DFS wrote:

> ==================================================
> "Short of hardware failure, it seems that both our Windows and Linux
> servers never crash. Linux is a bit easier to patch without rebooting.

A bit easier?? This guy is a total asshole. You can't update a windows box
without a reboot... The ONLY time you have to reboot a linux box is if you
alter the kernel...

What a moron...

> At this point, I trust that our Windows servers are about as stable as our
> Linux servers in terms of uptime under normal circumstances.

Like... maybe if... the windows boxes NEVER sees a user...


> But aside
> from that, there is a limit to how much I can trust proprietary software
> (as in closed, not as in commercial), because I don't have the source.
> Fixing open source code as part of my job isn't something I do often, but
> the need arises at least a couple times a year. The last time, days of
> work would have otherwise been lost. You just can't fix some bugs without
> the source. There are always workarounds, but sometimes they're comparable
> to buying a new house to fix a broken window."
>

Uhh... a ray of hope. Who is this guy???


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Jerry McBride wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> ==================================================
>> "Short of hardware failure, it seems that both our Windows and Linux
>> servers never crash. Linux is a bit easier to patch without
>> rebooting.
>
> A bit easier?? This guy is a total asshole. You can't update a
> windows box without a reboot...

B-u-l-l-s-h-i-t.


> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
> linux box is if you alter the kernel...

Or change a video driver:
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png

Or when the screen goes blank for no reason (which started happening to me
when I logged out of a KDE session in StartCom EL5)

Or when Suse decides to choke: "Every now and then my CD/DVD drive will not
eject. This seems to happen after having used K3B and closing the drive with
no CD/DVD mounted. It seems that only a reboot fixes it." thread on
alt.os.linux.suse

etc
etc
etc

DFS :
> Jerry McBride wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> ==================================================
>>> "Short of hardware failure, it seems that both our Windows and Linux
>>> servers never crash. Linux is a bit easier to patch without
>>> rebooting.
>>
>> A bit easier?? This guy is a total asshole. You can't update a
>> windows box without a reboot...
>
> B-u-l-l-s-h-i-t.
>
>
>> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
>> linux box is if you alter the kernel...
>
> Or change a video driver:
> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png

ctrl-alt-bckspc would've done the job in this case. You're running a
system designed to pander to Windows users. Those folks are used to
rebooting every time you change something.

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Handover Phist wrote:
> DFS :
>> Jerry McBride wrote:

>>> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
>>> linux box is if you alter the kernel...
>>
>> Or change a video driver:
>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>
> ctrl-alt-bckspc would've done the job in this case. You're running a
> system designed to pander to Windows users. Those folks are used to
> rebooting every time you change something.

So you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying.

* DFS fired off this tart reply:

> Handover Phist wrote:
>> DFS :
>>> Jerry McBride wrote:
>
>>>> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
>>>> linux box is if you alter the kernel...
>>>
>>> Or change a video driver:
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>
>> ctrl-alt-bckspc would've done the job in this case. You're running a
>> system designed to pander to Windows users. Those folks are used to
>> rebooting every time you change something.
>
> So you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying.

We've already been all over this Mepis video canard a few months ago.

Take your ass-kicking like a man.

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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Handover Phist wrote:
>> DFS :
>>> Jerry McBride wrote:
>
>>>> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
>>>> linux box is if you alter the kernel...
>>>
>>> Or change a video driver:
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>
>> ctrl-alt-bckspc would've done the job in this case. You're running a
>> system designed to pander to Windows users. Those folks are used to
>> rebooting every time you change something.
>
> So you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying.

Based on your history around here, it is most likely - by far - that you
are being intentionally dishonest, but it is *remotely* possible that
you're simply a vegetable, incapable of actual learning, so I'll give you
the benefit of the doubt, assume you really are just that unbelievably
moronic, and explain this to you again, in the vain hopes you will buy a
clue this time.

It is *not* necessary to reboot in order to activate a video driver. It
is, however, a multi-step operation which, in many cases, would require
writing down the instructions as they won't be available on screen for
several of those steps.

Since most users aren't going to bother writing such things down, and
since the details of doing it right are less than immediately obvious -
and easy to get wrong - a simpler mechanism would be preferred in the
general case, and such a mechanism exists: reboot the machine.

Is it necessary? No. It will, however, do the job and involves one,
simple instruction which even someone as challenged as you are can manage
to pull off.

Is Mepis lying? Yes, in the sense someone who says "the sun is rising" is
lying; the sun is not rising, the earth is rotating about its axis,
exposing the portion of its surface where the viewer is located to an
increasing portion of the sun's light. Normal people can grasp that "the
sun is rising" is both technically inaccurate yet not a lie; it is a
simplification used because the strictly correct statement offers no
particular benefit in most cases.

Just as "the sun is rising" is not a lie, Mepis saying you need to reboot
to update your video driver is neither technically correct nor a lie, but
a simplification which will achieve the desired result without a lot of
technobabble which benefits few - a few who, as noted, likely know how to
avoid the reboot anyhow.

You know, I can't believe I just wasted that much energy explaining this
to you when it's readily obvious you are either a complete ****ing moron
or an completely dishonest ****head; you're either too stupid or too
dishonest to ever manage to grasp the concepts involved and apply them, so
this was a complete waste of effort.

Too bad. Most people I have some vain hope that they're actually capable
of learning. You, I have no such hope for. I took you out of the
killfile to see just how long it took you to pull something like this, and
there you go, almost immediately proving yourself a total, complete and
absolute ****tard.

Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.

Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0500, DFS wrote:



> Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.

This all looks quite familiar. Didn't Dopey DuFu$ post something like this
earlier in the year? The idiot troll must have run out of things to whine
about. Of course, trolls *do* tend to go round in circles & repeat
themselves every so often.

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> Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.


you *are* an optimist...

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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:18:48 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>
>
>> Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.
>
> This all looks quite familiar. Didn't Dopey DuFu$ post something like
> this earlier in the year? The idiot troll must have run out of things to
> whine about. Of course, trolls *do* tend to go round in circles & repeat
> themselves every so often.

He did, and I explained it all to the lying sack of **** then, too.

Linonut wrote:
> * DFS fired off this tart reply:
>
>> Handover Phist wrote:
>>> DFS :
>>>> Jerry McBride wrote:
>>
>>>>> The ONLY time you have to reboot a
>>>>> linux box is if you alter the kernel...
>>>>
>>>> Or change a video driver:
>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>>
>>> ctrl-alt-bckspc would've done the job in this case. You're running a
>>> system designed to pander to Windows users. Those folks are used to
>>> rebooting every time you change something.
>>
>> So you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying.
>
> We've already been all over this Mepis video canard a few months ago.

Now you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying. Shame!

If Ctrl+Alt+Backspace would suffice - as Handover claims - why didn't Mepis
just say so? Is it the moronic claim of both you wacks that Mepis is
*intentionally* making it much more difficult and interruptive to change a
video driver than it has to be?



> Take your ass-kicking like a man.

Come back when your punches don't feel like a 3rd-graders'.

> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

* vegetable
* incapable of actual learning
* unbelievably moronic
* as challenged as you
* complete ****ing moron
* completely dishonest ****head
* too stupid
* too dishonest
* You, I have no such hope for
* total, complete and absolute ****tard.
* lying sack of ****

Yep, it's the real Kelsey Bjarnason. And he's having a good day!



> It is *not* necessary to reboot in order to activate a video driver. It
> is, however, a multi-step operation which, in many cases, would require
> writing down the instructions as they won't be available on screen for
> several of those steps.

Handover Phist says Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is all that's needed. Mepis says a
reboot is required. Someone's bull****ting here in la-la land.



> Just as "the sun is rising" is not a lie, Mepis saying you need to reboot
> to update your video driver is neither technically correct nor a lie, but
> a simplification which will achieve the desired result without a lot of
> technobabble which benefits few - a few who, as noted, likely know how to
> avoid the reboot anyhow.

So Mepis would rather lie and trick a user into rebooting than make them go
through the kinds of hassles Linux is well known for. Either way you luse
with Linux.


> Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.

Come back soon, you heah!



> This all looks quite familiar. Didn't Dopey DuFu$ post something like
> this earlier in the year? The idiot troll must have run out of things to
> whine about. Of course, trolls *do* tend to go round in circles & repeat
> themselves every so often.

Poaster, how come in the 3.5 years I've been on cola you've rarely if ever
contributed anything worth reading or discussing? Cripes almighty, if you
can't talk about Linux, maybe you can tell us how to hit a draw with a
driver - I can't make it happen (though I can easily draw my irons, and hit
nice power fades with the driver).



> He did, and I explained it all to the lying sack of **** then, too.

Where's the lie?

Linonut wrote:


>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>>

Click the link Linoliar. "You must reboot so the change will take effect."

Jerry McBride wrote:
>
> This guy is a total asshole. You can't update a
> windows box without a reboot..

Admission of your problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

I updated XP this morning without a reboot, yet you claim it's not possible.
Why must you lie so often?

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:23:43 -0600, SW wrote:

> Linonut wrote:
>
>
>>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>>>
>>>>
> Click the link Linoliar. "You must reboot so the change will take
> effect."

Ah, yes. "It must be true - I saw it on the net."

Another drooling moron incapable of the mental processes required to wipe
the drool from his chin, now also relegated to the circular file.

SW wrote:

> Jerry McBride wrote:
>>
>> This guy is a total asshole. You can't update a
>> windows box without a reboot..
>
> Admission of your problem is the first step on the road to recovery.
>
> I updated XP this morning without a reboot, yet you claim it's not
> possible. Why must you lie so often?

Oh, it may happen that a DLL is not in use and so the reboot is not needed.
That is not the rule, though. It is the exception
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* DFS fired off this tart reply:

> Linonut wrote:
>>
>> We've already been all over this Mepis video canard a few months ago.
>
> Now you're accusing the Mepis developers of lying. Shame!
>
>> Take your ass-kicking like a man.
>
> Come back when your punches don't feel like a 3rd-graders'.

You can talk smack all you like, but your posts have been extremely
feeble lately. I'm serious. Please increase your trolling quality, so
we can have a real challenge.

And try to avoid the Slimer tactics practised by amiscum.

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* SW fired off this tart reply:

> Linonut wrote:
>
>>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/planet/dfs0/Mepis_reboot.png
>>>>
>
> Click the link Linoliar. "You must reboot so the change will take effect."

They are wrong. Simple as that, ****Wit.

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Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:18:48 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>
>> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Back to the circular file with you. Maybe I'll try again in 2009.
>>
>> This all looks quite familiar. Didn't Dopey DuFu$ post something like
>> this earlier in the year? The idiot troll must have run out of things to
>> whine about. Of course, trolls *do* tend to go round in circles & repeat
>> themselves every so often.
>
>He did, and I explained it all to the lying sack of **** then, too.

That's the MO. I've had him plonked since day one, and still see
enough of his ****e to know that he is always repeating the same lies
and idiocy (and, unfortunately, getting rewarded for it).

Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

>Is Mepis lying? Yes, in the sense someone who says "the sun is rising" is
>lying; the sun is not rising, the earth is rotating about its axis,
>exposing the portion of its surface where the viewer is located to an
>increasing portion of the sun's light. Normal people can grasp that "the
>sun is rising" is both technically inaccurate yet not a lie; it is a
>simplification used because the strictly correct statement offers no
>particular benefit in most cases.

A good (and funny) analogy. However, far too many multi-syllable
words for the idiot.