At your logon, check the UDC's you have set and there may be a clue there as to why your DB files are opened.

HTH

>From: Brian Donaldson
>Date: 2008/07/27 Sun PM 07:30:44 EDT
>To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)


>>I can't answer for why files that have not been touched made it on the

>partial. Did you do a listf, -3 to see access dates, modification dates,
>etc... for example if you do a PRINT ;SEARCH within MPEX without the
>KEEPAMDATES parameter, it may change the access dates.
>
>
>No one else is accessing my system at all other than myself.
>
>The last time this database was accessed was at 1:02 this morning which is
>correct.
>
>However, I did not do the full system backup until around 7am.........
>
>The partial backup did not happen until about 1pm....
>
>FILE: SNTINL04.DATABASE.DEV
>
>FILE CODE : -401 FOPTIONS: BINARY,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
>BLK FACTOR: 1 CREATOR : MGR.DEV
>REC SIZE: 2816(BYTES) LOCKWORD:
> GROUP ID: DEV
>BLK SIZE: 2816(BYTES) SECURITY--READ: ANY
>EXT SIZE: 319(SECT) WRITE: ANY
>NUM REC: 926 APPEND: ANY
>NUM SEC: 10192 LOCK: ANY
>NUM EXT: 1 EXECUTE: ANY
>MAX REC: 926 **SECURITY IS ON
>MAX EXT: 32 FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS
>NUM LABELS: 1 CREATED : SUN, JUL 10, 2005, 5:09 PM
>MAX LABELS: 1 MODIFIED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 1:02 AM
>DISC DEV #: 2 ACCESSED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 1:02 AM
> RESTORED: THU, JUN 12, 2008, 9:49 PM
> STATE : MON, JUL 7, 2008, 6:54 AM
>SEC OFFSET: 0 LABEL ADDR: $0000005E.$00134420
>UFID : $056C0002 $1A4DE4A5 $001344D8 $55031832 $0350ED02
>VOLCLASS : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SETISC
>********************
>FILE: /DEV/DATABASE/SNTINL04.idx
>
>FILE CODE : -412 FOPTIONS: BINARY,FIXED,NOCCTL,KSAMXL
>BLK FACTOR: 170 OWNER : MGR.DEV UID: 139
>REC SIZE: 20(BYTES) GROUP ID: DEV GID: 119
>BLK SIZE: 4096(BYTES) SECURITY--READ: ANY
>EXT SIZE: 0(SECT) WRITE: ANY
>NUM REC: 373 APPEND: ANY
>NUM SEC: 4032 LOCK: ANY
>NUM EXT: 2 EXECUTE: ANY
>MAX REC: 57613 **SECURITY IS ON
> FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS
>NUM LABELS: 1 CREATED : WED, JUN 18, 2008, 9:36 PM
>MAX LABELS: 1 MODIFIED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 1:02 AM
>DISC DEV #: 1 ACCESSED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 1:02 AM
> RESTORED: WED, JUN 18, 2008, 9:36 PM
> STATE : SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 12:38 AM
>SEC OFFSET: 0 LABEL ADDR: $00000013.$00134D20
>UFID : $056C0001 $1A4DE4A5 $00134DD8 $55052448 $04A2CBEA
>VOLCLASS : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SETISC
>
>
>
>On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:02:53 -0700, Bahrs, Art
>wrote:
>
>>Hi All
>> I seem to recall some unusual behavior with the online backup durations

>when I had a process or user holding onto things (usually quietly in a
>manner not easily observed)
>>
>>You might want to check who and what is on the process trees?
>>
>>
>>Sent via PDA
>>Thanks
>>Art Bahrs
>>Security Engineer
>>arthur.bahrs@providence.org
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Craig Lalley
>>Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2008 1:25 PM
>>To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)
>>
>>Brian,
>>
>>I can't answer for why files that have not been touched made it on the

>partial. Did you do a listf, -3 to see access dates, modification dates,
>etc... for example if you do a PRINT ;SEARCH within MPEX without the
>KEEPAMDATES parameter, it may change the access dates.
>>
>>However, do yourself a favor, Friends don't let friends use the INTER

>option. :-) If the tape is ever corrupt, you have virtually no chance of
>recovering any file. W/O INTER, you may be able to get everything BUT the
>damaged file.
>>
>>Also, try using MAXTAPEBUF, I have seen it work wonders, usually a 30%

>improvement in speed.
>>
>>-Craig
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Brian Donaldson wrote:
>>
>>> From: Brian Donaldson
>>> Subject: Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)
>>> To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
>>> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 2:56 PM
>>> Today, 07/27/2008, I did a full system backup thus:
>>>
>>> !STORE
>>> @.@.@;*T;SHOW;PROGRESS=15;INTER;STATISTICS;DIRECTO RY;&
>>> !ONLINE=START;PARTIALDB;COMPRESS=LOW
>>>
>>> Worked just fine (I'm just a bit concerned about the
>>> time it takes tho -- 7+
>>> hours)
>>>
>>> After the backup was done I immediately did a nightly
>>> backup thus --
>>> STORE
>>>

>@.@.@;*T;SHOW;PROGRESS=5;DATES>=07/27/2008;INTER;STATISTICS;DIRECTORY;ONLINE=START;PARTI ALDB;COMPRESS=LOW
>>>
>>> This partial backup had a bunch of files on it that
>>> shouldn't have been on
>>> it -- two or three different TurboIMAGE databases that had
>>> not been accessed
>>> since 07/26/2008 or before.
>>>
>>> No other users on the box except for me....
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me why these files were on this partial
>>> backup?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Brian Donaldson.
>>>
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