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This is a discussion on Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead...... - Linux ; hymen.the.jew.@gmail.com wrote: > One total asshole over in comp.os.linux.advocacy posts thousands of > messages a month to the group and very few get replies except from his > shills, Homer, Mark Kent and William Poaster. > Another poster posts a ...

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  1. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    hymen.the.jew.@gmail.com wrote:

    > One total asshole over in comp.os.linux.advocacy posts thousands of
    > messages a month to the group and very few get replies except from his
    > shills, Homer, Mark Kent and William Poaster.
    > Another poster posts a couple of messages with topics like 'Linux is
    > free, Windows is not' and 'People would rather pay for Windows than
    > get Linux for free' and instantly they get hundreds of replies while
    > the so called Linux advocates messages get 3 at best replies and those
    > three are the same three people talking to each other.
    >
    > Don't believe it?
    > Go look for yourself.
    >
    > Linux advocacy is deader than yesterday's news about Brittany Spears.
    > She bombed at the MTV awards in case you have not heard.
    >
    > BTW here is that posters google stats, which are sicko if you ask me,
    > get a life already:
    >
    > Post Activity


    Results summarised for brevity:

    > Year Total
    > 2004 221
    > 2005 4,230
    > 2006 18,439
    > 2007 14,941
    >
    > I guess he had to work as a fresher fluffer in Sept so he is behind
    > the 'Mark', literally....
    >
    > http://www.digg.com/users/schestowitz/news/dugg/page20
    >
    > Like I said, sick.


    Interesting, there is nothing else to attack, seeing Linux has already
    won. Now he/she/it attacks the messenger, quite odd.

    Get over it, Linux advocacy is alive and well.

    --
    HPT


  2. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    High Plains Thumper wrote:

    >> Post Activity [of Roy Schestowitz]

    >
    > Results summarised for brevity:
    >
    >> Year Total
    >> 2006 18,439
    >> 2007 14,941


    Gawd! For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. And not a single
    cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.



    >> I guess he had to work as a fresher fluffer in Sept so he is behind
    >> the 'Mark', literally....
    >>
    >> http://www.digg.com/users/schestowitz/news/dugg/page20
    >>
    >> Like I said, sick.


    It is. In his defense, less than 100% of his spam contained lies about
    Windows.



    > Interesting, there is nothing else to attack, seeing Linux has already
    > won.


    Several other cola wacks have made this absurd claim. And then they slink
    away when asked "What did Linux win?"



    > Get over it, Linux advocacy is alive and well.


    Such as it is: flyer, 7, Rex Ballard, HPT, Roy [H]omer Kent, et al


    And before I forget: Unix engineering workstation quality




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    DFS wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >>> Post Activity [of Roy Schestowitz]

    >>
    >> Results summarised for brevity:
    >>
    >>> Year Total
    >>> 2006 18,439
    >>> 2007 14,941

    >
    > Gawd! For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. And
    > not a single cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.


    Wah lau, eh! You don like his posts? Most are news post
    excerpts that have been especially delineated with "[NEWS]", so
    one can conveniently filter out. Still trying to figure out
    filtering in Outlook Express, meh?

    >>> I guess he had to work as a fresher fluffer in Sept so he
    >>> is behind the 'Mark', literally....
    >>>
    >>> http://www.digg.com/users/schestowitz/news/dugg/page20
    >>>
    >>> Like I said, sick.

    >
    > It is. In his defense, less than 100% of his spam contained
    > lies about Windows.


    According to YOU, anything that is pro Linux is Windows spam.
    Anything that is negative about Windows or the Microsoft
    corporation but true is spam.

    >> Interesting, there is nothing else to attack, seeing Linux
    >> has already won.

    >
    > Several other cola wacks have made this absurd claim. And
    > then they slink away when asked "What did Linux win?"


    If you took off your blinders, you'd see.

    >> Get over it, Linux advocacy is alive and well.

    >
    > Such as it is: flyer, 7, Rex Ballard, HPT, Roy [H]omer Kent,
    > et al
    >
    > And before I forget: Unix engineering workstation quality


    Those who had the chance to work on an engineering workstation
    level product in the mid 80's and on know exactly what I mean.
    Those systems were not cheap, around $25K, when a base-line name
    brand Windows 80268 AT clone system were a couple thou US. Unix
    GUI made Windows 3.x look extremely amateurish.

    Graphics were fantastic, but at the price one would expect that.
    My first experiences nearly a decade ago with Linux were with
    RedHat 6.0 and Gnome. I was amazed at the high quality user
    interface appearance, icons, graphics, multiple desktops, etc.
    That experience was a throwback to my experiences on engineering
    workstations.

    Then I experienced KDE 1.0 on SuSE 5.3 and Corel Linux 1.0.
    Compared with Windows 95 and OSR2, 98, NT 4.0, etc. at the time,
    the Gnome and KDE interfaces even then were vastly superior.
    Icons were more polished, I could adjust the size, video action
    was more fluid on my 450 MHz AMD K6-2 Ampro 9900 at home and my
    Intel Pentium II systems at work than the Windows environment.

    To boot, because the workstations were expensive, we had DEC
    VT100's connected in serially. One could work in shell mode for
    stuff that did not require graphics. Desktop office automation
    software supported text terminals in addition to graphical, so
    one could type their reports, spreadsheet, data base stuff, etc.

    But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)

    --
    HPT

  4. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    DFS wrote:

    > Gawd! *For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. *And not a
    > single cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.
    >


    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

    --
    Regards,

    Gregory.
    Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

  5. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    Gregory Shearman wrote:

    > DFS wrote:
    >
    >> Gawd! *For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. *And not a
    >> single cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.
    >>

    >
    > Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.


    Uh, oh...you mentioned black. DooFu$ will be donning his KKK suit as we
    post...

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  6. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out this bit o' wisdom:

    > But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    > mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    > You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)


    Hint: Visual Basic isn't BASIC.

    --
    Tux rox!

  7. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    Linonut writes:

    > After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out this bit o' wisdom:
    >
    >> But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    >> mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    >> You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)

    >
    > Hint: Visual Basic isn't BASIC.


    Yes it is. It is a derivative. There is no single "BASIC".

    --
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  8. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    Verily I say unto thee, that High Plains Thumper spake thusly:
    > DFS wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>
    >>>> Post Activity [of Roy Schestowitz]
    >>>
    >>> Results summarised for brevity:
    >>>
    >>>> Year Total
    >>>> 2006 18,439
    >>>> 2007 14,941

    >>
    >> Gawd! For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. And
    >> not a single cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.

    >
    > Wah lau, eh! You don't like his posts?


    Apparently not, which means they are obviously having the desired
    effect. Well done Roy.

    As for "sick obsession" ... let's see:

    On the one side we have Roy, who is dedicated to GNU/Linux, and dislikes
    the competition (primarily Microsoft), and thus posts advocacy posts
    which promote GNU/Linux and demote Microsoft. Sounds fair enough.

    On the other side we have DooFy, a money-obsessed goon who creates
    database "apps" using point 'n click toys and crayons, and devotes the
    rest of his day to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to something he
    despises (Linux), because its proponents fail to live up to his
    expectations of exploitation and greed.

    Which of the above two posters really has the "sick obsession"?

    Hmm.

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  9. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    It was on, or about, Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:08:21 +0100, that as I was
    halfway through a large jam doughnut, [H]omer wrote:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that High Plains Thumper spake thusly:
    >> DFS wrote:
    >>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> Post Activity [of Roy Schestowitz]
    >>>>
    >>>> Results summarised for brevity:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Year Total
    >>>>> 2006 18,439
    >>>>> 2007 14,941
    >>>
    >>> Gawd! For 2006 that's 50 posts per day, 365 days a year. And not a
    >>> single cola "advocate" questions the sick obsession.

    >>
    >> Wah lau, eh! You don't like his posts?

    >
    > Apparently not, which means they are obviously having the desired
    > effect. Well done Roy.
    >
    > As for "sick obsession" ... let's see:
    >
    > On the one side we have Roy, who is dedicated to GNU/Linux, and dislikes
    > the competition (primarily Microsoft), and thus posts advocacy posts
    > which promote GNU/Linux and demote Microsoft. Sounds fair enough.
    >
    > On the other side we have DooFy, a money-obsessed goon who creates
    > database "apps" using point 'n click toys and crayons, and devotes the
    > rest of his day to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to something he
    > despises (Linux), because its proponents fail to live up to his
    > expectations of exploitation and greed.
    >
    > Which of the above two posters really has the "sick obsession"?
    >
    > Hmm.


    Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?

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    Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:

    > Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?


    LOL!

    That'd be like me buying a copy of "RAD Developer Monthly" just to get
    the free crayons on the cover.

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    | - GNU/Linux traitor, Miguel de Icaza.
    `----

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  11. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    "[H]omer" writes:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:
    >
    >> Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?

    >
    > LOL!
    >
    > That'd be like me buying a copy of "RAD Developer Monthly" just to get
    > the free crayons on the cover.


    It does make me chuckle when you cretins start a group "LOL". At you of
    course. Not with you.

    --
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    estrellas.
    -- Vincent Van Gogh. (1853-1890) Pintor impresionista holandés.

  12. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    [H]omer wrote:

    > On the other side we have DooFy, a money-obsessed goon who
    > creates database "apps" using point 'n click toys and crayons,
    > and devotes the rest of his day to sabotaging a newsgroup
    > dedicated to something he despises (Linux), because its
    > proponents fail to live up to his expectations of exploitation
    > and greed.
    >
    > Which of the above two posters really has the "sick
    > obsession"?
    >
    > Hmm.


    May be if he stopped bashing Linux, Open Source and studied up a
    little, could increase his income as a Linux/Unix programmer.
    OTOH, may be not .....

    --
    HPT

  13. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    Linonut wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper belched:
    >
    >> But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    >> mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    >> You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)

    >
    > Hint: Visual Basic isn't BASIC.


    I was being facetious, din't you notice the smiley?

    --
    HPT

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    Hadron wrote:

    > "[H]omer" writes:
    >
    >> Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:
    >>
    >>> Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?

    >>
    >> LOL!
    >>
    >> That'd be like me buying a copy of "RAD Developer Monthly" just to get
    >> the free crayons on the cover.

    >
    > It does make me chuckle when you cretins start a group "LOL". At you of
    > course. Not with you.
    >


    Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the "true linux
    advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
    specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "newsreader magician"
    and "hardware maven" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary

    --
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    [H]omer wrote:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:
    >
    >> Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?

    >
    > LOL!
    >
    > That'd be like me buying a copy of "RAD Developer Monthly" just to get
    > the free crayons on the cover.


    I kid you not! He buys LinuxFormat (which costs about $16 in the US) just
    to feed his hate obsession.
    After a couple of weeks of him first joining the group, I commented that
    he was either VERY stupid, OR he was being paid by M$ to *deliberately*
    rubbish linux even if he *did* look stupid at times. Some of the posters in
    here poo-pood the idea, but why else would someone devote their time here
    to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to something they despise?

    IMHO they're either sick, or they're being paid.
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    On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:32:22 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

    > [H]omer wrote:
    >
    >> Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:
    >>
    >>> Doofy even buys a magazine about an OS he hates, how idiotic is *that*?

    >>
    >> LOL!
    >>
    >> That'd be like me buying a copy of "RAD Developer Monthly" just to get
    >> the free crayons on the cover.

    >
    > I kid you not! He buys LinuxFormat (which costs about $16 in the US) just
    > to feed his hate obsession.
    > After a couple of weeks of him first joining the group, I commented that
    > he was either VERY stupid, OR he was being paid by M$ to *deliberately*
    > rubbish linux even if he *did* look stupid at times. Some of the posters in
    > here poo-pood the idea, but why else would someone devote their time here
    > to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to something they despise?
    >
    > IMHO they're either sick, or they're being paid.


    And for what reason do trolls in other groups do their trolling? Are they
    being paid, too?

    --
    Kier


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    After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out this bit o' wisdom:

    > Linonut wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper belched:
    >>
    >>> But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    >>> mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    >>> You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)

    >>
    >> Hint: Visual Basic isn't BASIC.

    >
    > I was being facetious, din't you notice the smiley?


    Yeah, but I needed a Google-able nugget.

    --
    Tux rox!

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    Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:

    > Some of the posters in here poo-pood the idea, but why else would
    > someone devote their time here to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to
    > something they despise?
    >
    > IMHO they're either sick, or they're being paid.


    At the very least they're insecure. If GNU/Linux's "tiny market share"
    is no threat to them, then what are they so afraid of?

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  19. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    It was on, or about, Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:36:43 +0100, that as I was
    halfway through a large jam doughnut, [H]omer wrote:

    > Verily I say unto thee, that William Poaster spake thusly:
    >
    >> Some of the posters in here poo-pood the idea, but why else would
    >> someone devote their time here to sabotaging a newsgroup dedicated to
    >> something they despise?
    >>
    >> IMHO they're either sick, or they're being paid.

    >
    > At the very least they're insecure. If GNU/Linux's "tiny market share"
    > is no threat to them, then what are they so afraid of?


    Exactly! *If*. But as M$ went out of their way with the trashy "Get the
    facts", now discredited & pulled, & as Blammer said Linux was the # 1
    threat to M$, I suspect that the "skills" they've learnt with windoze
    aren't up to scratch when it comes to linux. So they're scared. Now you
    watch them deny this....& ask to yourself "Methinks they doth protest too
    much?" (Apologies to WS).

    --
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    (Windows)98? - Hadron aka Hadron Quark, Hans Schneider, & Damian O'Leary
    comp.os.linux.advocacy - Thu, 16 Aug 2007
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  20. Re: Linux Advocacy is completely Dead......

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut

    wrote
    on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:24:50 GMT
    :
    > After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out this bit o' wisdom:
    >
    >> Linonut wrote:
    >>> High Plains Thumper belched:
    >>>
    >>>> But then I forgot, Winvocates don't know how to work in text
    >>>> mode. If you can't see it graphically, you are hopelessly lost.
    >>>> You haven't graduated yet from BASIC (visual, that is). :-)
    >>>
    >>> Hint: Visual Basic isn't BASIC.

    >>
    >> I was being facetious, din't you notice the smiley?

    >
    > Yeah, but I needed a Google-able nugget.
    >


    Just as a bit of personal historical perspective:

    [1] HP Basic. I'm not sure if this is it's official
    name, but basically it was a paper punched tape that
    could be loaded into HP 21xx computer systems (we had
    three: a 2114B, a 211B, and a 21mx, which had brand
    new semiconductor RAM -- a novelty way back then)
    in the late 1970's. Its main claim to fame was the
    extremely limited variable name space; 'A0', 'DIM
    A(10)', and 'A$' are examples thereof. The error
    diagnoistics were appalling by today's standards;
    one had to look up the error codes in a pamphlet.
    "ERROR 76 IN LINE 20", for instance, meant that
    one needed more DATA statements, if memory serves.
    (It's admittedly an improvement over Apple ]['s
    "SYNTAX ERROR" diagnostic, though not by much.)

    And all of this in 16 kB of RAM. (Actually, 8
    kilowords, with each word being 16 bits.) The
    HP 21xx series wasn't even stack based, but we'll
    go into that another time. :-)

    [2] VMS Basic. I don't know the details, but VMS had
    everything else: COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, assembly
    language, at least *two* C compilers, all able to call
    each other.

    [3] Apple ][. Integer-based BASIC with some interesting
    capabilities buried thereinto.

    [4] Apple ///. Floating-point BASIC. This one actually
    innovated the notion of deferring syntax check until
    the program was run. It also made the 'LET' keyword
    optional.

    [5] IBM Basic. There were several variants of this, from
    a ROM-based BASICA in early PCs to a GW-BASIC.

    [6] ABasic. An Amiga-based BASIC variant.

    [7] AmigaBasic. A Microsoft-produced Amiga variant.
    If I'm not mistaken, this one did the no-no of using
    the top 8 bits of the address as an additional storage
    space (since the MC68000 only supported 24 bits
    at most, though used 32 bits for storage). Had the
    general feel (in my opinion) of being a ported product,
    though it supported Intution (Amiga's answer to Win32)
    well enough.

    [8] Visual Basic. Microsoft's more or less de-facto
    standard BASIC. Includes object-oriented concepts
    such as arbitrary method calls, and does not require
    line numbers.

    [9] Chipmunk Basic. I'm not sure what happened to this but
    presumably it's still floating around.

    [10] Gambas. An IDE (blue lobster) with a BASIC
    interpreter. If one can stand slightly cutesy lobsters
    (yes, one can turn it off), this one looks like it
    can do the job reasonably well.

    [11] There are hints of a BASIC# (or mono-basic, as Gentoo
    calls it) in the Gentoo /usr/portage tree, under
    dev-lang.

    [12] The portage tree also includes something
    called "REALBasic". This is apparently trialware,
    with a license key granted by the corporation.

    I don't know offhand if BASIC's been standardized (though
    there's probably an ISO paper floating around), but one
    wonders how many other BASICs there are.

    A quick Google coughed up

    ANSI Standard for Minimal BASIC (X3.60-1978)
    ANSI Standard for Full BASIC (X3.113-1987)
    ISO Standard for Minimal BASIC (ISO 6373:1984 Data processing -
    Programming languages - Minimal BASIC)
    ISO Standard for Full BASIC (ISO/IEC 10279:1991 Information technology -
    Programming languages - Full BASIC)

    (this from http://www.fys.ruu.nl/~bergmann/history.html,
    which is a very abbreviated history of the language).

    A Google on the last ISO standard above coughed up

    http://www.ncits.org/5yr_iso/ISO_IEC_10279-1991.pdf

    which is apparently a photoscanned copy of the document.
    There's not a lot there: 20 pages, 3 of which are
    intentionally blank, and 2 of which are title and
    trailer.

    How well VB hews to this standard, I for one can't say.

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