On 8 Jan, 14:53, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> For me it's time to say goodbye to openSuse, this system is not for a normal user who needs the things running without hassle ..

I have found the openSuSE to be less than open in providing the
information needed to fully tweak a system. I mean it's all there on
the DVD you just have to find it.

Ubuntu actually seems to be designed with the 'normal user' in mind
and there is a lot more support online.

I fear that NovoSOFTS strategy in relation to openSUSE is to make it a
niche distro only interesting to the developers and tinkerers.

Is it possible to use openSuSE in a commercial environment without
paying per seat or per server or per processor licenses. I asked on
the openSuSE forum but no one seems to want to provide that
information. Or even mention the name of the dreaded GPL ...

http://suseforums.net/

Doug Mentohl writes:

> On 8 Jan, 14:53, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> For me it's time to say goodbye to openSuse, this system is not for a normal user who needs the things running without hassle ..
>
> I have found the openSuSE to be less than open in providing the
> information needed to fully tweak a system. I mean it's all there on
> the DVD you just have to find it.

Way to go Einstein. And the rest of the 500 or so Linux distros are better how?

"Hadron" schreef in bericht
news:fm7rkl$n10$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Doug Mentohl writes:
>
>> On 8 Jan, 14:53, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> For me it's time to say goodbye to openSuse, this system is not for a
>>> normal user who needs the things running without hassle ..
>>
>> I have found the openSuSE to be less than open in providing the
>> information needed to fully tweak a system. I mean it's all there on
>> the DVD you just have to find it.
>
> Way to go Einstein. And the rest of the 500 or so Linux distros are better
> how?

Some Linux distro's have very odd names. Some of these Linux zealots must be
real weirdos!
CHAINSAWLINUX
Devil-Linux
JAILBAIT
Mastodon Linux
Wellhung Linux
Red Fag Linux
Doper
BUTT Linux
Fag project
SUX project
ASSLinux Desktop
nerdLinux
dia:bolic
FsckOSX
GeekboX
uClitonux
FuxLinux
Moronlinux
STUD GNU/Linux
WHINENUX
NippleBleX

Clogwog schreef:
>
> Some Linux distro's have very odd names. Some of these Linux zealots
> must be real weirdos!
>
> CHAINSAWLINUX, Devil-Linux, JAILBAIT, Mastodon Linux, Wellhung Linux,
> Red Fag Linux, Doper, BUTT Linux, Fag project, SUX project, ASSLinux
> Desktop, nerdLinux, dia:bolic, FsckOSX, GeekboX, uClitonux, FuxLinux,
> Moronlinux, STUD GNU/Linux, WHINENUX, NippleBleX

Clogwog is een idioot. U moet een beter beroep vinden.

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HPT

"高い平野のサンパー" schreef in bericht
newsan.2008.01.12.03.37.26.229000@linuxmail.org...
> Clogwog schreef:
>>
>> Some Linux distro's have very odd names. Some of these Linux zealots
>> must be real weirdos!
>>
>> CHAINSAWLINUX, Devil-Linux, JAILBAIT, Mastodon Linux, Wellhung Linux,
>> Red Fag Linux, Doper, BUTT Linux, Fag project, SUX project, ASSLinux
>> Desktop, nerdLinux, dia:bolic, FsckOSX, GeekboX, uClitonux, FuxLinux,
>> Moronlinux, STUD GNU/Linux, WHINENUX, NippleBleX
>
> Clogwog is een idioot. U moet een beter beroep vinden.
>
> --
> HPT

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...88561558523802
"High Plains Thumper loves to suck on balls.
October 18, 2007 5:48 PM"

Clogwog schreef:
>
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...88561558523802
>
> "High Plains Thumper loves to suck on balls. October 18, 2007
> 5:48 PM"

Dank u wel. Nu, ik weet het. U bent de anonieme schrijver.

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HPT

High Plains Thumper writes:

> Clogwog schreef:
>>
>> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...88561558523802
>>
>> "High Plains Thumper loves to suck on balls. October 18, 2007
>> 5:48 PM"
>
> Dank u wel. Nu, ik weet het. U bent de anonieme schrijver.

Ye gods. Surely even chrisv has plonked High Plains Hypocrite by now?

The day he has a thought of himself is the day that one of Mark Kent's
predictions come true.

Hadron wrote:
> High Plains Thumper writes:
>> Clogwog schreef:
>>>
>>> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...88561558523802
>>>
>>> "High Plains Thumper loves to suck on balls. October 18, 2007
>>> 5:48 PM"
>>
>> Dank u wel. Nu, ik weet het. U bent de anonieme schrijver.
>
> Ye gods. Surely even chrisv has plonked High Plains Hypocrite by now?
>
> The day he has a thought of himself is the day that one of Mark Kent's
> predictions come true.

Hmmmm..... Interesting ...... I binned Hadron, but fortunately
Google-Groups made known his iillicit reply. Ah, Hadron, the Tokyo
Rose of advocacy. Calls me a hypocrite, yet fails to respond to
Clogwog's foul reply. This is an example of:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics

45. Criticize Linux Advocates but ignore anti-Linux propagandist
transgressions. Always criticize the behavior of Linux Advocates,
but, ignore the same and even worse transgressions are being committed
by your fellow Trespassers.

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HPT

High Plains Thumper wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper writes:
>>> Clogwog schreef:
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...88561558523802
>>>>
>>>> "High Plains Thumper loves to suck on balls. October 18, 2007
>>>> 5:48 PM"
>>>
>>> Dank u wel. Nu, ik weet het. U bent de anonieme schrijver.
>>
>> Ye gods. Surely even chrisv has plonked High Plains Hypocrite by now?
>>
>> The day he has a thought of himself is the day that one of Mark Kent's
>> predictions come true.
>
> Hmmmm..... Interesting ...... I binned Hadron, but fortunately
> Google-Groups made known his iillicit reply. Ah, Hadron, the Tokyo
> Rose of advocacy. Calls me a hypocrite, yet fails to respond to
> Clogwog's foul reply. This is an example of:
>
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
>
>

> 7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
>
> 45. Criticize Linux Advocates but ignore anti-Linux propagandist
> transgressions. Always criticize the behavior of Linux Advocates,
> but, ignore the same and even worse transgressions are being committed
> by your fellow Trespassers.
>

Hadron Quack, The Trolls Friend.

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:45:33 -0800 (PST), High Plains Thumper wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
>
> Hmmmm..... Interesting ...... I binned Hadron, but fortunately
> Google-Groups made known his iillicit reply. Ah, Hadron, the Tokyo
> Rose of advocacy.

Yea, yea, you Linux fools are always claiming you've binned this one and
that one and are only seeing posts 3rd party.
Yea, well if you bin someone it means you are not interested in what they
are saying.
Yet, you never fail to respond to posts by these supposedly binned people
even if it's third party.
So why respond at all if you actually have the person binned?

Hypocrites are what most of you Linux advocates are.

BTW the Tokyo Rose comment *was* pretty funny
Not true, but unique.

William Poaster wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Ye gods. Surely even chrisv has plonked High Plains
>>> Hypocrite by now?
>>>
>>> The day he has a thought of himself is the day that one of
>>> Mark Kent's predictions come true.



>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
>>
>>

7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
>>
>> 45. Criticize Linux Advocates but ignore anti-Linux
>> propagandist transgressions.

>
> Hadron Quack, The Trolls Friend.

It certainly seems that way. The "Tokyo Rose" of advocacy.

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HPT

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> Hmmmm..... Interesting ...... I binned Hadron, but
>> fortunately Google-Groups made known his illicit reply. Ah,
>> Hadron, the Tokyo Rose of advocacy.
>
> Yea, yea, you Linux fools are always claiming you've binned
> this one and that one and are only seeing posts 3rd party.

Hmmmm..... Interesting baseless observation, all linux advocates
are fools.

> Yea, well if you bin someone it means you are not interested
> in what they are saying. Yet, you never fail to respond to
> posts by these supposedly binned people even if it's third
> party. So why respond at all if you actually have the person
> binned?

Is this why you continuously nymshift? Ah, I see, you need to
seek a response from us.

> Hypocrites are what most of you Linux advocates are.

Interesting generalisation, but it holds very little water.

> BTW the Tokyo Rose comment *was* pretty funny

His continuous taunts toward advocates are not much different
that TR's taunts toward Allies during WW2. She claimed to be a
friend of the Allies, but spoke contrarily.

> Not true, but unique.

Interesting, rhymes with Troll-speak.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics

41. Use of Undefined Terminology. Use terms such as
"indoctrinated" as a substitute for "educated" or "experienced"
when referring to a Linux Advocate. Use "pedantic" in place of
"correct", "precise", or "accurate" when referring to a Linux
Advocate. Create and use personal definitions such as
commercial quality" for impressive sounding terms to mislead the
unwary. But never share your definitions for your inappropriate
terminology. This is commonly known as Troll-speak.

BTW, I like Ubuntu. Following are the automatic updates
installed for past few days:

Synaptic history log:

Commit Log for Tue Jan 22 19:10:04 2008

Upgraded the following packages:
bind9-host (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
dnsutils (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
ghostscript (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
ghostscript-x (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
gs-common (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
gs-esp (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
gs-esp-x (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
libbind9-30 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
libdns32 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
libgs8 (8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.2) to
8.61.dfsg.1~svn8187-0ubuntu3.3
libisc32 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
libisccc30 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
libisccfg30 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1
liblwres30 (1:9.4.1-P1-3) to 1:9.4.1-P1-3ubuntu1

Commit Log for Sat Jan 19 13:26:46 2008

Upgraded the following packages:
xserver-xorg-core (2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.2) to
2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3

Commit Log for Fri Jan 18 17:49:10 2008

Upgraded the following packages:
avahi-daemon (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-client3 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-common-data (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-common3 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-core5 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-glib1 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libavahi-qt3-1 (0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1) to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.2
libxfont1 (1:1.3.0-0ubuntu1) to 1:1.3.0-0ubuntu1.1
xserver-xorg-core (2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8) to
2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.2

"Running light without overbyte." Dr. Dobbs Journal of Computer
Orthodontistry

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HPT

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:29:24 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:

And you were doing so well.
I had high hopes for you, too bad.
Oh well, I suppose the morning dose of Koolaid has kicked in.