On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:

> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>
>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>> 1:14pm EDT
>>
>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>
>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of national
>> standards bodies of these results, a press release on this subject will
>> be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman Roger Frost said
>> in an e-mail message.

Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?

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Matt wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>
>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday
>> Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:14pm EDT
>>
>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>
>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.

More:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1551282538
http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2211
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...ncement_1.html
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/s...ectid=10501386

____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____

> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>
>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>
>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>
>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of national
>>> standards bodies of these results, a press release on this subject will
>>> be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman Roger Frost said
>>> in an e-mail message.
>
> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?

Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for the
jackpot.

Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes. Other
jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true, but
Microsoft is above the law.

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Roy Schestowitz espoused:
> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>
>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>>
>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>>
>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of national
>>>> standards bodies of these results, a press release on this subject will
>>>> be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman Roger Frost said
>>>> in an e-mail message.
>>
>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>
> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for the
> jackpot.
>
> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes. Other
> jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true, but
> Microsoft is above the law.
>

I'm not surprised they're keeping this quiet. I wouldn't mind betting
that Microsoft were unsuccessful, so ISO are using today, All Fools Day,
in order to try to squeeze some more votes from somewhere.

BSI, the British Standards Institute, has been corrupted.

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____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 01 April 2008 07:22 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz espoused:
>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>>
>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>>
>>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>>>
>>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of national
>>>>> standards bodies of these results, a press release on this subject will
>>>>> be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman Roger Frost said
>>>>> in an e-mail message.
>>>
>>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>>
>> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for the
>> jackpot.
>>
>> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes. Other
>> jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true, but
>> Microsoft is above the law.
>>
>
> I'm not surprised they're keeping this quiet. I wouldn't mind betting
> that Microsoft were unsuccessful, so ISO are using today, All Fools Day,
> in order to try to squeeze some more votes from somewhere.
>
> BSI, the British Standards Institute, has been corrupted.

That's for sure, but Stephane informed me about this over a month ago when he
saw the 'smoking gun' reappointment. That's when I said openly (in a site
even) that BSI had been corrupted... even before I knew about the change from
a NO to a YES (without any reason given).

How can a corrupted national body like BSI be brought to justice? Can stuffers
be sentenced?

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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:13:12 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>
>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>>
>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>>
>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>>>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>>>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>>>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.
>>
>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>
> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for
> the jackpot.

I have no doubt OXML will become an ISO standard. It is the way of the
world.
>
> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes.
> Other jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true,
> but Microsoft is above the law.

.... my point, exactly.

Maybe, just maybe, the world will publicly see Microsoft, and it's
managers for what they are. I doubt it.

--
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* Matt peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Matt wrote:
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>
>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday
>>> Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:14pm EDT
>>>
>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>
>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.
>
> More:
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1551282538
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2211
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...ncement_1.html
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/s...ectid=10501386

Will this dude be happy, or sad?

http://www.dwheeler.com/blog/

Fri, 21 Mar 2008
Microsoft Office XML (OOXML) massively defective

In my opinion, the OOXML specification should not become an
international standard, period. I think it clearly doesn't meet the
criteria for "fast track" - but more importantly, it doesn't meet the
needs for being a standard at all. It completely contradicts the goal
of "One standard, one test - Accepted everywhere", and it simply is
not an open standard.

--
The finest pieces of software are those where one individual has a complete
sense of exactly how the program works. To have that, you have to really
love the program and concentrate on keeping it simple, to an incredible
degree.
-- Bill Gates

____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 11:08 : \____

> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:13:12 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>>
>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>>
>>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>>>
>>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>>>>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>>>>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>>>>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.
>>>
>>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>>
>> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for
>> the jackpot.
>
> I have no doubt OXML will become an ISO standard. It is the way of the
> world.

But at what /cost/? The US too could claim that nuking Japan had made them
a 'winner', but it never made them popular with the east.

>> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes.
>> Other jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true,
>> but Microsoft is above the law.
>
> ... my point, exactly.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, the world will publicly see Microsoft, and it's
> managers for what they are. I doubt it.

The least we can do is spread the word.

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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:56:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:


> The least we can do is spread the word.

Especially when you are getting paid for spreading it hey Roy
Schestowitz....

Your masters must be very upset with you after the OOXML win.

They funneled a good chunck of change your way in order to support your
spamming activities.
And now your side loses.

Looks like they didn't get their monies worth.


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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
[...]
> The least we can do is spread the word.

Jawohl, Herr Obersturmbannführer Roy!

http://www.ecma-international.org/ne...e_Open_XML.htm

------
ISO and IEC approve Office Open XML document format standard

The International Standards Organization (ISO) and International
Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) have approved ISO/IEC DIS 29500,
Office Open XML File Formats as an International Standard. Approval
requires at least 2/3 (i.e. 66.66 %) of the votes cast by national
bodies participating in ISO/IEC JTC 1 to be positive; and no more than
1/4 (i.e. 25 %) of the total number of national body votes cast
negative. Both of these criteria were achieved, with 75 % of votes cast
by national bodies participating in ISO/IEC JTC 1 being positive and
only 14 % of all national votes cast being negative.

Open XML is a platform-independent open standard for word-processing
documents, presentations and spreadsheets. The standard has been widely
adopted by hundreds of organizations throughout the industry, and serves
to ensure the long-term preservation of documents by maintaining
compatibility and fostering continuing advances in the field of
documents and information technology.

Independent software vendors, including Apple, Corel, Microsoft and
Novell have already shipped implementations of the Open XML standard
within popular applications such as iWork, iPhone, WordPerfect, Open
Office and Microsoft Office 2007.

“ISO/IEC approval of this global standard represents an important
milestone in our goal to support access to billions of existing binary
documents, as well as to enable interoperability across office
productivity applications and with line-of-business systems , ” said Dr.
Istvan Sebestyen, Secretary General of Ecma International. “The
constructive input provided by ISO/IEC National Bodies around the world
to improve and clarify the DIS text has resulted in an enhanced open
standard that meets extensive requirements to support continued
implementation across the industry. I would like to take this
opportunity to thank ISO, IEC, JTC 1, the National Bodies and Ecma TC45
for their hard work and for their valuable contributions in this
project. The process was very effective, the specification is
much-improved, and we are pleased with the impressive support for its
ratification.”

IS 29500 marks the culmination of joint development efforts over the
past two years by the members of Ecma Technical Committee 45 (TC45) and
through its subsequent submission of the Ecma International
specification to the ISO/IEC process for additional input from the
global standards community.

“ISO/IEC approval maximizes the ability of independent software vendors
such as NextPage to deliver solutions to customers who have existing
binary documents,” said Tom Ngo, CTO of NextPage and member of Ecma
TC45. “As the sole representative of ISVs on TC45, we worked hard to
foster interoperability and conformance conditions that help to level
the competitive playing field. This approval puts control of Open XML in
the hands of the international community.”

“Just as we have worked to establish and steward our print collections,
the British Library is committed to preserving and providing access to
the U.K.’s digital heritage,” said Adam Farquhar, head of Digital
Library Technology at the British Library, and vice-chair of Ecma TC45.
“Establishing Office Open XML as an open standard substantially enhances
our ability to achieve this. It’s an important step forward for digital
preservation and will help us fulfill the British Library’s core
responsibility of making our digital collections accessible for
generations to come.”

“The U.S. Library of Congress believes that the preservation of digital
content for future generations will be much easier if widely used
software applications use formats with full public specifications that
will be maintained by the global community going forward,” said Martha
Anderson, Director of Program Management, National Digital Information
Infrastructure and Preservation Program. “The approval of Office Open
XML as an international standard has important benefits for libraries
and other archival institutions for generations to come.”

For more information: please contact Dr. Istvan Sebestyen, Secretary
General of Ecma International. Email: istvan@ecma-international.org.
------

regards,
alexander.

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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:56:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 11:08 : \____
>
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:13:12 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>>>
>>>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31,
>>>>>> 2008 1:14pm EDT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for
>>>>>> Standardization (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether
>>>>>> Microsoft (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support
>>>>>> needed to have its document format made into a global industry
>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>>>>>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>>>>>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>>>>>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.
>>>>
>>>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>>>
>>> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go
>>> for the jackpot.
>>
>> I have no doubt OXML will become an ISO standard. It is the way of the
>> world.
>
> But at what /cost/? The US too could claim that nuking Japan had made
> them a 'winner', but it never made them popular with the east.

Cost doesn't matter at the moment. As long as MS can maintain its
monopoly power until it gain control another market, they don't care.

>
>>> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes.
>>> Other jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably
>>> true, but Microsoft is above the law.
>>
>> ... my point, exactly.
>>
>> Maybe, just maybe, the world will publicly see Microsoft, and it's
>> managers for what they are. I doubt it.
>
> The least we can do is spread the word.

Unfortunately most people don't care. Still, maybe enough of the people
that can change things do care.

--
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:23:55 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:56:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>
>> The least we can do is spread the word.
>
> Especially when you are getting paid for spreading it hey Roy
> Schestowitz....
>
> Your masters must be very upset with you after the OOXML win.
>
> They funneled a good chunck of change your way in order to support your
> spamming activities.
> And now your side loses.
>
> Looks like they didn't get their monies worth.

More Roy obsession.


--
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____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 23:24 : \____

> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:56:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 11:08 : \____
>>
>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:13:12 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31,
>>>>>>> 2008 1:14pm EDT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for
>>>>>>> Standardization (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether
>>>>>>> Microsoft (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support
>>>>>>> needed to have its document format made into a global industry
>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of
>>>>>>> national standards bodies of these results, a press release on this
>>>>>>> subject will be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman
>>>>>>> Roger Frost said in an e-mail message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>>>>
>>>> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go
>>>> for the jackpot.
>>>
>>> I have no doubt OXML will become an ISO standard. It is the way of the
>>> world.
>>
>> But at what /cost/? The US too could claim that nuking Japan had made
>> them a 'winner', but it never made them popular with the east.
>
> Cost doesn't matter at the moment. As long as MS can maintain its
> monopoly power until it gain control another market, they don't care.
>
>>
>>>> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes.
>>>> Other jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably
>>>> true, but Microsoft is above the law.
>>>
>>> ... my point, exactly.
>>>
>>> Maybe, just maybe, the world will publicly see Microsoft, and it's
>>> managers for what they are. I doubt it.
>>
>> The least we can do is spread the word.
>
> Unfortunately most people don't care. Still, maybe enough of the people
> that can change things do care.

You don't need to approach the 'broad population' (as in people who don't care
or understand), but only those who make decisions. It's effective enough.

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____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 23:24 : \____

> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:23:55 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:56:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The least we can do is spread the word.
>>
>> Especially when you are getting paid for spreading it hey Roy
>> Schestowitz....
>>
>> Your masters must be very upset with you after the OOXML win.
>>
>> They funneled a good chunck of change your way in order to support your
>> spamming activities.
>> And now your side loses.
>>
>> Looks like they didn't get their monies worth.
>
> More Roy obsession.

More libel rather.

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Roy Schestowitz espoused:
> ____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 01 April 2008 07:22 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz espoused:
>>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 01 April 2008 02:16 : \____
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000, Matt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...19918720080331
>>>>>
>>>>>> ISO to announce Microsoft Open XML result Wednesday Mon Mar 31, 2008
>>>>>> 1:14pm EDT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GENEVA (Reuters) - The International Organization for Standardization
>>>>>> (ISO) said it would reveal on Wednesday whether Microsoft (MSFT.O:
>>>>>> Quote, Profile, Research) had won the support needed to have its
>>>>>> document format made into a global industry standard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Because ISO needs first to inform its worldwide membership of national
>>>>>> standards bodies of these results, a press release on this subject will
>>>>>> be issued on Wednesday, 2 April, 2008," ISO spokesman Roger Frost said
>>>>>> in an e-mail message.
>>>>
>>>> Is there really any doubt Microsoft will win?
>>>
>>> Win /what/? Bad reputation? It has done this already, so why not go for the
>>> jackpot.
>>>
>>> Experts in this opine that Microsoft may come to regret these crimes. Other
>>> jokingly say that people should be jailed, which is probably true, but
>>> Microsoft is above the law.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not surprised they're keeping this quiet. I wouldn't mind betting
>> that Microsoft were unsuccessful, so ISO are using today, All Fools Day,
>> in order to try to squeeze some more votes from somewhere.
>>
>> BSI, the British Standards Institute, has been corrupted.
>
> That's for sure, but Stephane informed me about this over a month ago when he
> saw the 'smoking gun' reappointment. That's when I said openly (in a site
> even) that BSI had been corrupted... even before I knew about the change from
> a NO to a YES (without any reason given).
>
> How can a corrupted national body like BSI be brought to justice? Can stuffers
> be sentenced?
>

I'm sure that those involved can have a spotlight shone on them. I'm
also very sure that those running BSI at the moment can be called to
question, and perhaps we could look for less corruptible folk to be put
in place instead?

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* Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:

> You don't need to approach the 'broad population' (as in people who don't care
> or understand), but only those who make decisions. It's effective enough.

Microsoft understands "choke-points" very well.

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____/ Linonut on Wednesday 02 April 2008 12:40 : \____

> * Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> You don't need to approach the 'broad population' (as in people who don't
>> care or understand), but only those who make decisions. It's effective
>> enough.
>
> Microsoft understands "choke-points" very well.

Fine then. Let's fine evidence of this and show it. Microsoft loves the boiler
room. It fear transparency.

And while I'm at it, what goes on behind the scenes is complicated and
Microsoft does not shy away from smearing and intimidating critics. If you
talk about it in public, some anonymous figures come out from the shade and
attack, which is why it's better not to talk about it sometimes. But that's a
subject for another type of thread...

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> And while I'm at it, what goes on behind the scenes is complicated...

How would you know what "goes on behind the scenes"?

You cola nuts sure are strange, with your bull**** claims of inside info.
and your laughable suggestions of how MS should run its business.

For instance, on the face of it - just reading some of his posts - you might
think Rex Ballard is some kind of manager in OEM relations at Microsoft.
Turns out he knows diddly about MS, of course; he just casually makes up
numbers and tosses them out as if they were fact, knowing the spineless
"advocates" on cola will never challenge him.

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:10:37 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> And while I'm at it, what goes on behind the scenes is complicated...
>
> How would you know what "goes on behind the scenes"?

A littl bird told him?

Or maybe "someone told "PJ" (used when Roy the groupie wants to name drop).
Possibly that good old standby "a reliable sauce"?

> You cola nuts sure are strange, with your bull**** claims of inside info.
> and your laughable suggestions of how MS should run its business.

Those boys in Redmond must be howling when they read this group, and
believe me, they *do* read this group.

> For instance, on the face of it - just reading some of his posts - you might
> think Rex Ballard is some kind of manager in OEM relations at Microsoft.

Hahahaha!
I can picture him sitting at a staff meeting all dress up in his skirt and
pumps.

Interesting thing is, if he actually tried that stunt at the company he
works for, they probably wouldn't say a word about it as "XXX" is really
big on diversity.

In fact, they will pay medical benefits for same sex "couples"
co-habitating but will not do similar for hetero couples unless they are
married.
So I am told anyway.

Looks like Rex hit the mother 'load'....



> Turns out he knows diddly about MS, of course; he just casually makes up
> numbers and tosses them out as if they were fact, knowing the spineless
> "advocates" on cola will never challenge him.

Roy worships him, which I find really, really strange.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....955c95e422489f

"Thanks (Rex). Coming from you, this means a lot. "

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