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This is a discussion on Re: what this forum is really about ... - Linux ; On 2007-11-19, High Plains Thumper wrote: > This is an example of: > > "43. Citing vapor postings. Cite the statements that you had > "intended" to include but never actual written into your past > posting. Gamble on the ...

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  1. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On 2007-11-19, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    > This is an example of:
    >
    > "43. Citing vapor postings. Cite the statements that you had
    > "intended" to include but never actual written into your past
    > posting. Gamble on the possibility that nobody will remember what


    Since the link to my posting was included in Doug's post, and it shows
    exactly the statements that I say were in the post, don't you feel
    rather stupid now? Or are you using a definition of vapor that doesn't
    match what everyone else uses?

    ....
    > I see from your selective snippage, trollboi, that you changed
    > the context of Roy's intentions.


    What snippage?

    > http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/


    That's nice. Here's what I was quoting:

    http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required

    That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to his own site
    several days later is irrelevant, since I don't read his site regularly.

  2. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Tim Smith wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> This is an example of:
    >>
    >> "43. Citing vapor postings. Cite the statements that you
    >> had "intended" to include but never actual written into your
    >> past posting. Gamble on the possibility that nobody will
    >> remember what

    >
    > Since the link ___ /\ ___ s included in Doug's post, and
    > it shows ex ,' `.`-'..`-',' `. that I say were in the post,
    > don't you f ( |\ \ / /| ) Or are you using a
    > definition o `.`|) : __ : (|',' match what everyone else
    > uses? \_ | -- | _/
    > ( _`.| |,'_ )
    > `.\ `.__,' /,'
    >> I _(_(__)_\_____)/ \(______/_(__)_)____, that you

    > |SSt `|\|`| \/)__(\/ |' |/|' |
    >> | _ __ _ `..____..' _ __ _. |

    > | _ _ _ `-_--'_ _ _ _ _ |
    > | |_) | |_ /_\ (_ |_ |_ |_ |_ | \ |
    > | | |_ |_ / \ _) |_ | |_ |_ |_/ |
    > | _ ___ _ ___ _ _ |
    > | |\/| |_ | |_| |_ | |_) / \ | | |
    > | | | |_ | | | |_ | | \ \_/ |_ |_ |
    > |__________________________________________|
    >
    > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required
    >
    > That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to his own
    > site several days later is irrelevant, since I don't read his
    > site regularly.


    oh, really?

    --
    HPT

  3. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Can you address the point, HPT? You claimed that I was not telling the
    truth about my original posting. I showed you the link to it. What is
    there matches exactly what I said I said.

    Can you admit you were wrong, or do you want to try to hide behind more
    ASCII graphics?

  4. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Tim Smith wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>
    >>>> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required
    >>>
    >>> That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to his
    >>> own site several days later is irrelevant, since I don't
    >>> read his site regularly.

    >>
    >> oh, really?

    >
    > Can you address the point, HPT? You claimed that I was not
    > telling the truth about my original posting. I showed you the
    > link to it. What is there matches exactly what I said I said.
    >
    > Can you admit you were wrong, or do you want to try to hide
    > behind more ASCII graphics?


    http://groups.google.com/group/comp....38a1a66ef8d4b?

    http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ith-troll.html

    Saturday, January 27, 2007
    Tim Smith - Troll

    Name: Tim Smith

    Traits:

    * Microsoft apologist
    * Funkenbusch wannabee - fails badly
    * An incredible bore
    * An incredible bore - oops I've said that already, no more
    to be said


    --
    HPT

  5. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:38:59 +0900, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required
    >>>>
    >>>> That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to his
    >>>> own site several days later is irrelevant, since I don't
    >>>> read his site regularly.
    >>>
    >>> oh, really?

    >>
    >> Can you address the point, HPT? You claimed that I was not
    >> telling the truth about my original posting. I showed you the
    >> link to it. What is there matches exactly what I said I said.
    >>
    >> Can you admit you were wrong, or do you want to try to hide
    >> behind more ASCII graphics?

    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/comp....38a1a66ef8d4b?
    >
    > http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ith-troll.html
    >
    >
    > Saturday, January 27, 2007
    > Tim Smith - Troll
    >
    > Name: Tim Smith
    >
    > Traits:
    >
    > * Microsoft apologist
    > * Funkenbusch wannabee - fails badly
    > * An incredible bore
    > * An incredible bore - oops I've said that already, no more
    > to be said
    >
    >
    >


    Only problem with all that is, Tim was right in this instance.

    --
    Kier


  6. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Kier wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....38a1a66ef8d4b?
    >>
    >> http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ith-troll.html
    >>
    >>
    >> Saturday, January 27, 2007
    >> Tim Smith - Troll
    >>
    >> Name: Tim Smith
    >>
    >> Traits:
    >>
    >> * Microsoft apologist
    >> * Funkenbusch wannabee - fails badly
    >> * An incredible bore
    >> * An incredible bore - oops I've said that already, no more
    >> to be said
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Only problem with all that is, Tim was right in this instance.


    http://groups.google.com/group/comp....92b8e4558c8dc?

    Willaim Poaster wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> Kier wrote:
    >>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Another fine linux advocacy post from the "true linux
    >>>> advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile
    >>>> expert", "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server
    >>>> admin", "newsreader magician" and "hardware maven" Hadron
    >>>> Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary.
    >>>
    >>> For heaven's sake, it's bad enough when Peter K does that,
    >>> we don't need someone else at it.

    >>
    >> Is listening to Hadron's gob****e more acceptable?

    >
    > It is to Kier, he likes trolls.


    --
    HPT

  7. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:59:09 +0900, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Kier wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....38a1a66ef8d4b?
    >>>
    >>> http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/...ith-troll.html
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Saturday, January 27, 2007
    >>> Tim Smith - Troll
    >>>
    >>> Name: Tim Smith
    >>>
    >>> Traits:
    >>>
    >>> * Microsoft apologist
    >>> * Funkenbusch wannabee - fails badly
    >>> * An incredible bore
    >>> * An incredible bore - oops I've said that already, no more
    >>> to be said
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Only problem with all that is, Tim was right in this instance.

    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/comp....92b8e4558c8dc?
    >
    > Willaim Poaster wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Kier wrote:
    >>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Another fine linux advocacy post from the "true linux
    >>>>> advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile
    >>>>> expert", "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server
    >>>>> admin", "newsreader magician" and "hardware maven" Hadron
    >>>>> Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary.
    >>>>
    >>>> For heaven's sake, it's bad enough when Peter K does that,
    >>>> we don't need someone else at it.
    >>>
    >>> Is listening to Hadron's gob****e more acceptable?

    >>
    >> It is to Kier, he likes trolls.


    Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should he not recieve
    an apology? Or are advocates excused from being honest? And what does
    Hadron have to do with this?

    --
    Kier


  8. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On 2007-11-20, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required
    >>>>
    >>>> That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to his
    >>>> own site several days later is irrelevant, since I don't
    >>>> read his site regularly.
    >>>
    >>> oh, really?

    >>
    >> Can you address the point, HPT? You claimed that I was not
    >> telling the truth about my original posting. I showed you the
    >> link to it. What is there matches exactly what I said I said.
    >>
    >> Can you admit you were wrong, or do you want to try to hide
    >> behind more ASCII graphics?


    [22 irrelevant lines snipped]

    So that would be a "no", right? You can't address the point, which is
    that you were blatantly wrong when you claimed my original post didn't
    say what I said it said.

  9. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Tim Smith wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>> Tim Smith wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/rPath...embly_required
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That Roy changed the material when he recycled it to
    >>>>> his own site several days later is irrelevant, since I
    >>>>> don't read his site regularly.
    >>>>
    >>>> oh, really?
    >>>
    >>> Can you address the point, HPT? You claimed that I was
    >>> not telling the truth about my original posting. I showed
    >>> you the link to it. What is there matches exactly what I
    >>> said I said.
    >>>
    >>> Can you admit you were wrong, or do you want to try to
    >>> hide behind more ASCII graphics?

    >
    > [22 irrelevant lines snipped]
    >
    > So that would be a "no", right? You can't address the point,
    > which is that you were blatantly wrong when you claimed my
    > original post didn't say what I said it said.


    For one, FUDboi, I will not play your silly word games.

    Going back you your first message, you talk in circles.

    I see Doug did some creative snipping. Let's restore the parts
    he snipped, so as to see my complete statement, shall we?
    You accuse Doug of creative snipping, yet you are one of the
    worst offenders.

    Then you add your cute little trollish punch line:

    Glad to see you've finally come around, HPT, and recognized Roy
    as a FUDboi.
    by putting words in my mouth, which was not my intent.

    I attempted to steer the discussion toward advocacy of Linux.
    Rather than you discussing items in line with the charter of
    comp.os.linux.advocacy, "For discussion of the benefits of Linux
    compared to other operating systems", you engage in your personal
    rants against individuals on issues outside of c.o.l.advocacy.

    Thus, I see no further reason to carry on this topic. This is my
    last reply to you in this thread.

    --
    HPT

  10. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Kier wrote:

    > Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should he
    > not receive an apology? Or are advocates excused from being
    > honest? And what does Hadron have to do with this?


    Apologise for what? Are you unable to comprehend? Timmy
    continues his off-topic rants against individuals for posts
    outside of c.o.l.advocacy, and now you want me to apologise.

    You really are naive, aren't you.

    --
    HPT

  11. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On 2007-11-20, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    > Going back you your first message, you talk in circles.
    >
    >
    > I see Doug did some creative snipping. Let's restore the parts
    > he snipped, so as to see my complete statement, shall we?
    >
    >
    > You accuse Doug of creative snipping, yet you are one of the
    > worst offenders.


    And I then quoted the full message, which *Doug* gave a link to,
    which showed his creative snipping. You didn't actually click
    the link he gave, did you?

    > Then you add your cute little trollish punch line:
    >
    >
    > Glad to see you've finally come around, HPT, and recognized Roy
    > as a FUDboi.
    >
    >
    > by putting words in my mouth, which was not my intent.


    When you thought that I was quoting Erik, you thought it was FUD. But
    now that you know that Doug was wrong, and I was quoting Roy, suddenly
    you don't think it is FUD? How come if Erik says Red Hat purposefully
    makes mistakes to sell support, it is FUD, but if Roy says it, it is
    not?

    ....
    > Thus, I see no further reason to carry on this topic. This is my
    > last reply to you in this thread.


    No surprise there, as you have thoroughly embarassed yourself in this
    thread. Next time, try actually reading the links posted by people,
    and maybe you won't have to turn tail and slink away.

  12. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:40:45 +0900, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Kier wrote:
    >
    >> Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should he
    >> not receive an apology? Or are advocates excused from being
    >> honest? And what does Hadron have to do with this?

    >
    > Apologise for what? Are you unable to comprehend? Timmy
    > continues his off-topic rants against individuals for posts
    > outside of c.o.l.advocacy, and now you want me to apologise.


    What you accused him of was untrue. He proved it was untrue. You owe him
    an apology.

    >
    > You really are naive, aren't you.


    No, I'm not. I'm sick of advocates who can't be honest.

    --
    Kier


  13. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    Kier wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> Kier wrote:
    >>
    >>> Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should
    >>> he not receive an apology? Or are advocates excused from
    >>> being honest? And what does Hadron have to do with this?

    >>
    >> Apologise for what? Are you unable to comprehend? Timmy
    >> continues his off-topic rants against individuals for posts
    >> outside of c.o.l.advocacy, and now you want me to
    >> apologise.

    >
    > What you accused him of was untrue. He proved it was untrue.
    > You owe him an apology.


    You really have a reading comprehension problem.

    >> You really are naive, aren't you.

    >
    > No, I'm not. I'm sick of advocates who can't be honest.


    Then [H]omer was correct, you really are a troll.



    --
    HPT

  14. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:05:11 +0900, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Kier wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Kier wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should
    >>>> he not receive an apology? Or are advocates excused from
    >>>> being honest? And what does Hadron have to do with this?
    >>>
    >>> Apologise for what? Are you unable to comprehend? Timmy
    >>> continues his off-topic rants against individuals for posts
    >>> outside of c.o.l.advocacy, and now you want me to
    >>> apologise.

    >>
    >> What you accused him of was untrue. He proved it was untrue.
    >> You owe him an apology.

    >
    > You really have a reading comprehension problem.


    No, I don't. YOu do, in this instance. A willful and deliberate one.

    >
    >>> You really are naive, aren't you.

    >>
    >> No, I'm not. I'm sick of advocates who can't be honest.

    >
    > Then [H]omer was correct, you really are a troll.


    No, I'm not. And you seem to be admitting that you are not honest. The
    truth is the truth, whether or not uttered by someone you claim
    erroneously to be a troll.

    >
    >


    Big deal. YOu know what - that's a pathetic response.

    --
    Kier


  15. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Kier wrote:


    < snip >

    >>> You really are naive, aren't you.

    >>
    >> No, I'm not. I'm sick of advocates who can't be honest.

    >
    > Then [H]omer was correct, you really are a troll.
    >


    I don't think that it would make him a troll
    Sure, Erik Funkenbusch claims he is here to "keep us honest". Which is about
    the biggest load of bull**** imaginable, since it comes from a lying,
    extremely dishonest twit
    Hadron Quark has claimed similar bull. We all know what one can think of
    that guy. Pond scum is less filthy

    But what is wrong with wanting "honest advocates"? After all, Mark Kent is
    about the worst "advocate" here regarding "honesty". He is not honest

    And saying that some "advocates" are not honest makes one a troll?
    I propose calling those "advocates" something else. Not "advocates", because
    they aren't. Mark Kent certainly isn't. He may think that he is one, but
    dishonesty and advocacy don't really mix

    That is also one of the reasons Erik Funkenbusch, DFS, billwg or Hadron
    Quark are so dispised here. They are dishonest, so their credibility is
    about zero.

    You can't have it both ways
    --
    Your conscience never stops you from doing anything. It just stops you
    from enjoying it.


  16. Re: what this forum is really about ...


    "High Plains Thumper" wrote in message
    news:4743a06a$0$3901$6e1ede2f@read.cnntp.org...
    > Kier wrote:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Kier wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Liar. I like the truth. If Tim is correct, then why should
    >>>> he not receive an apology? Or are advocates excused from
    >>>> being honest? And what does Hadron have to do with this?
    >>>
    >>> Apologise for what? Are you unable to comprehend? Timmy continues his
    >>> off-topic rants against individuals for posts
    >>> outside of c.o.l.advocacy, and now you want me to
    >>> apologise.

    >>
    >> What you accused him of was untrue. He proved it was untrue.
    >> You owe him an apology.

    >
    > You really have a reading comprehension problem.
    >
    >>> You really are naive, aren't you.

    >>
    >> No, I'm not. I'm sick of advocates who can't be honest.

    >
    > Then [H]omer was correct, you really are a troll.
    >
    >
    >


    Poor High Plains Rafael - The best he can do is resort to a pathetic little
    "plinque" and run away like the dishonest coward that he is.




    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


  17. Re: what this forum is really about ...

    On 2007-11-21, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> What you accused him of was untrue. He proved it was untrue.
    >> You owe him an apology.

    >
    > You really have a reading comprehension problem.


    I posted something that said X and Y. Doug quoted it, leaving out Y.
    Doug posted the link to the original post.

    I then said Doug snipped, and that I had also said Y.

    Then you claim that I never said Y and was making it up.

    Since all you have to do is click the link Doug posted to see that I did
    originally say both X and Y, how is it Kier that has a reading
    comprehension problem?

    Here's a tip for you: when you want to lie about something, pick
    something that can't be checked by a single click on a link that is
    included in the original post.

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