On Nov 14, 11:12 pm, "bmillerjacob...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, Roy Schestowitz
> wrote:
>
> > Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>
> > ,----[ Quote ]
> > | Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or six-month
> > | subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and pay a monthly fee to use the
> > | product.
> > `----
>
> Just when I thought their sow

Hit send button by accident, sorry.

Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more expensive,
they come up with this. From their point of view, this might scream
huge profits, but I bet users will just get fed up eventually and go
open source, for the most part.

____/ bmillerjacobson@gmail.com on Thursday 15 November 2007 04:15 : \____

> On Nov 14, 11:12 pm, "bmillerjacob...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, Roy Schestowitz
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>>
>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>> > | Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or six-month
>> > | subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and pay a monthly fee to use
>> > | the product.
>> > `----
>>
>> Just when I thought their sow
>
> Hit send button by accident, sorry.
>
> Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more expensive,
> they come up with this. From their point of view, this might scream
> huge profits, but I bet users will just get fed up eventually and go
> open source, for the most part.

In many cases, it's down to officials and CIOs, who are easily corrupted. See
the OP which includes a very recent example from Nigeria.

Microsoft thrives in a world of bribery and fraud.

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____/ [H]omer on Thursday 15 November 2007 06:58 : \____

> Verily I say unto thee, that bmillerjacobson@gmail.com spake thusly:
>
>> Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more expensive,
>> they come up with this. From their point of view, this might scream
>> huge profits, but I bet users will just get fed up eventually and go
>> open source, for the most part.
>
> It's the proprietary software [1] industry's wet dream ... subscription
> only, no purchase, thus ensuring that everyone who uses their "IP" pays
> over and over and over again, for the "privilege" of accessing the same
> "IP", in perpetuity.
>
> [1] Software in the larger sense including music, video, computer code,
> and even written publications.

Planned obsolescence. The fashion industry is pretty much the same, but it
can't /force/ these issue. It's just a social force (peer pressure).

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bmillerjacobson wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or
>>> six-month subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and
>>> pay a monthly fee to use the product.
>>> `----
>
> Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more
> expensive, they come up with this. From their point of view,
> this might scream huge profits, but I bet users will just get
> fed up eventually and go open source, for the most part.

Actually what I find appalling is the essence of greed, rather
than value added, cost effective, feature rich, most wanted
customer items, etc. focus.

Why 'pay-as-you-go' when the Sun professionally developed
StarOffice and free OpenOffice are feature rich products, well
suited for most office automation applications.

I remember writers using Wordstar 3.0 in CP/M-80 write their
novels, thesis, research papers, etc. They were productive. I
was productive. The latest StarOffice is definitely more than
that. For one, I still find WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows 3.1 much
easier to work with than MS Word. How much more then, OpenOffice.

That one must have a particular brand of proprietary, monopolised
software to be productive is simply gob****e, pure and simple.

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____/ High Plains Thumper on Thursday 15 November 2007 11:01 : \____

> bmillerjacobson wrote:
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or
>>>> six-month subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and
>>>> pay a monthly fee to use the product.
>>>> `----
>>
>> Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more
>> expensive, they come up with this. From their point of view,
>> this might scream huge profits, but I bet users will just get
>> fed up eventually and go open source, for the most part.
>
> Actually what I find appalling is the essence of greed, rather
> than value added, cost effective, feature rich, most wanted
> customer items, etc. focus.
>
> Why 'pay-as-you-go' when the Sun professionally developed
> StarOffice and free OpenOffice are feature rich products, well
> suited for most office automation applications.

Great analogy and a great sign of things to come (with Oh-Oh-XML to ensure you
can't escape with your crucial data):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZhPI1eic4

Yes, it's a new commercial.

> I remember writers using Wordstar 3.0 in CP/M-80 write their
> novels, thesis, research papers, etc. They were productive. I
> was productive. The latest StarOffice is definitely more than
> that. For one, I still find WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows 3.1 much
> easier to work with than MS Word. How much more then, OpenOffice.
>
> That one must have a particular brand of proprietary, monopolised
> software to be productive is simply gob****e, pure and simple.

Let's see if the governments allow Microsoft get people 'addicted' (infected
rather.... or locked in).

Governments Must Reject Gates' $3 Bid to Addict Next Billion PC Users

,----[ Quote ]
| "Microsoft's strategy of getting developing nations hooked on its
| software was clearly outlined by Bill Gates almost a decade ago," said
| Con Zymaris, CEO of long-standing open source firm Cybersource.
|
| Specifically, Bill Gates, citing China as an example, said:
| Â*
| Â* "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but
| Â* people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though.
| Â* As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours.
| Â* They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to
| Â* collect sometime in the next decade."[1]
`----

http://www.cybersource.com.au/press/...t_billion.html

They also give trial versions now and do contracts with OEMs... everything to
get people imprisoned by the proprietary format that is Oh Oh XML!! Oh oh!

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bmillerjacobson@gmail.com wrote:

> On Nov 14, 11:12 pm, "bmillerjacob...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>> > Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>>
>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>> > | Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or six-month
>> > | subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and pay a monthly fee to
>> > use the | product.
>> > `----
>>
>> Just when I thought their sow
>
> Hit send button by accident, sorry.
>
> Just when I thought their software couldn't get any more expensive, they
> come up with this. From their point of view, this might scream huge
> profits, but I bet users will just get fed up eventually and go open
> source, for the most part.

No surprise. They've been saying for years that they want to move to a
subscription model. They already have it, effectively, with their
corporate licensing plans...

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> On Nov 14, 11:12 pm, "bmillerjacob...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, Roy Schestowitz
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Microsoft expands Office 'pay-as-you-go' rental program
>>
>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>> > | Via the pay-as-you-go program, users can choose three- or six-month
>> > | subscriptions to Office Professional 2007 and pay a monthly fee to
>> > use the
>> > | product.
>> > `----
>>
>> Just when I thought their sow
>
> Hit send button by accident, sorry.

Oh do **** off you irritating cunt!
*plonk*

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, HangEveryRepubliKKKan

wrote
on Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:43:52 -0800
:
>
> "Roy Schestowitz" wrote
>> Planned obsolescence.
>
> Designed into every product you purchase. Especially Automobiles.
>

And, apparently, commercial closed-source operating systems.

This is not to say Unix/Linux doesn't have some issues
with obsolescence. The most obvious variant to me,
admittedly, is the XrmResource system that used to be
popular in Intrinsics and Motif.

XrmResource is no longer used, and AFAIK never has been
in KDE or Gnome. I suspect part of this is Windows again
(that may sound paranoid, but bear with me); XrmResource
does not exist in Windows and therefore KDE and Gnome had
to develop to the lowest common denominator.

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HangEveryRepubliKKKan wrote:
> "High Plains Thumper" wrote
>
>> Why 'pay-as-you-go' when the Sun professionally developed
>> StarOffice and free OpenOffice are feature rich products,
>> well suited for most office automation applications.
>>
>> I remember writers using Wordstar 3.0 in CP/M-80 write their
>> novels, thesis, research papers, etc. They were productive.
>> I was productive. The latest StarOffice is definitely more
>> than that. For one, I still find WordPerfect 6.1 for
>> Windows 3.1 much easier to work with than MS Word. How much
>> more then, OpenOffice.
>
> You are entirely missing the issue. Open Office is absolutely
> good enough for the office. Notepad is good enough for the
> office. But Open Office is absolutely good enough.

That is a rather assumptive, arrogant reply from you. I have
used both OpenOffice and Microsoft Office, along with other
office automation suites over time. Even the free version
OpenOffice, sans the additional features offered in commercial
product StarOffice, is more than "just good enough". It is
definitely suitable for the work environment.

> The question is not is Open Office good enough. The question
> is why isn't everyone using Open Office.

You seem to have your blinders on, trollboi. The ranks are
increasing with those who use alternate products to Microsoft.

> When you have that answer you will know how to compete with
> Microsoft.

http://www.around.com/microsoft.html

Before he installed Windows 95, John Dodge connected to the
Internet using software from a Microsoft competitor, CompuServe's
Internet in a Box. Not anymore—Windows 95 silently disabled a key
piece of his setup and made it too difficult for him to reinstall it.
Dodge is no novice. He is senior executive editor of the trade
journal PC Week and so had access to the highest-level support
engineers. But life is short and even software professionals
learn to take the path of least resistance—in this case, the path
leading to Microsoft. He has become a regular user of the new
Microsoft Network, though he has trouble with its Internet features.
Still, he believes Microsoft executives when they deny trying
to gain market share by sabotaging competitors' software. He just
wonders whether Microsoft "has a full appreciation of its actions
in the market place."
There is reason to believe that Microsoft does.

There is a reason why Microsoft has monopolised the market with
its software products. Above is an example of how Microsoft
eliminated competing CompuServe's Internet in a Box.

Microsoft makes decisions on other's people's software, without
consulting them.

The truth is not quite so innocent. Most Internet dial-up
software written for Windows relies on a piece of software called
winsock. Everyone's winsock is supposed to be more or less
interchangeable with everyone else's, but differences do exist.
Many vendors put their winsock into the Windows directory of the
user's computer—a friendly practice, since it is then available
to other software that might need it, but a risky one, too. If
Windows 95 sees a non-Microsoft winsock, it carefully and
explicitly replaces it.

I was unable to install WordPerfect 6.1 on Windows NT 4.0,
because of a single dll with the name wp*.dll in the NT systems
directory.

Microsoft eliminates competition by its practises.

> But you LinTards/UniTards haven't managed to figure it out
> in the last 30 years.

LOL, I get an electrifying charge when I hear these old, worn,
bent cliches, from insulting trollbois like you. You are a riot,
really.

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