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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:26 -0800, dapunka wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 11 Nov, 17:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>[color=green]
>> I don't take people that use pseudonyms seriously. You
>> have no consequences to your words or actions, and you can say whatever you
>> like without fear of it ever coming back to haunt you. That's why you,
>> like Daeron, are such a prick all the time.
>>
>> At least people like Peter K, Jim Richardson, etc.. have the balls to use
>> their real names. And as such, they don't say things they wouldn't say in
>> real life.[/color]
>
> That's just after-the-fact self-justification Erik. The reason people
> use noms de guerre in ngs like this is because ngs like this are /
> like/ bloody wars... I don't say **** here I wouldn't say IRL. But
> certain folk here (I'm looking at /you/!) who dislike something I say
> may want to cause me crap. I dunno why, I guess ass-holery just comes
> naturally to some. So I use an obscure pseudonym and a disposable
> gmail account. Doesn't mean I'm up to anything bad. Unlike you.[/color]
I question the veracity of your claim. If you are afraid of repercussions
from your participation in the newsgroup, then you are admitting that you
would not say the same things IRL.
A chinese dissident that uses a psuedonym online would not make the same
claims in his neighborhood to his neighbors. He likely has good reason to
be anonymous, but that doesn't change the fact that he's hiding behind
anonyminity to protect his personal life, and thus he can't make the same
claims in his personal life for fear of getting the same reputation his nym
gets.
To use your analogy of a "warzone", international law requires soldiers to
wear uniforms and properly identify themselves, so their actions can be
properly attributed to them and their army. Otherwise, you have a bunch of
guys running around, looking like normal citizens, causing havok, and
there's often no way to tell which side they're on or who was responsible.
No, I don't think that just because someone uses a pseudonym that they're
up to no good, and in many cases anonyminity is not only desired, but a
damn good idea (such as in drug and psychological support groups), but when
people act like pricks, being anonymous gives them license to do whatever
they want without fear of repercussion.
I don't care if you're using a fake name if you're reasonable and make good
arguments (note that that doesn't mean that I expect to agree with you).
But when you start pulling **** like Daeron and Midget and others do, your
using psudonyms to hide behind because you're too ashamed to associate your
name with your words.
And, for the record, yes. That applies to both sides. I think flatfish is
a royal prick and coward for what he does. Same for Hadron and linuxsux
and several others.
But hey, it's a free internet and an unmoderated group. It's just my
opinion.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:26 -0800, dapunka wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On 11 Nov, 17:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I don't take people that use pseudonyms seriously. You
> >> have no consequences to your words or actions, and you can say whatever you
> >> like without fear of it ever coming back to haunt you. That's why you,
> >> like Daeron, are such a prick all the time.
> >>
> >> At least people like Peter K, Jim Richardson, etc.. have the balls to use
> >> their real names. And as such, they don't say things they wouldn't say in
> >> real life.[/color]
> >
> > That's just after-the-fact self-justification Erik. The reason people
> > use noms de guerre in ngs like this is because ngs like this are /
> > like/ bloody wars... I don't say **** here I wouldn't say IRL. But
> > certain folk here (I'm looking at /you/!) who dislike something I say
> > may want to cause me crap. I dunno why, I guess ass-holery just comes
> > naturally to some. So I use an obscure pseudonym and a disposable
> > gmail account. Doesn't mean I'm up to anything bad. Unlike you.[/color]
>
> I question the veracity of your claim. If you are afraid of repercussions
> from your participation in the newsgroup, then you are admitting that you
> would not say the same things IRL.[/color]
Bull****. IRL I could say anything I like to your face. I'd know
exactly who you are, where you are. You'd be here, in my face. You
gave me **** IRL, I'd be able to sort it out with you IRL.
But in ngs like this, some people get up to all kinds of sneaky
****... like finding out folk's personal details and posting them on
the internet for all the spammers and crooks to play with.
You say your name is Erik Funkenbusch. Well, you may be full of
crap. It's a bloody stupid name. So you've been using it online
awhile - so what? I use the name dapunka, everyone knows that ain't
real. But if I called myself Erik Funkenpunka, maybe I could pretend
it's my real name and diss people who use pseudonyms.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On 12 Nov, 06:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> To use your analogy of a "warzone", international law requires soldiers to
> wear uniforms and properly identify themselves, so their actions can be
> properly attributed to them and their army. Otherwise, you have a bunch of
> guys running around, looking like normal citizens, causing havok, and
> there's often no way to tell which side they're on or who was responsible.[/color]
In war, soldiers wear uniform, sure - but they also have a measure of
identification protection. If a pte justifiably shoots a terrorist in
Iraq, and all the other terrorists ask the army for the name and home
address of the shooter, they won't get too far. Special forces wear
balaclavas to hide their identity as well provide flash protection.
In the warzone of COLA, you are the terrorist.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:28:59 -0800, dapunka wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 12 Nov, 06:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> To use your analogy of a "warzone", international law requires soldiers to
>> wear uniforms and properly identify themselves, so their actions can be
>> properly attributed to them and their army. Otherwise, you have a bunch of
>> guys running around, looking like normal citizens, causing havok, and
>> there's often no way to tell which side they're on or who was responsible.[/color]
>
> In war, soldiers wear uniform, sure - but they also have a measure of
> identification protection. If a pte justifiably shoots a terrorist in
> Iraq, and all the other terrorists ask the army for the name and home
> address of the shooter, they won't get too far. Special forces wear
> balaclavas to hide their identity as well provide flash protection.
>
> In the warzone of COLA, you are the terrorist.[/color]
Really? I'm the terrorist. Simply because you disagree with me.
Nice.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
dapunka <dapunka@googlemail.com> espoused:[color=blue]
>
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:26 -0800, dapunka wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > On 11 Nov, 17:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> >> I don't take people that use pseudonyms seriously. You
>> >> have no consequences to your words or actions, and you can say whatever you
>> >> like without fear of it ever coming back to haunt you. That's why you,
>> >> like Daeron, are such a prick all the time.
>> >>
>> >> At least people like Peter K, Jim Richardson, etc.. have the balls to use
>> >> their real names. And as such, they don't say things they wouldn't say in
>> >> real life.
>> >
>> > That's just after-the-fact self-justification Erik. The reason people
>> > use noms de guerre in ngs like this is because ngs like this are /
>> > like/ bloody wars... I don't say **** here I wouldn't say IRL. But
>> > certain folk here (I'm looking at /you/!) who dislike something I say
>> > may want to cause me crap. I dunno why, I guess ass-holery just comes
>> > naturally to some. So I use an obscure pseudonym and a disposable
>> > gmail account. Doesn't mean I'm up to anything bad. Unlike you.[/color]
>>
>> I question the veracity of your claim. If you are afraid of repercussions
>> from your participation in the newsgroup, then you are admitting that you
>> would not say the same things IRL.[/color]
>
> Bull****. IRL I could say anything I like to your face. I'd know
> exactly who you are, where you are. You'd be here, in my face. You
> gave me **** IRL, I'd be able to sort it out with you IRL.
>
> But in ngs like this, some people get up to all kinds of sneaky
> ****... like finding out folk's personal details and posting them on
> the internet for all the spammers and crooks to play with.
>
> You say your name is Erik Funkenbusch. Well, you may be full of
> crap. It's a bloody stupid name. So you've been using it online
> awhile - so what? I use the name dapunka, everyone knows that ain't
> real. But if I called myself Erik Funkenpunka, maybe I could pretend
> it's my real name and diss people who use pseudonyms.
>[/color]
We know what effort Erik and friends will go to in order to stop good
material being posted here. Just look at the problems they caused Roy
at UMIST (or is it UoM?), so much that I ended up offering him access to
my leafnode.
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Re: Hans Reiser story on 20/20 right now
After takin' a swig o' grog, dapunka belched out this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> On 10 Nov, 18:48, Linonut <lino...@be11south.net> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> And it feels like OpenOffice has gotten even faster lately, anyway. I
>> like using it, even though some of the mousing is a bit klunkier than in
>> Tu^H^HWord.[/color]
>
> Gah! A pox on OOo! I've been using the OO word processor rather
> heavily lately, and I'm sick of it. I guess it's okay if you're not
> in a hurry...[/color]
Odd. It works fine for me. Just used it for 30-page slide-show using
our corporate template.
[color=blue]
> I think I'm gonna check out Abiword. The OpenOffice is now closed![/color]
Maybe you need to start doing PDFs.
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lying CUNT Erik Funkenbusch admits to ..
On 10 Nov, 22:21, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> A long time ago, when he was posting from his internet cafe joe job in London, I did some basic searches of UK voting and tax records ..[/color]
Admits to trawling public records to dig up dirt on people who
contradict him ..
[color=blue]
> In any event, recently he was posting as "gary stweart's vagina", which was obvious because he was using a similar proxy, posting style (such as using "--->>>") and attacking people he normally attacks.[/color]
Where do you post from, you lying cunting prick of a Microsoft
astroturfer ...
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funkenbusch is a lying CUNT ..
On 11 Nov, 17:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> The reason, at the time, was clear. He was being abusive and stalking[/color]
Simon Cooke, calling and emailing his employer in an attempt to get
him
fired ..
You lying cunt, Cooke called for the personal details of me and a
number of other posters, in retaliation one of his on-line-buddies
posted his details on another forum. Cooke brought the subject up
here, I felt it only fair to return the compliment.
[color=blue]
> He was trying to use anonyminity to prevent legal consequences for his actions.[/color]
What legal action are you refering to, please provide citations as to
these allegations.
[color=blue]
> you can say whatever you like without fear of it ever coming back to haunt you. That's why you, like Daeron, are such a prick all the time.[/color]
What prick posted personal details of someone after he beat you up too
many times.
[color=blue]
> At least people like Peter K, Jim Richardson, etc.. have the balls to use[/color]
their real names .. You'll also note that nobody has ever tried to
"stalk" them
You forgot to mention your personal crusade against Roy S. Folks this
is what the FunkenTROLL is about when you contradict him. What a total
prick and a polutant on the gene pool.
--
How about this, anyone here got any dirt on Funkenbusch I can post to
the Internet, cash paid !!
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:27 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
[color=blue]
> We know what effort Erik and friends will go to in order to stop good
> material being posted here. Just look at the problems they caused Roy
> at UMIST (or is it UoM?), so much that I ended up offering him access to
> my leafnode.[/color]
I did nothing of the sort, Mark. Why lie like that?
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:27 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>[color=green]
>> We know what effort Erik and friends will go to in order to stop good
>> material being posted here. Just look at the problems they caused Roy
>> at UMIST (or is it UoM?), so much that I ended up offering him access to
>> my leafnode.[/color]
>
> I did nothing of the sort, Mark. Why lie like that?[/color]
You tried your very "best" to portray him as a thief of IP
And your digging up of Rex Balllards story wasn't exactly one of
your "highlights".
In fact, it served well to show what low life scum you are
Face it, Erik, when it comes to compare you to flatfish or DFS, you are just
as disgusting filthy as they are.
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The unsaid part of what you're thinking.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:50:15 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
[color=blue]
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:27 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> We know what effort Erik and friends will go to in order to stop good
>>> material being posted here. Just look at the problems they caused Roy
>>> at UMIST (or is it UoM?), so much that I ended up offering him access to
>>> my leafnode.[/color]
>>
>> I did nothing of the sort, Mark. Why lie like that?[/color]
>
> You tried your very "best" to portray him as a thief of IP[/color]
If I was wrong, why did he take down the image in question? Because the
rightful owner of the work contacted his ISP and demanded his infringing
work be taken down.
And I never called him a thief. Copyright infringement isn't theft. I
called him a pirate.
[color=blue]
> And your digging up of Rex Balllards story wasn't exactly one of
> your "highlights".[/color]
He posted that information publicly to usenet himself. We've been through
that situation dozens of times now. I've appologized to him. He's
accepted. Why don't you just move on?
[color=blue]
> In fact, it served well to show what low life scum you are[/color]
No, it showed a lapse in judgement on my part. You're not pristine
yourself, you know.
[color=blue]
> Face it, Erik, when it comes to compare you to flatfish or DFS, you are just
> as disgusting filthy as they are.[/color]
What makes you such an angry and vitriolic person? You're going to have a
heart attack if you keep this up.
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:50:15 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>[/color]
< snip >
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Face it, Erik, when it comes to compare you to flatfish or DFS, you are
>> just as disgusting filthy as they are.[/color]
>
> What makes you such an angry and vitriolic person?[/color]
You and your gang of filthy trailer trash invading linux groups for no good
reason
You are one of the worst liars in usenet history, and you ask why you are
attacked?
[color=blue]
> You're going to have a heart attack if you keep this up.[/color]
Hardly
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On 2007-11-12, Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> I did nothing of the sort, Mark. Why lie like that?[/color]
>
> You tried your very "best" to portray him as a thief of IP[/color]
Roy used an artist's work, without permission,in a manner that reduced
that artist's ability to license the work to others, and took a long
time to stop when this was brought to his attention. How else would you
portray that?
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Re: smith, where's the proof I nymshift here ..
On Nov 12, 1:55 am, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:26 -0800, dapunka wrote:[color=green]
> > On 11 Nov, 17:55, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
> > wrote:[/color]
>[color=green]
> > <snip>[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> I don't take people that use pseudonyms seriously. You
> >> have no consequences to your words or actions, and you can say whatever you
> >> like without fear of it ever coming back to haunt you. That's why you,
> >> like Daeron, are such a prick all the time.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> At least people like Peter K, Jim Richardson, etc.. have the balls to use
> >> their real names. And as such, they don't say things they wouldn't say in
> >> real life.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > That's just after-the-fact self-justification Erik. The reason people
> > use noms de guerre in ngs like this is because ngs like this are /
> > like/ bloody wars... I don't say **** here I wouldn't say IRL. But
> > certain folk here (I'm looking at /you/!) who dislike something I say
> > may want to cause me crap. I dunno why, I guess ass-holery just comes
> > naturally to some. So I use an obscure pseudonym and a disposable
> > gmail account. Doesn't mean I'm up to anything bad. Unlike you.[/color]
>
> I question the veracity of your claim. If you are afraid of repercussions
> from your participation in the newsgroup, then you are admitting that you
> would not say the same things IRL.[/color]
I don't think so. You are no more "Erik Funkenbusch" to me, than I am
"cc" to you. That goes for Petey Kohlmann, Jim Richardson, etc. I act
the same way here as I do in the normal world, but people can (and
will, just look at this place), do a lot of dick things just because
they know your name online. In real life it's harder to do that kind
of thing, at least anonymously, and there are generally much harsher
repercussions.
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self confessed Usenet stalker Tim Smith wrote ..
On 12 Nov, 23:45, Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Roy used an artist's work, without permission .. and took a long time to stop when this was brought to his attention ..[/color]
In other words, you and the rest of the shills took to stalking him on
his own blog. So much for keeping it in COLA ...
--
anyone here who objects to what I am about here, please **** off in
advance ... :)
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Re: self confessed Usenet stalker Tim Smith wrote ..
Doug Mentohl <doug_mentohl@linuxmail.org> espoused:[color=blue]
> On 12 Nov, 23:45, Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Roy used an artist's work, without permission .. and took a long time to stop when this was brought to his attention ..[/color]
>
> In other words, you and the rest of the shills took to stalking him on
> his own blog. So much for keeping it in COLA ...
>[/color]
I don't think Timmy and friends would balk at any kind of stalking,
anywhere.
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Re: Hans Reiser story on 20/20 right now
On 2007-11-09 06:38, DFS wrote:[color=blue]
> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>[color=green]
>> [snips]
>>
>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:36:55 -0400, Enzyte Bob wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> you are not a true geek.
>>> And I'm not a freak murderer either like Hans Reiser.[/color]
>> He's been convicted, right? I mean, you wouldn't be such an insufferable
>> little prick as to refer to someone as a "freak murderer" unless he'd
>> actually been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, would you?
>>
>> Funny, the conviction wasn't listed in the news update I saw today.[/color]
>
>
> A conviction in court has no relevance whatsoever to the fact that he's a
> freak Linux murderer.
>
> Linux/OSS is very relevant, however; had he worked as a commercial developer
> he wouldn't have been $200,000 in debt and desperate. He would have had
> the peace of mind to deal with his marital problems more amicably than
> bludgeoning or stabbing his wife to death.
>
>
>
>[/color]
And nobody had even heard his name, so you will never know how many
convicted that wrote your softweare, other then the company itself is.
/bb
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Re: Hans Reiser story on 20/20 right now
birre wrote:
[color=blue]
> And nobody had even heard his name, so you will never know how many
> convicted that wrote your softweare, other then the company itself is.[/color]
English not your 1st or 2nd language, eh?
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Re: Hans Reiser story on 20/20 right now
On 2007-11-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.startcom.linux> wrote:[color=blue]
> dapunka wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> I'm not the kind of **** to decide someone's a murderer just cos a TV
>> programme presents him as a wacko.[/color]
>
> I didn't see the 20/20 program.
>[color=green]
>> Any idiot knows that creative
>> editing and selective choice of footage can make anyone look however
>> you want them too.
>>
>> But anyway, as for the "Linux/OSS is very relevant" crap: there have
>> been plenty of cases where wealthy, "successful" types have bumped off
>> their other halves. There have been rich folk who've done it just to
>> become richer...[/color]
>
> And there are a *lot* more cases where poor people have committed such
> crimes.[/color]
That's pretty obvious.
There are a LOT more poor people.
Even if the murder rate among the ultrawealthy is remarkably
higher you're still going to see a much larger bulk of low
class criminals.
[deletia]
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Re: Hans Reiser story on 20/20 right now
On 2007-11-16, HangEveryRepubliKKKan <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote[color=green]
>> Even if the murder rate among the ultrawealthy is remarkably
>> higher you're still going to see a much larger bulk of low
>> class criminals.[/color]
>
> I fail to see the motivation for AmeriKKKan criminality.[/color]
What are you? Vulcan?
Try starting at motivations of passion or gain.
[color=blue]
>
> Ignorance, self loathing, and an excess of time is the only legitimate
> answer I can see.
>
>[/color]
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