It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name." - Linux

This is a discussion on It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name." - Linux ; http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074 The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's position on Iraq, as a ...

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."

  1. It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."


    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074


    The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's position
    on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European cities in
    favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other words, that had
    nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical needs.


    In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product, then
    SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was eventually
    forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities initiative in the
    German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed some SuSe debts,
    invested $50 million plus a promise of future business in Novell, and
    gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian Linux as SuSe's
    replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed with an anti-Bush
    strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one not to fail too
    publicly.

    In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work on
    both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel and
    the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support headache
    for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in all but
    name.






  2. Re: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."

    Subway steel wrote:

    >
    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074
    >
    >
    > The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    > place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    > anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's
    > position on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European
    > cities in favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other
    > words, that had nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical
    > needs.
    >
    >
    > In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product,
    > then SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was
    > eventually forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities
    > initiative in the German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed
    > some SuSe debts, invested $50 million plus a promise of future business in
    > Novell, and gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian
    > Linux as SuSe's replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed
    > with an anti-Bush strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one
    > not to fail too publicly.
    >
    > In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    > pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work
    > on both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    > further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel
    > and the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support
    > headache for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in
    > all but name.
    >
    >


    When will you start to post something which is actually true?
    Nothing of that garbage was even remotely connected to the truth
    --
    Microsoft's Guide To System Design:
    Let it get in YOUR way. The problem for your problem.


  3. Re: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."


    "Peter Köhlmann" wrote in message
    news:frm7a5$68f$03$1@news.t-online.com...
    > Subway steel wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074
    >>
    >>
    >> The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    >> place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    >> anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's
    >> position on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European
    >> cities in favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other
    >> words, that had nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical
    >> needs.
    >>
    >>
    >> In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product,
    >> then SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was
    >> eventually forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities
    >> initiative in the German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed
    >> some SuSe debts, invested $50 million plus a promise of future business
    >> in
    >> Novell, and gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian
    >> Linux as SuSe's replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed
    >> with an anti-Bush strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one
    >> not to fail too publicly.
    >>
    >> In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    >> pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work
    >> on both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    >> further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel
    >> and the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support
    >> headache for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in
    >> all but name.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > When will you start to post something which is actually true?
    > Nothing of that garbage was even remotely connected to the truth



    It's all true. Deny it if you dare but you know it's true, I know it's true
    and the world knows it's true. Everything that is written here can be
    verified by a independent neutral third party. So run along. But if you must
    stay, at least educate yourself on this latest massive linux failure.


    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074


    The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's position
    on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European cities in
    favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other words, that had
    nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical needs.

    In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product, then
    SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was eventually
    forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities initiative in the
    German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed some SuSe debts,
    invested $50 million plus a promise of future business in Novell, and
    gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian Linux as SuSe's
    replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed with an anti-Bush
    strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one not to fail too
    publicly.

    In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work on
    both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel and
    the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support headache
    for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in all but
    name.





  4. Re: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:04:40 -0400, Subway steel wrote:

    > "Peter Köhlmann" wrote in message
    > news:frm7a5$68f$03$1@news.t-online.com...
    >> Subway steel wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    >>> place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    >>> anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's
    >>> position on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European
    >>> cities in favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other
    >>> words, that had nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical
    >>> needs.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product,
    >>> then SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was
    >>> eventually forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities
    >>> initiative in the German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed
    >>> some SuSe debts, invested $50 million plus a promise of future business
    >>> in
    >>> Novell, and gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian
    >>> Linux as SuSe's replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed
    >>> with an anti-Bush strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one
    >>> not to fail too publicly.
    >>>
    >>> In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    >>> pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work
    >>> on both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    >>> further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel
    >>> and the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support
    >>> headache for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in
    >>> all but name.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> When will you start to post something which is actually true?
    >> Nothing of that garbage was even remotely connected to the truth

    >
    >
    > It's all true. Deny it if you dare but you know it's true, I know it's true
    > and the world knows it's true. Everything that is written here can be
    > verified by a independent neutral third party. So run along. But if you must
    > stay, at least educate yourself on this latest massive linux failure.
    >
    >
    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1074
    >
    >
    > The folks in Munich had even worse problems. As put together in the first
    > place the deal resulted from an IBM sales initiative to use European
    > anti-Americanism as crystallized by opposition to President Bush's position
    > on Iraq, as a lever to push Microsoft products out of European cities in
    > favor of its own Linux services - a political sale, in other words, that had
    > nothing to do with Linux or the customer's technical needs.
    >
    > In Germany, IBM's chosen Linux partner was SuSe Linux Ag. The product, then
    > SuSe 7.0, was rock solid - but the company was not and IBM was eventually
    > forced to choose between buying it and closing its cities initiative in the
    > German speaking countries... As a result IBM assumed some SuSe debts,
    > invested $50 million plus a promise of future business in Novell, and
    > gambled on recouping momentum... Munich later selected Debian Linux as SuSe's
    > replacement, but by then the political drive to succeed with an anti-Bush
    > strategy had been supplanted by a different drive: one not to fail too
    > publicly.
    >
    > In late 2006 the consultants were largely responsible for operations, the
    > pitch to users continued to be that the change would change nothing, work on
    > both the interfaces and the custom client continued to get further and
    > further behind, and continued "customizations" on both the Linux kernel and
    > the openoffice applications was creating an enormous future support headache
    > for the client. By late 2007 the project was dead - abandoned in all but
    > name.
    >
    >


    The Linux advocates simply cannot accept anything negative toward Linux.
    For them it's like trying to divide by zero.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  5. Re: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned inall but name."

    Peter Köhlmann wrote:

    > When will you start to post something which is actually true?
    > Nothing of that garbage was even remotely connected to the truth


    When will ___ start to post something which is actually true and important?

  6. Re: It's official - Munich Linux migration is "dead - abandoned in all but name."


+ Reply to Thread