Gregory Shearman wrote:

> Hadron puked:
>>
>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>
> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>
> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>
> **** you.

The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.

chrisv writes:

> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>
>> Hadron puked:
>>>
>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>
>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>
>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>
>> **** you.
>
> The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
> his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.
>

I guess you have snit kill filed? The links have been posted more than
once.


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COLA Hypocrite

"Hadron" stated in post
fso887$eo3$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:31 AM:

> chrisv writes:
>
>> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>>
>>> Hadron puked:
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>
>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>
>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>
>>> **** you.
>>
>> The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
>> his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.
>>
>
> I guess you have snit kill filed? The links have been posted more than
> once.
>
And they have been quoted - so not even having me in a KF would excuse the
accusations against you.


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Snit writes:

> "Hadron" stated in post
> fso887$eo3$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:31 AM:
>
>> chrisv writes:
>>
>>> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadron puked:
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>
>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>
>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>
>>>> **** you.
>>>
>>> The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
>>> his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.
>>>
>>
>> I guess you have snit kill filed? The links have been posted more than
>> once.
>>
> And they have been quoted - so not even having me in a KF would excuse the
> accusations against you.

It's the traditional COLA tar'n'feathering. Despite all evidence they
gang up on the person who has proven an "advocate" to be
clueless. Sigh. When will they ever learn.

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customers. With jNetX we own the intellectual property for our
services, allowing us to evolve the services as and when required."
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COLA Hypocrite

"Hadron" stated in post
fso8mp$eo3$4@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:39 AM:

> Snit writes:
>
>> "Hadron" stated in post
>> fso887$eo3$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:31 AM:
>>
>>> chrisv writes:
>>>
>>>> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hadron puked:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> **** you.
>>>>
>>>> The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
>>>> his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess you have snit kill filed? The links have been posted more than
>>> once.
>>>
>> And they have been quoted - so not even having me in a KF would excuse the
>> accusations against you.
>
> It's the traditional COLA tar'n'feathering. Despite all evidence they
> gang up on the person who has proven an "advocate" to be
> clueless. Sigh. When will they ever learn.

Seriously, it is worse in CSMA. Not even basic math facts are "safe" from
being argued against... I am currently debating with Wally and Sandman over,
I kid you not:

S2, the set:
{1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10}
...
I have noted that a subset can have zero items (be an
empty set), such as a subset of items in the above set
with the "feature" of being over 1000. There are no
such numbers and thus the subset of S2 numbers that
are over 1000 = {}.


Wally showed he did not understand such basic set theory and claimed:

I would have thought {0}?

And then Sandman jumped in to try to defend his ignorance. It is
hilarious... for more fun on see:



Seriously: is *anyone* in COLA as ignorant as Wally and Sandman? I do not
follow the debates in COLA as much - I would love to see some of the
"doozies".

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When God changes your mind, that's faith.
When facts change your mind, that's science.

Snit writes:

> "Hadron" stated in post
> fso8mp$eo3$4@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:39 AM:
>
>> Snit writes:
>>
>>> "Hadron" stated in post
>>> fso887$eo3$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 7:31 AM:
>>>
>>>> chrisv writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hadron puked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **** you.
>>>>>
>>>>> The troll is right about one thing, though. You can't "honestly" make up
>>>>> his idiotic, dishonest claims. He's a shameless liar.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess you have snit kill filed? The links have been posted more than
>>>> once.
>>>>
>>> And they have been quoted - so not even having me in a KF would excuse the
>>> accusations against you.
>>
>> It's the traditional COLA tar'n'feathering. Despite all evidence they
>> gang up on the person who has proven an "advocate" to be
>> clueless. Sigh. When will they ever learn.
>
> Seriously, it is worse in CSMA. Not even basic math facts are "safe" from
> being argued against... I am currently debating with Wally and Sandman over,
> I kid you not:
>
> S2, the set:
> {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10}
> ...
> I have noted that a subset can have zero items (be an
> empty set), such as a subset of items in the above set
> with the "feature" of being over 1000. There are no
> such numbers and thus the subset of S2 numbers that
> are over 1000 = {}.
>
>
> Wally showed he did not understand such basic set theory and claimed:
>
> I would have thought {0}?

And when you pointed out 0 was not in the original set regardless of the
subset filter? Don't tell me. I can guess. Ye gods.

>
> And then Sandman jumped in to try to defend his ignorance. It is
> hilarious... for more fun on see:
>
>
>
> Seriously: is *anyone* in COLA as ignorant as Wally and Sandman? I do not
> follow the debates in COLA as much - I would love to see some of the
> "doozies".

Yes. If you were to have the same argument here if someone as ignorant
as, say, Gregory stated that {0} was a valid subset then you can be sure
that the usual suspects would have joined in on his side.

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-- in #debian-boot

"Hadron" stated in post
fsoa7r$eo3$7@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 8:05 AM:

>>> It's the traditional COLA tar'n'feathering. Despite all evidence they
>>> gang up on the person who has proven an "advocate" to be
>>> clueless. Sigh. When will they ever learn.
>>
>> Seriously, it is worse in CSMA. Not even basic math facts are "safe" from
>> being argued against... I am currently debating with Wally and Sandman over,
>> I kid you not:
>>
>> S2, the set:
>> {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10}
>> ...
>> I have noted that a subset can have zero items (be an
>> empty set), such as a subset of items in the above set
>> with the "feature" of being over 1000. There are no
>> such numbers and thus the subset of S2 numbers that
>> are over 1000 = {}.
>>
>>
>> Wally showed he did not understand such basic set theory and claimed:
>>
>> I would have thought {0}?
>
> And when you pointed out 0 was not in the original set regardless of the
> subset filter? Don't tell me. I can guess. Ye gods.

Wally spewed such things as:

And the number of those positive integers that were over 1000
was 0 therefore the subset must reflect that fact and not
simply be empty!

the subset in question must by definition contain information
that relates directly to the set that it is derived from even
if as in your example it is that 0 elements of the set are
over 1000!

I gave a clear example as to when a subset with 0 elements
would not actually be empty as you claimed that it would!

But zero items does not necessarily translate to being empty
as you have said it would!

your delusion is that something that owes its very existence
to the fact that it contains information can in fact be
...empty!

Now research why a "subset" cannot be "empty"

On and on... he really is - or seems - incapable of understanding the most
basic level of set theory (though I did find references to a kindergarten
lesson which used picture graphs he might be referencing when he talks about
using 0 to represent the empty set). Generally by middle school the
concepts and the notation are covered in more depth... even for students
less advanced in math the concepts and notion are covered in high school.
We are not talking even college level math here!

>> And then Sandman jumped in to try to defend his ignorance. It is
>> hilarious... for more fun on see:
>>
>>
>>
>> Seriously: is *anyone* in COLA as ignorant as Wally and Sandman? I do not
>> follow the debates in COLA as much - I would love to see some of the
>> "doozies".
>
> Yes. If you were to have the same argument here if someone as ignorant
> as, say, Gregory stated that {0} was a valid subset then you can be sure
> that the usual suspects would have joined in on his side.

I suspect you are right - but I would love to see if any debate in COLA has
been *that* extreme in arguing against basic math concepts (in this case not
quite elementary level, but middle school level).

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all but the most crucial features." -- Steve Jobs

Gregory Shearman writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Maybe the big head Gregory Shearman can explain how when I get a new
>> kernel my video "will just work" without having to downlod latest,
>> export the CC variable, kill gnome and then recompile and install? I
>> have been doing this for ages. But its a pain in the ass.
>
> Kill Gnome?
>
> Why the **** do you have to do that????
>
> I don't reboot unless I want to start a new kernel. I don't even kill X to
> install a new nvidia-driver. I don't have to, and neither should you, if
> your machine is set up correctly.
>
> You really have no idea, do you?

You really have NO idea what you are talking about.

The steps to build and use the latest drivers in Debian are:

boot to full screen mode ctl-alt-f1
kill gnome
export your CC variable to the correct version used for the new kernel
install (ensuring you have build env installed)
restart gnome


Don't believe me? Well, in your words : go **** yourself and find
out. The world does not use the same Distro as Gregory "UI design is a
waste of time" Shearman.

Here is the first "how to" i found just for you

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...2153689e4#4796

Feel free to apologise whenever you're ready.

You're REALLY not very good at this Gregory. You start frothing and
swearing and generally coming across as a bit of a loony.

"Hadron" stated in post
fsp21i$71t$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 2:51 PM:

> Gregory Shearman writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe the big head Gregory Shearman can explain how when I get a new
>>> kernel my video "will just work" without having to downlod latest,
>>> export the CC variable, kill gnome and then recompile and install? I
>>> have been doing this for ages. But its a pain in the ass.
>>
>> Kill Gnome?
>>
>> Why the **** do you have to do that????
>>
>> I don't reboot unless I want to start a new kernel. I don't even kill X to
>> install a new nvidia-driver. I don't have to, and neither should you, if
>> your machine is set up correctly.
>>
>> You really have no idea, do you?
>
> You really have NO idea what you are talking about.
>
> The steps to build and use the latest drivers in Debian are:
>
> boot to full screen mode ctl-alt-f1
> kill gnome
> export your CC variable to the correct version used for the new kernel
> install (ensuring you have build env installed)
> restart gnome
>
>
> Don't believe me? Well, in your words : go **** yourself and find
> out. The world does not use the same Distro as Gregory "UI design is a
> waste of time" Shearman.
>
> Here is the first "how to" i found just for you
>
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...d0acd035121536
> 89e4#4796
>
> Feel free to apologise whenever you're ready.
>
> You're REALLY not very good at this Gregory. You start frothing and
> swearing and generally coming across as a bit of a loony.

A bit? I disagree.


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- Anatole France

Snit writes:

> "Hadron" stated in post
> fsp21i$71t$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/30/08 2:51 PM:
>
>> Gregory Shearman writes:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe the big head Gregory Shearman can explain how when I get a new
>>>> kernel my video "will just work" without having to downlod latest,
>>>> export the CC variable, kill gnome and then recompile and install? I
>>>> have been doing this for ages. But its a pain in the ass.
>>>
>>> Kill Gnome?
>>>
>>> Why the **** do you have to do that????
>>>
>>> I don't reboot unless I want to start a new kernel. I don't even kill X to
>>> install a new nvidia-driver. I don't have to, and neither should you, if
>>> your machine is set up correctly.
>>>
>>> You really have no idea, do you?
>>
>> You really have NO idea what you are talking about.
>>
>> The steps to build and use the latest drivers in Debian are:
>>
>> boot to full screen mode ctl-alt-f1
>> kill gnome
>> export your CC variable to the correct version used for the new kernel
>> install (ensuring you have build env installed)
>> restart gnome
>>
>>
>> Don't believe me? Well, in your words : go **** yourself and find
>> out. The world does not use the same Distro as Gregory "UI design is a
>> waste of time" Shearman.
>>
>> Here is the first "how to" i found just for you
>>
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...d0acd035121536
>> 89e4#4796
>>
>> Feel free to apologise whenever you're ready.
>>
>> You're REALLY not very good at this Gregory. You start frothing and
>> swearing and generally coming across as a bit of a loony.
>
> A bit? I disagree.

What amazes me the most is that he accuses me of outright lying when he
KNOWS I use Linux. He surely must know I contribute to Ubuntu group
amongst others. He must know that I wouldnt lie as its too easy to get
caught?

What IS his issue?

I guess it's all part of his "I'm alright jack" attitude - it meets his
low level needs now so no need to improve things for future generations
of users. Incredibly selfish amongst other things.

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Hadron wrote:

> Snit writes:
>
>> "Gregory Shearman" stated in post
>> 1469108.oGTMoc2jXL@netscape.net on 3/29/08 11:40 PM:
>>
>>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard,
>>>> and conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>
>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>
>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>
>>> **** you.
>>
>> Let us not pretend you are not actively denying other quotes that have
>> been shown about you - I can see why someone would not spend time looking
>> for a quote to satisfy your request when it is clear your habit is to
>> dishonestly deny the quotes anyway?
>>
>> Still, I have not seen the quote of you saying that Linux is perfect -
>> and
>> would like Hadron to show where you did and defend his claim. Hadron -
>> can
>> you do so? With a quick Googling I found no such quote, but I do not
>> know the details.
>
> "perfect as possible" was the quote I think.

No it wasn't you lying little ****.

> I really can not be
> bothered.

Of course you don't you ****ing liar. You misrepresent and then you ****ing
run away you cowardly, grovelling, lying little turd.

> Slight variations aside, Gregory will jus huff and puff and
> deny it all any way as is his wont. He is, as someone said, a
> dinosaur. He really did say that usenet readers should read the nntp
> spec.

I said no such thing you ****ing liar.

Where's the ****ing quote you stinking cowardly ****ing liar?

> He also said he didn't want Linux getting any better in case the
> wrong kind of people used it.

Where's the ****ing quote you stinking little turd?

> He also said that he thought consistent UIs
> were a waste of a programmer's time. He is truly clueless and I'm not
> going to feed his "insult,swear and run indenial" tactics.

Show us the quote you ****ing liar...


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Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> ____/ Gregory Shearman on Sunday 30 March 2008 07:40 : \____
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv writes:
>>>
>>>>>DFS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO ONE could POSSIBLY think that ANY OS is
>>>>>>> "perfect". Only a fscking true ASSHOLE and LIAR would claim that
>>>>>>> ANYONE thinks that ANY OS is "perfect".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already went over this, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not only did cola bozo Greg Shearman insist over and over that Linux
>>>>>> is perfect,
>>>>
>>>> NO ONE could POSSIBLY think that ANY OS is
>>>> "perfect". Only a fscking true ASSHOLE and LIAR would claim that
>>>> ANYONE thinks that ANY OS is "perfect".
>>>>
>>>> Get that, Quack and DumFSck?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard, and
>>> conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>
>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>
>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>
>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>
>> **** you.
>
> They are not worth the anger, Gregory. That's what they try to do when
> they provoke. Just add them to your filter and forget them for good.
>

Yeah... There they go.

--
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Hadron wrote:

> Gregory Shearman writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe the big head Gregory Shearman can explain how when I get a new
>>> kernel my video "will just work" without having to downlod latest,
>>> export the CC variable, kill gnome and then recompile and install? I
>>> have been doing this for ages. But its a pain in the ass.
>>
>> Kill Gnome?
>>
>> Why the **** do you have to do that????
>>
>> I don't reboot unless I want to start a new kernel. I don't even kill X
>> to install a new nvidia-driver. I don't have to, and neither should you,
>> if your machine is set up correctly.
>>
>> You really have no idea, do you?
>
> You really have NO idea what you are talking about.
>
> The steps to build and use the latest drivers in Debian are:
>
> boot to full screen mode ctl-alt-f1
> kill gnome
> export your CC variable to the correct version used for the new kernel
> install (ensuring you have build env installed)
> restart gnome
>
>
> Don't believe me? Well, in your words : go **** yourself and find
> out. The world does not use the same Distro as Gregory "UI design is a
> waste of time" Shearman.

**** off turd.

> Here is the first "how to" i found just for you
>
>

[deleted irrelevant blog post]

> Feel free to apologise whenever you're ready.
>
> You're REALLY not very good at this Gregory. You start frothing and
> swearing and generally coming across as a bit of a loony.

GentooPenguin# emerge nvidia-drivers

=================================

Learn something about Linux you cowardly stinking lying little turd.




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Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Gregory Shearman wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Snit writes:
>>
>>> "Gregory Shearman" stated in post
>>> 1469108.oGTMoc2jXL@netscape.net on 3/29/08 11:40 PM:
>>>
>>>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard,
>>>>> and conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>
>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>
>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>
>>>> **** you.
>>>
>>> Let us not pretend you are not actively denying other quotes that have
>>> been shown about you - I can see why someone would not spend time looking
>>> for a quote to satisfy your request when it is clear your habit is to
>>> dishonestly deny the quotes anyway?
>>>
>>> Still, I have not seen the quote of you saying that Linux is perfect -
>>> and
>>> would like Hadron to show where you did and defend his claim. Hadron -
>>> can
>>> you do so? With a quick Googling I found no such quote, but I do not
>>> know the details.
>>
>> "perfect as possible" was the quote I think.
>
> No it wasn't you lying little ****.
>
>> I really can not be
>> bothered.
>
> Of course you don't you ****ing liar. You misrepresent and then you ****ing
> run away you cowardly, grovelling, lying little turd.
>
>> Slight variations aside, Gregory will jus huff and puff and
>> deny it all any way as is his wont. He is, as someone said, a
>> dinosaur. He really did say that usenet readers should read the nntp
>> spec.
>
> I said no such thing you ****ing liar.
>
> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking cowardly ****ing liar?
>
>> He also said he didn't want Linux getting any better in case the
>> wrong kind of people used it.
>
> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking little turd?
>
>> He also said that he thought consistent UIs
>> were a waste of a programmer's time. He is truly clueless and I'm not
>> going to feed his "insult,swear and run indenial" tactics.
>
> Show us the quote you ****ing liar...

Don't hold your breath, the Quack troll never backs his claims up with proof.
He'd sooner troll, lie, & make things up.

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Gregory Shearman espoused:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Gregory Shearman on Sunday 30 March 2008 07:40 : \____
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> chrisv writes:
>>>>
>>>>>>DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NO ONE could POSSIBLY think that ANY OS is
>>>>>>>> "perfect". Only a fscking true ASSHOLE and LIAR would claim that
>>>>>>>> ANYONE thinks that ANY OS is "perfect".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already went over this, moron.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not only did cola bozo Greg Shearman insist over and over that Linux
>>>>>>> is perfect,
>>>>>
>>>>> NO ONE could POSSIBLY think that ANY OS is
>>>>> "perfect". Only a fscking true ASSHOLE and LIAR would claim that
>>>>> ANYONE thinks that ANY OS is "perfect".
>>>>>
>>>>> Get that, Quack and DumFSck?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard, and
>>>> conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>
>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>
>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>
>>> **** you.
>>
>> They are not worth the anger, Gregory. That's what they try to do when
>> they provoke. Just add them to your filter and forget them for good.
>>
>
> Yeah... There they go.
>

Best place for them. They're entirely devoted to disrupting this space,
and using any technique they can find to irritate and annoy. If you
show any kind of weakness at all, they'll go in for the kill, rather
like schoolchildren in a playground taunting & bullying environment.

I prefer to focus on advocacy, which is what this group is for, and let
the troll-feeders trollfeed invisibly to me. It's a little sad that I
end up not seeing some posters whom I believe have some good things to
say, but I'd rather not see the shills and trolls at all, myself.

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"Gregory Shearman" stated in post
1969282.H85g60YRGo@netscape.net on 3/31/08 4:32 AM:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Snit writes:
>>
>>> "Gregory Shearman" stated in post
>>> 1469108.oGTMoc2jXL@netscape.net on 3/29/08 11:40 PM:
>>>
>>>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard,
>>>>> and conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>
>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>
>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>
>>>> **** you.
>>>
>>> Let us not pretend you are not actively denying other quotes that have
>>> been shown about you - I can see why someone would not spend time looking
>>> for a quote to satisfy your request when it is clear your habit is to
>>> dishonestly deny the quotes anyway?
>>>
>>> Still, I have not seen the quote of you saying that Linux is perfect -
>>> and
>>> would like Hadron to show where you did and defend his claim. Hadron -
>>> can
>>> you do so? With a quick Googling I found no such quote, but I do not
>>> know the details.
>>
>> "perfect as possible" was the quote I think.
>
> No it wasn't you lying little ****.
>
>> I really can not be
>> bothered.
>
> Of course you don't you ****ing liar. You misrepresent and then you ****ing
> run away you cowardly, grovelling, lying little turd.
>
>> Slight variations aside, Gregory will jus huff and puff and
>> deny it all any way as is his wont. He is, as someone said, a
>> dinosaur. He really did say that usenet readers should read the nntp
>> spec.
>
> I said no such thing you ****ing liar.
>
> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking cowardly ****ing liar?
>
>> He also said he didn't want Linux getting any better in case the
>> wrong kind of people used it.
>
> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking little turd?
>
>> He also said that he thought consistent UIs
>> were a waste of a programmer's time. He is truly clueless and I'm not
>> going to feed his "insult,swear and run indenial" tactics.
>
> Show us the quote you ****ing liar...
>
He, if anything, exxagerated your view a bit.

You outright lied about me saying Ubuntu does not have a built in print to
PDF driver.

Will you apologize or prove you are a hypocrite?

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I'm not saying that this is always true, but in many cases the user
interface to a program is the most important part for a commercial
company..." Linus Torvalds

Snit writes:

> "Gregory Shearman" stated in post
> 1969282.H85g60YRGo@netscape.net on 3/31/08 4:32 AM:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Snit writes:
>>>
>>>> "Gregory Shearman" stated in post
>>>> 1469108.oGTMoc2jXL@netscape.net on 3/29/08 11:40 PM:
>>>>
>>>>>> Gregory Shearman is on record as saying Linux is as perfect as
>>>>>> possible. One of the more clownish of his many "zany" contributions to
>>>>>> this group and Linux advocacy - up there with not wanting it to get any
>>>>>> better since it "works for him", Grannies reading the nntp standard,
>>>>>> and conforming to UI standards being a waste of time and effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where's the ****ing quote you lying little turd?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on record? Show us the ****ing record you lying ****ing troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> **** you.
>>>>
>>>> Let us not pretend you are not actively denying other quotes that have
>>>> been shown about you - I can see why someone would not spend time looking
>>>> for a quote to satisfy your request when it is clear your habit is to
>>>> dishonestly deny the quotes anyway?
>>>>
>>>> Still, I have not seen the quote of you saying that Linux is perfect -
>>>> and
>>>> would like Hadron to show where you did and defend his claim. Hadron -
>>>> can
>>>> you do so? With a quick Googling I found no such quote, but I do not
>>>> know the details.
>>>
>>> "perfect as possible" was the quote I think.
>>
>> No it wasn't you lying little ****.
>>
>>> I really can not be
>>> bothered.
>>
>> Of course you don't you ****ing liar. You misrepresent and then you ****ing
>> run away you cowardly, grovelling, lying little turd.
>>
>>> Slight variations aside, Gregory will jus huff and puff and
>>> deny it all any way as is his wont. He is, as someone said, a
>>> dinosaur. He really did say that usenet readers should read the nntp
>>> spec.
>>
>> I said no such thing you ****ing liar.
>>
>> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking cowardly ****ing liar?
>>
>>> He also said he didn't want Linux getting any better in case the
>>> wrong kind of people used it.
>>
>> Where's the ****ing quote you stinking little turd?
>>
>>> He also said that he thought consistent UIs
>>> were a waste of a programmer's time. He is truly clueless and I'm not
>>> going to feed his "insult,swear and run indenial" tactics.
>>
>> Show us the quote you ****ing liar...
>>
> He, if anything, exxagerated your view a bit.

A bit possibly. A lot? No. I can back up all of the above. But I
won't. Gregory likes to give it out but he doesn't like it back -
especially when (as you have done) it is so easy to prove that he's full
of **** and about as likely to be recruited into a SW development team
as a Bear is not to **** in the woods.

>
> You outright lied about me saying Ubuntu does not have a built in print to
> PDF driver.
>
> Will you apologize or prove you are a hypocrite?

He has already proven he is a hypocrite. The question still remains as
to whether he is man enough to apologise for his gross lies and
misrepresentations of what you said.

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"Hadron" stated in post
fsqt2m$d12$3@registered.motzarella.org on 3/31/08 7:39 AM:

>> He, if anything, exxagerated your view a bit.
>
> A bit possibly. A lot? No. I can back up all of the above. But I
> won't. Gregory likes to give it out but he doesn't like it back -
> especially when (as you have done) it is so easy to prove that he's full
> of **** and about as likely to be recruited into a SW development team
> as a Bear is not to **** in the woods.
>
>>
>> You outright lied about me saying Ubuntu does not have a built in print to
>> PDF driver.
>>
>> Will you apologize or prove you are a hypocrite?
>
> He has already proven he is a hypocrite. The question still remains as
> to whether he is man enough to apologise for his gross lies and
> misrepresentations of what you said.

Frankly I disagree - I do not think that question still remains. He simple
is not enough of an adult to apologize or even acknowledge his fabrications
about me.


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that take our breath away.

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:40:27 +1100,
Gregory Shearman wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> And surprised there are bugs in a beta version. Who'd a thunk it.
>>>
>>> Don't the Wintrolls think that Vista is "perfect"?
>>>
>>> No, of course they do NOT. NO ONE could POSSIBLY think that ANY OS is
>>> "perfect". Only a fscking true ASSHOLE and LIAR would claim that
>>> ANYONE thinks that ANY OS is "perfect".
>>>
>>> Get that, Quack and DumFSck?
>>
>> We already went over this, moron.
>>
>> Not only did cola bozo Greg Shearman insist over and over that Linux is
>> perfect, but many tens of thousands of you lying lusers proclaim "Linux is
>> perfect for..."
>
> Then you would be able to find a quote of me saying so very easy.
>
> How about it? Come on.. Show us a quote.
>
> Of course you ****ing can't... you and Hadron and your little knitting
> circle are all having a big "groupthink", distorting reality to new levels
> of absurdity.
>

1) Trolls lie

2) DFS is a troll. See point 1.


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