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This is a discussion on The newcomer to Linux - Linux ; Hadron wrote: > Thufir writes: > >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:33:17 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> Heck, clearly more people prefer Windows or even OS X to *all* distros >>> of Linux combined, at least for the desktop. ...

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  1. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Hadron wrote:

    > Thufir writes:
    >
    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:33:17 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >>
    >>> Heck, clearly more people prefer Windows or even OS X to *all* distros
    >>> of Linux combined, at least for the desktop.

    >>
    >> Would you ****ing stop advocating Mac's in cola?

    >
    > Telling the truth is NOT advocating.


    In other words, you need to lie to "advocate". Well, that explains
    your "true linux advocacy" to the point

    Apart from the fact that Snot has yet to tell his very first truth

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  2. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:13:37 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:


    > Like I said, I call them as I see them and PCLinuxOS is a good one.
    > So is Ubuntu, just not for me.


    Have you tried the new GNOME version of PCLinuxOS? It's not bad at all.
    Goes well on my old Compaq slap.

    --
    Kier


  3. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:00:33 +0100, Hadron wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Did Roy put him in charge or something?

    >
    > Schestowitz doesn't put *anyone* in charge of anything because only Roy
    > Schestowitz can do the job correctly.
    > Everyone else is beneath him.


    No one is 'in charge here'.

    --
    Kier


  4. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    "Hadron" stated in post
    fokbj7$9nh$1@registered.motzarella.org on 2/9/08 6:59 AM:

    > Thufir writes:
    >
    >> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:33:17 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >>
    >>> Heck, clearly more people prefer Windows or even OS X to *all* distros
    >>> of Linux combined, at least for the desktop.

    >>
    >> Would you ****ing stop advocating Mac's in cola?

    >
    > Telling the truth is NOT advocating. When will yo realize that? It is
    > facing up to reality. Because people prefer Windows doesnt mean it has
    > to stay that way - advocate man, dont prevaricate.


    Well, if I were to avoid the topic of Linux (as, say, Rick does) and focus
    on the benefits of another OS, even if not on topic, that would not be
    right.

    But I do not do that... and if I did Thurfir would not have the need to snip
    all context as he did.

    To be clear: he is lying.


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    Is Swiss cheese made out of hole milk?


  5. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:53:57 +0000, 7 wrote:

    (snip)
    >
    > Personally, I have found it more easy to get Ubuntu on a lot more
    > machines. So something about PCLinuxOS is a lie all knitted together by
    > asstroturfers to cover up something?


    I am not an astroturfer, and I find PCLOS easy to use and install.
    --
    Rick

  6. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:43:14 +0000, Kier wrote:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:00:33 +0100, Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Did Roy put him in charge or something?

    >>
    >> Schestowitz doesn't put *anyone* in charge of anything because only Roy
    >> Schestowitz can do the job correctly.
    >> Everyone else is beneath him.

    >
    > No one is 'in charge here'.


    Maybe not officially, but in some peoples minds, they are in charge.
    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  7. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:42:43 +0000, Kier wrote:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:13:37 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Like I said, I call them as I see them and PCLinuxOS is a good one.
    >> So is Ubuntu, just not for me.

    >
    > Have you tried the new GNOME version of PCLinuxOS? It's not bad at all.
    > Goes well on my old Compaq slap.


    No I haven't.
    I'll give it a try later.
    I'm not a big gnome fan though.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  8. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:06:42 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:43:14 +0000, Kier wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:00:33 +0100, Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Did Roy put him in charge or something?
    >>>
    >>> Schestowitz doesn't put *anyone* in charge of anything because only Roy
    >>> Schestowitz can do the job correctly.
    >>> Everyone else is beneath him.

    >>
    >> No one is 'in charge here'.

    >
    > Maybe not officially, but in some peoples minds, they are in charge.


    If so, they are wrong. No one is in charge here.

    --
    Kier


  9. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Kier writes:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:06:42 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:43:14 +0000, Kier wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:00:33 +0100, Hadron wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> Did Roy put him in charge or something?
    >>>>
    >>>> Schestowitz doesn't put *anyone* in charge of anything because only Roy
    >>>> Schestowitz can do the job correctly.
    >>>> Everyone else is beneath him.
    >>>
    >>> No one is 'in charge here'.

    >>
    >> Maybe not officially, but in some peoples minds, they are in charge.

    >
    > If so, they are wrong. No one is in charge here.


    Who says? Who put YOU in charge?

  10. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Tony(UK) wrote:

    > When it comes, users will flock to Linux in droves. So please, all you
    > clever people, listen, don't fight, except for the cause: to give us
    > newcomers what we desperately need.
    > The one!


    There isn't a "one." Either stick with the distribution you have, learn
    enough to customize it to taste, or do a lot downloading and choose your
    favorite distribution. That's what I did -- then settled with SuSE 10.3.
    But there's a ton of reasons why others like other distributions better.
    And I may even choose another distribution for a different use -- or a
    different computer. Think choice -- think freedom. No reason to put your
    brain in neutral and let someone else do your thinking for you.

    --
    RonB
    "There's a story there...somewhere"

  11. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    "RonB" stated in post
    Duwrj.1340$OZ7.961@newsfe05.lga on 2/9/08 11:03 PM:

    > Tony(UK) wrote:
    >
    >> When it comes, users will flock to Linux in droves. So please, all you
    >> clever people, listen, don't fight, except for the cause: to give us
    >> newcomers what we desperately need.
    >> The one!

    >
    > There isn't a "one." Either stick with the distribution you have, learn
    > enough to customize it to taste, or do a lot downloading and choose your
    > favorite distribution. That's what I did -- then settled with SuSE 10.3.
    > But there's a ton of reasons why others like other distributions better.
    > And I may even choose another distribution for a different use -- or a
    > different computer. Think choice -- think freedom. No reason to put your
    > brain in neutral and let someone else do your thinking for you.


    Some folks just want to use the computer as a tool and not have to dance the
    dance.


    --
    Picture of a tuna soda: http://snipurl.com/f351
    Feel free to ask for the recipe.




  12. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Hadron wrote:

    > Kier writes:
    >
    >> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:06:42 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:43:14 +0000, Kier wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:00:33 +0100, Hadron wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Did Roy put him in charge or something?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Schestowitz doesn't put *anyone* in charge of anything because only
    >>>>> Roy Schestowitz can do the job correctly.
    >>>>> Everyone else is beneath him.
    >>>>
    >>>> No one is 'in charge here'.
    >>>
    >>> Maybe not officially, but in some peoples minds, they are in charge.

    >>
    >> If so, they are wrong. No one is in charge here.

    >
    > Who says? Who put YOU in charge?


    Nobody. He himself has said that "no one is in charge" here

    Your usual reading comprehension problem showing up again, "true linux
    advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
    specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
    professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
    coordinator", "email sage" and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron
    Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary

    --
    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice which can be equally well
    explained by stupidity


  13. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:59:01 +0100, Hadron wrote:

    >> Would you ****ing stop advocating Mac's in cola?

    >
    > Telling the truth is NOT advocating. When will yo realize that? It is
    > facing up to reality. Because people prefer Windows doesnt mean it has
    > to stay that way - advocate man, dont prevaricate.


    His whole purpose is to give a backhanded compliment to Linux as he
    advocates macs -- which is what mac advocacy groups are for.


    -Thufir

  14. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:11 -0700, Snit wrote:

    > "Thufir" stated in post
    > i9crj.9170$FA.2230@pd7urf2no on 2/8/08 11:57 PM:
    >
    >>>>>> Try PCLinux OS.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I would love to hear the reaction.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It is, of course, a *lot* more pretty... so superficially it is done
    >>>>> better and that appeals to some people.
    >>>>
    >>>> And AGAIN, it gets great reviews and is #1 on distrowatch... still.
    >>>
    >>> You keep saying that as though you thought you were defending your
    >>> little pet distro. Odd. Sad how all you can do is point to what you
    >>> think others think - you cannot show any thought of your own.
    >>>
    >>> Heck, clearly more people prefer Windows or even OS X to *all* distros
    >>> of Linux combined, at least for the desktop. Do you think they are
    >>> better?

    >>
    >> Would you ****ing stop advocating Mac's in cola?

    >
    > Er? Did you read what you responded to? I did add back some of the
    > context you snipped - hopefully that will encourage you to become
    > honest.



    Snot, you're a ****ing idiot. Do see the part above, where I quoted you
    stating:

    "Thufir" stated in post i9crj.9170
    $FA.2230@pd7urf2no on 2/8/08 11:57 PM

    then you proceed to misquote me? When you *change* what I wrote, when
    you *put* words into my posts, thats a form of forgery, you ****.

    If you want to reply to a post, go ahead, but don't ****ing alter quoted
    text -- meaning "fixing" what I quoted.

    You're totally dishonest. If you think that I quoted you out of context,
    fine, bitch about it. Don't ****ing alter my posts and claim that I
    wrote stuff *which I never wrote*.

    Yes, yes, you're going to claim, "well, I was just fixing your snip of
    what I wrote," but, what you actually did was to state that I wrote
    something which I didn't. Blah, blah, blah.

    Selectively quoting is *entirely* different from altering posts. You've
    repeatedly altered posts.


    -Thufir

  15. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Thufir wrote:

    > Selectively quoting is entirely different from altering posts. *You've
    > repeatedly altered posts.


    Snit is a troll. Even if he doesn't alter the words in your post, he
    consistently alters the *meaning* of what of what you write. That's his
    stock and troll trade.

    Use the killfile.

    --
    RonB
    "There's a story there...somewhere"

  16. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:11:27 +0000, Rick wrote:


    > I see. It is OK for you to snip context related lines, but not for
    > others. OK.


    He's not snipping posts, he's ****ing "correcting" them, ie: forgery.


    -Thufir

  17. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    Thufir wrote:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:11:27 +0000, Rick wrote:
    >
    >
    >> I see. It is OK for you to snip context related lines, but not for
    >> others. OK.

    >
    > He's not snipping posts, he's ****ing "correcting" them, ie: forgery.
    >


    When he does not do *that*, he creativly snips, all the while whining
    how "dishonest snipping" took place.
    Then he continues to place words in peoples mouth they never said and
    repeatedly told him what they said, Snot ignoring all that.
    After that he starts to insert irrelevant crap "from recent posts" or
    inserts doctored (by himself) evidence
    He has done that same routine for years, and he is the most hated troll in
    Mac groups for that. He is living dishonesty, nobody else is so
    outraguoulsy dishonest like Snot Michael Glasser

    For that reason, it is best to completely killfile that asshole, to a level
    where you don't even see that he has posted at all

    Naturally the resident filth like flatfish or Hadron Quark will quote
    (preferrably all of it) his bull**** and support his cretinous view.
    Because he is a fellow troll, and they make his garbage visible again that
    way
    --
    Linux is for people who want to know why it works.
    Mac is for people who don't want to know why it works.
    DOS is for people who want to know why it does not work.
    Windows is for people who don't want to know why it does not work.


  18. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    RonB writes:

    > Tony(UK) wrote:
    >
    >> When it comes, users will flock to Linux in droves. So please, all you
    >> clever people, listen, don't fight, except for the cause: to give us
    >> newcomers what we desperately need.
    >> The one!

    >
    > There isn't a "one." Either stick with the distribution you have, learn
    > enough to customize it to taste, or do a lot downloading and choose your
    > favorite distribution. That's what I did -- then settled with SuSE 10.3.
    > But there's a ton of reasons why others like other distributions better.
    > And I may even choose another distribution for a different use -- or a


    What "different use" would another distro be better for than you using
    your existing knowledge to customise the one you know well?

    > different computer. Think choice -- think freedom. No reason to put your
    > brain in neutral and let someone else do your thinking for you.



  19. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    RonB wrote:

    > Thufir wrote:
    >
    >> Selectively quoting is entirely different from altering posts. *You've
    >> repeatedly altered posts.

    >
    > Snit is a troll. Even if he doesn't alter the words in your post, he
    > consistently alters the *meaning* of what of what you write. That's his
    > stock and troll trade.


    Hadron Quack does the same thing, & even makes things up about what people
    supposedly said.

    > Use the killfile.



    --
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    Linux systems: PCLOS 2007, Mandrake One 2008,
    Fedora 8, Kubuntu 7.10.
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  20. Re: The newcomer to Linux

    "Thufir" stated in post
    Gozrj.11957$FA.620@pd7urf2no on 2/10/08 2:23 AM:

    > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:11 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >
    >> "Thufir" stated in post
    >> i9crj.9170$FA.2230@pd7urf2no on 2/8/08 11:57 PM:
    >>
    >>>>>>> Try PCLinux OS.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I would love to hear the reaction.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It is, of course, a *lot* more pretty... so superficially it is done
    >>>>>> better and that appeals to some people.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And AGAIN, it gets great reviews and is #1 on distrowatch... still.
    >>>>
    >>>> You keep saying that as though you thought you were defending your
    >>>> little pet distro. Odd. Sad how all you can do is point to what you
    >>>> think others think - you cannot show any thought of your own.
    >>>>
    >>>> Heck, clearly more people prefer Windows or even OS X to *all* distros
    >>>> of Linux combined, at least for the desktop. Do you think they are
    >>>> better?
    >>>
    >>> Would you ****ing stop advocating Mac's in cola?

    >>
    >> Er? Did you read what you responded to? I did add back some of the
    >> context you snipped - hopefully that will encourage you to become
    >> honest.


    ....

    > "Thufir" stated in post i9crj.9170
    > $FA.2230@pd7urf2no on 2/8/08 11:57 PM
    >
    > then you proceed to misquote me? When you *change* what I wrote, when
    > you *put* words into my posts, thats a form of forgery, you ****.


    There is nothing wrong with returned the context when you dishonestly snip
    it.

    > If you want to reply to a post, go ahead, but don't ****ing alter quoted
    > text -- meaning "fixing" what I quoted.


    Stop dishonestly snipping and there will be no need to return the context
    you dishonestly snip.

    > You're totally dishonest. If you think that I quoted you out of context,
    > fine, bitch about it. Don't ****ing alter my posts and claim that I
    > wrote stuff *which I never wrote*.
    >
    > Yes, yes, you're going to claim, "well, I was just fixing your snip of
    > what I wrote," but, what you actually did was to state that I wrote
    > something which I didn't. Blah, blah, blah.
    >
    > Selectively quoting is *entirely* different from altering posts. You've
    > repeatedly altered posts.


    You lied. I busted you. You freaked out. End of story.



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