Sometime 3rd party backups will appear as MPE/V format. Backpack
(a.k.a. Roadrunner) tapes may do this.

Rather than belabor whether it is an MPE/V tape, it may be easier just
to see if it is a 3rd Party Backup tape.

Just go ahead and do a RESTORE of TWO possible files:

FILE T;DEV=7
RESTORE *T;BACKREST.PUB.SYS,ROADREST.PUB.SYS;SHOW

If either one of these files appear on the RESTORE. Then it is a tape
made by a 3rd party backup utility.

Both of these are programs (made by two incarnations of the same
company) that will perform tape restore operations on these tapes only.

Let us know.

Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc.

BT







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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Raulerson
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:34 PM
> To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Hello!
>
>
> IRT VSTORE: Really cool - but - at least a couple of these
> tapes are
> in what the systems tells me are MPEv format. The Listdir and VSTORE
> options won't read 'em.
>
> Is there an older utility to do this?
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:04 AM, John Pitman wrote:
>
> > Paul,
> > welcome...to the madhouse.
> > Model and hardware config details would help.
> > Your first recourse for assistance should be the system help, once
> > you know a command name. Look on the web for an mpe quick

> reference
> > card or manual, they do/did exist.
> > Not sure about a listfiles clogging the network??? I hope you meant
> > listf @.@.@,6
> >
> > re tapes - STORE ;;
> > will do many things to backup files. you will get more data on a
> > tape (if dds type) if you enable compression as in

> 'devctrl 7,enable'
> >
> > Similarly
> > RESTORE ;;
> > will do the reverse.
> > to find out whats on a tape, lookup usage of
> > VSTORE command....
> >
> > SYSGEN has options to make a bootable tape, with optionally user
> > data files as well.
> >
> > eg
> > This is the MPE/iX Help Facility
> > :
> > * Enter SUMMARY, CLASS, a commandname, or HELPSTUDY *
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > SUMMARY . . . . . . . . . . A summary MPE/iX commands & HELP
> >
> > CLASS. . . . . . . . . . Classes of Commands and subsystems
> >
> > < command name >. . . . . . COMMAND entries, by name
> >
> > < command name >< keyword > COMMAND entry with keyword
> > PARMS, OPERATION, EXAMPLE
> >
> > INFO. . . . . . . . . . . . Related online information
> >
> > HELPSTUDY . . . . . . . . . A beginner's introduction to Help
> >
> > EXIT. . . . . . . . . . . . To leave the Help facility.
> >
> > You can use UPPERCASE or lowercase.
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The name of this screen is HELPMENU <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> vstore

> > VSTORE
> >
> > Verifies that the data on a backup media are valid (for example,
> > there are no media errors), and reports errors incurred by STORE
> > when writing the tape. (CM)
> >
> > SYNTAX
> >
> > VSTORE [vstorefile][;filesetlist][;option[;...]]
> >
> > where option is
> >
> > [;SHOW[=showparmlist]]
> >
> > [;ONERR[OR]={QUIT}]
> > {SKIP}
> >
> > [;DIRECTORY]
> > [;PROGRESS[=minutes]]
> >
> > [;COPYACD] [;NOACD]
> > [;TREE] [;NOTREE]
> > [;NODECOMPRESS]
> > (24/38) Continue?
> >
> > [;STOREDIR[ECTORY]=directoryname]
> > [;PART[IAL]DB]
> >
> > [;RESTORESET=(device[,...])]
> >
> > ** TurboSTORE/iX II and TurboSTORE/iX 7x24 True-Online Backup
> > products only:
> >
> > [;RESTORESET=(device[,...])[,(device[,...])[,...]]]
> >
> > [;MOSET=(ldev[,...])[,(ldev[,...])[,...]]]
> > [;NAME=backupname]
> >
> >
> > KEYWORDS: PARMS,OPERATION,EXAMPLE
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Raulerson
> > Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:37 PM
> > To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
> > Subject: [HP3000-L] Hello!
> >
> > I joined the MPE list a few days ago, and they pointed me

> to this list
> > as a bit of a larger resource. I've been lurking about

> noticing some
> > familiar names and enjoying the postings.
> >
> > I just aquired my first HP 3000 machine and have been

> having a great
> > deal of fun getting it to boot and work, and then starting

> to explore
> > MPE/ix. What a fascinating and enjoyable machine! I've been

> having an
> > argument with it about talking on the network, and just got it
> > completely up and operating today. (Thanks to loads of advice from
> > Craig Lalley, Donna Hofmeister, and others - all of whom I

> thank very
> > sincerely.
> >
> > I hope y'all don't mind if I take advantage of your good

> natures and
> > ask some more questions over here... especially so since

> they will be
> > "newbie" questions. To me this is great fun, and a really

> fun way to
> > relax after the pressures of my day job.
> >
> > Well here goes...
> >
> > I have the network (TCP/IP) up and operating, but

> occasionally if I am
> > doing something stupid like "listfiles @.@.@ 6" the output

> data to a
> > terminal over the network will freeze. This has the look of

> a buffer
> > problem, and I did specify 0 (zero) buffers somewhere in the TCP/IP
> > networking setup. Should I go revist this and specify some

> number of
> > buffers? Or is this more a result of the freeware terminal

> emulation
> > clients I am using? (Screenjet, QCTerm, and a demo copy of

> Reflection
> > HP.)
> >
> > Tapes are a fascinating subject - how might one read the

> directory off
> > a tape? I have a few tapes that were sent with the machine, and
> > absolutely no clue of how to find out what is on them.
> >
> > Also, the manual talks about labeling tapes, but I think it means
> > actually physical labels! Do I need to to somehow initialize a tape
> > with a standard, ansi, or no label format?
> >
> > And speaking of which, can I back up the entire system to a

> tape? Do I
> > need to do that with an ISL utility?
> >
> > Alternatively, can I attach some external DASD and back up

> the system
> > volume to one of those?
> >
> > Is the only console on the machine the serial port console?

> Is there a
> > way to get access to a remote console, especially to power

> the machine
> > on and off remotely? I'm think iLO or the equivalent...)
> >
> > Pretty obviously I am at the point where I am concerned

> with making a
> > copy of the system in case the drive fails or I trash

> something. The
> > machine had a pretty rough ride with UPS getting here, and I have
> > little trust in a drive this old.
> >
> > I sure would appreciate any pointers you folks are willing

> to share. I
> > also welcome good stories about the machine, as I tend to paste the
> > stories in my machine notebook and read them later -

> sometimes years
> > later.
> >
> > Yours,
> > -Paul
> >
> > Paul Rauleson, Georgetown, Texas
> >
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