    >>>>market share.
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, even the Linux Counter is regressing: http://counter.li.org/
    >>> (141K users, how silly is that?)

    >>
    >> It's taking over the world

    >
    > Yea.
    > At the rate of one molecule per year.
    >

    Then why do Wintards like you feel so threatened, Mr. Soap Suds?

    Cheers.

    --

    A US president declared war on poverty. Poverty won.
    Another US president declared a war on drugs. Drugs won.
    This US president declared a war on terror. Terror won.
    Next?

  14. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    > The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    > Market Share.


    Not likely. Refer to http://www.groklaw.net/ and read all the articles
    (also those they quote in the right column) about the way OOXML gets
    approved.

    Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user
    uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the
    computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people
    (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use
    another OS.

    *That's* the difference.
    --
    These are my personal views and not those of Fujitsu Siemens Computers!
    Josef Möllers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
    If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize (T. Pratchett)
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  15. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:

    > Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >
    >> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >> The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >> Market Share.

    >
    > Not likely. Refer to http://www.groklaw.net/ and read all the articles
    > (also those they quote in the right column) about the way OOXML gets
    > approved.


    That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there for fear
    of getting a virus or trojan or something.

    As for OOXML vs ODF, all I see is a lot of conjecture, accusations and so
    forth.
    I see very little in the way of factual evidence.

    Possibly it may turn out to be totally rigged I don't know and personally I
    really don't care either way.

    > Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user
    > uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the
    > computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people
    > (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use
    > another OS.
    >
    > *That's* the difference.


    Noble, however most people just want to get work done not go on some
    religious pilgrimage.

    My advice to anyone is to use the OS that supports the applications you
    need to run.
    IOW choose your applications first and then your OS.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  16. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!



    "NoStop" wrote in message
    news:fsun0602uug@news3.newsguy.com...


    > Then why do Wintards like you feel so threatened, Mr. Soap Suds?


    Why do *you* need to troll the vista groups, you started there before people
    like frank came here in retaliation.
    In fact why do you need to lie, don't you know enough about linux to uses
    its *advantages* to sell it.
    You are more like a used car salesman who knows the product is cr@p and will
    lie about anything to sell it.
    You get all worked up when someone calls your lies too, you should quit,
    stress is bad for you.
    Your best bet to sell linux is to go away.



  17. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:29:18 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
    >
    >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>
    >>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look. The ODF vs OOXML
    >>> debates.
    >>> Market Share.

    >>
    >> Not likely. Refer to http://www.groklaw.net/ and read all the articles
    >> (also those they quote in the right column) about the way OOXML gets
    >> approved.

    >
    > That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there for
    > fear of getting a virus or trojan or something.(snip)


    Oh well... more Roy obsessing.

    --
    Rick

  18. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:15:02 +0000, ysdywmf wrote:

    > "OK" wrote in message
    > news:qip4v3le2rc14jpdcbv3e5rqg7jap9itrd@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:14:43 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:34:38 +0200, OK wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> APRIL'S FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Actually, is DECREASED to 0.61%, down from 0.65% in February:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/repo...qpcustom=Linux
    >>>>
    >>>> The future looks bright :-)

    snip
    >>>
    >>>Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look. The ODF vs OOXML
    >>>debates.
    >>>Market Share.
    >>>
    >>>So if you want to be on the losing team, go with Linux. At least you
    >>>can say Linux is consistent.
    >>>
    >>>After 10+ years it still is hovering around 0.6 percent of desktop
    >>>market share.

    >>
    >> Yeah, even the Linux Counter is regressing: http://counter.li.org/
    >> (141K users, how silly is that?)

    >

    (In response in a.o.l.ubuntu newsgroup, Market share thread, but also in
    context in this thread, I thought).

    Can someone explain to me how does Ubuntu, Dreamlinux (very nice new
    version 3.0 out now, By the Bye), or anyone else actually know that I am
    using their OS as my desktop if I don't tell them?

    We know that companies in many countries are actually using Linux, and we
    also know that when a new distribution is released, people flock to
    download it, sometimes bringing servers down in the process, so surely no-
    one really knows how many of us are using Linux on a day to day basis?

    Red Hat's profits are up, Microsoft are 'talking' about Linux, but it is
    the nature of Linux development that it will not make huge inroads into
    the dominance's of the past unless it is promoted, advocated and marketed
    in the right way, and even then, this progress will not be immediate.

    Mark Shuttleworth and Ubuntu have made great strides into making Linux
    popular to 'ordinary' computer users and as long as this continues, and
    the software provides the qualities that people can use everyday, Linux
    users will grow. How fast? who knows, but one thing that cannot be done is
    to *force* people to use 'X' operating system over another. No-one has the
    right to tell me what to do or how to use my computers. It is *my* choice,
    along with the choice of thousands, if not millions, of others.

    The aim of Linux users, to my mind anyway, is to raise awareness of the
    alternatives to Windows, and to see all the bickering and outright abuse
    makes me sad. No-one is going to change my mind. Maybe the Distro, but
    never my mind.

    If Linux has such a small market share, why isn't it just ignored? It is
    worth mentioning that in the UK and most of Europe, Skoda cars were a
    joke, the same as some see today's Linux. Volkswagen bought Skoda; no-one
    is laughing now.

    To me, infighting, personal attacks and insults are unnecessary and does
    nothing to help the advocacy and progression of Linux at all. But I
    suppose that's life, isn't it?

    Tony(UK)

    --
    I am not a nym-shift, am quite passive and full with friendliness and
    sincerity - till some bugger upsets me!

  19. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    > On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:53 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
    >
    >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>
    >>> Linux seems to be losing no matter where you look.
    >>> The ODF vs OOXML debates.
    >>> Market Share.

    >> Not likely. Refer to http://www.groklaw.net/ and read all the articles
    >> (also those they quote in the right column) about the way OOXML gets
    >> approved.

    >
    > That's a Roy Schestowitz administered site so I will not go there for fear
    > of getting a virus or trojan or something.


    Or worse: get some insight.
    BTW: I use Linux and I don't get viri or trojans.

    > As for OOXML vs ODF, all I see is a lot of conjecture, accusations and so
    > forth.
    > I see very little in the way of factual evidence.


    What more evidence do you need than eye-witness reports of people who
    have attended local standard bodies' meetings?

    > Possibly it may turn out to be totally rigged I don't know and personally I
    > really don't care either way.


    Indeed, who cares whether the whole process is rigged if the outcome is
    that which one desires and if one can, afterwards, claim that "market
    share has led to the overwhelming success of OOXML", that OOXML was
    elected a standard because it's a standard that everyone can use?

    >> Even if Linux is in the less-than-1%-area: each and every Linux-user
    >> uses it because of its merits, not because it came bundeled with the
    >> computer they bought or someone forces them to use it. Some people
    >> (including me) even use it *against* pressure from higher places to use
    >> another OS.
    >>
    >> *That's* the difference.

    >
    > Noble, however most people just want to get work done not go on some
    > religious pilgrimage.
    >
    > My advice to anyone is to use the OS that supports the applications you
    > need to run.
    > IOW choose your applications first and then your OS.
    >


    I 100% agree to you. Let everyone chose the OS that they want to use.
    Let no-one interfere e.g. by making documents accessible only to those
    using office systems of one manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by
    making web sites accessible only to those using browsers of one
    manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by making hardware accessible
    only to those using OSes of one manufacturer.

    --
    These are my personal views and not those of Fujitsu Siemens Computers!
    Josef Möllers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
    If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize (T. Pratchett)
    Company Details: http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/imprint.html

  20. Re: Linux hits 6.1% on March!

    Josef Moellers wrote:

    >Let everyone chose the OS that they want to use.
    >Let no-one interfere e.g. by making documents accessible only to those
    >using office systems of one manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by
    >making web sites accessible only to those using browsers of one
    >manufacturer. Let no-one interfere e.g. by making hardware accessible
    >only to those using OSes of one manufacturer.


    This is really all that some of us are after.


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