In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Geppetto Olivio

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on Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:59:58 -0400
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> "[H]omer" wrote in message news:m587v4-1es.ln1@sky.matrix...
>> Get your Groove on
>>
>> .----
>> | A very traditional niche of scripting languages, (such as Perl,
>> | Python or Ruby), has been in the ad hoc manipulation of databases -
>> | from grabbing data, transforming it, performing bulk updates, right
>> | on through to full-on data migration projects that move data from
>> | one platform or RDBMS to another. Scripting languages are perfect
>> | for these types of task because they are quick to write and test,
>> | can be used interactively while the problem space is being
>> | explored, and because extraneous features - such as graphical user
>> | interface, detailed user documentation and so on - are not
>> | required...
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/10/25/groovy_mysql/
>
>
> Yawn. No... make that BIG yawn.
>
> OSS has finally caught up to what people have been doing on Windows since
> Win2k was released.
>

Try 1988 or 1989.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../06-28sql.mspx

Dunno precisely when the scripting capability came into
play, but it's clear that they could in fact have used SQL
Server in the Win3.1 timeframe -- in some form.

This is not to say Microsoft "innovated" scripting --
I'm not sure who did. But it wasn't Linux, and probably
wasn't Unix either (Ingres is circa 1973 but did AFAIK not
include scripting as such; Ingres was finally ported to
Linux in 1998 but has not really been a factor thereon;
for their parts Postgres indicates 1985 and MySQL 1994:
http://www.osdbmigration.org:8080/os...-timeline/view
).

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Geppetto Olivio did eloquently scribble:
> "[H]omer" wrote in message news:m587v4-1es.ln1@sky.matrix...
>> Get your Groove on
>>
>> .----
>> | A very traditional niche of scripting languages, (such as Perl,
>> | Python or Ruby), has been in the ad hoc manipulation of databases -
>> | from grabbing data, transforming it, performing bulk updates, right
>> | on through to full-on data migration projects that move data from
>> | one platform or RDBMS to another. Scripting languages are perfect
>> | for these types of task because they are quick to write and test,
>> | can be used interactively while the problem space is being
>> | explored, and because extraneous features - such as graphical user
>> | interface, detailed user documentation and so on - are not
>> | required...
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/10/25/groovy_mysql/


> Yawn. No... make that BIG yawn.

> OSS has finally caught up to what people have been doing on Windows since
> Win2k was released.

Finally?!
hahahahahaha






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After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit o' wisdom:

>> OSS has finally caught up to what people have been doing on Windows since
>> Win2k was released.
>
> Try 1988 or 1989.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../06-28sql.mspx
>
> Dunno precisely when the scripting capability came into
> play, but it's clear that they could in fact have used SQL
> Server in the Win3.1 timeframe -- in some form.
>
> This is not to say Microsoft "innovated" scripting --
> I'm not sure who did. But it wasn't Linux, and probably
> wasn't Unix either (Ingres is circa 1973 but did AFAIK not
> include scripting as such; Ingres was finally ported to
> Linux in 1998 but has not really been a factor thereon;
> for their parts Postgres indicates 1985 and MySQL 1994:
> http://www.osdbmigration.org:8080/os...-timeline/view
> ).

Try JCL from IBM?

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut

wrote
on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:12:18 GMT
:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>>> OSS has finally caught up to what people have been doing on
>>> Windows since Win2k was released.
>>
>> Try 1988 or 1989.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../06-28sql.mspx
>>
>> Dunno precisely when the scripting capability came into
>> play, but it's clear that they could in fact have used SQL
>> Server in the Win3.1 timeframe -- in some form.
>>
>> This is not to say Microsoft "innovated" scripting --
>> I'm not sure who did. But it wasn't Linux, and probably
>> wasn't Unix either (Ingres is circa 1973 but did AFAIK not
>> include scripting as such; Ingres was finally ported to
>> Linux in 1998 but has not really been a factor thereon;
>> for their parts Postgres indicates 1985 and MySQL 1994:
>> http://www.osdbmigration.org:8080/os...-timeline/view
>> ).
>
> Try JCL from IBM?
>

OK...though I'm not sure IBM had an RDBMS when DD cards
were all the rage. :-) Then again, I'm not sure they didn't.

A friend of mine has been adamant at the notion
of a "database" being anything from a sophisticated
search/retrieval hardware/software solution to a simple
old-fashioned card catalog (the latter has now been mostly
replaced by the former, of course).

IIRC, the main complexity of DD was that it had to describe
the data format, so that the routines available to the
program could process it properly. I can't say I fiddled
a lot with DD (my main contact with IBM systems was in my
school daze; we had a 4341 running OS/360 and/or VM/CMS,
but someone had JCL capability at our datacenter), but
know they were fun, FSVO "fun" anyway.

On a more contemporary level, pgtcl is a useful library for
those who want to use tcl to access PostgreSQL databases.
PHP is also widely used to access PostgreSQL and MySQL.

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