Craig,

Yes, I know what you say is probably true.

I think the phrase altruistic politician is a contradiction of terms.

However, I can live in hope...I reckon the glass is half full. )

Cheers,

John Dunlop

On Jul 5 2008, Craig Lalley wrote:



--- On Sat, 7/5/08, John Dunlop wrote:

I can't wait for Obama to get into the White House and start righting the
wrongs.

*******************************

John,

While I don't agree with Denys, I sincerely doubt Obama is different than
any other politician.* Obama certainly has not show himself to be any
different.*

His supporters are different though, most think he is the Messiah. Thus
bring a new meaning to the phrase "separation of Church and State".



-Craig

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Growing up in Chicago I have a inbred mistrust of any politician who comes out of Cook County. Can anyone name an honest politician from Chicago?

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf Of Craig Lalley
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:11 AM
To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
Subject: Re: Gas and The 4th of July

--- On Sat, 7/5/08, John Dunlop wrote:

I can't wait for Obama to get into the White House and start righting the wrongs.

*******************************

John,

While I don't agree with Denys, I sincerely doubt Obama is different than any other politician.* Obama certainly has not show himself to be any different.*

His supporters are different though, most think he is the Messiah. Thus bring a new meaning to the phrase "separation of Church and State".



-Craig

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Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana, comes to mind.


There are many honest politicians, but since they are not in the news, they
are ignored.

Now, in the case of BO, we have dangerous ignorance. His latest display of
ignorance is when he says he "will call my Joint Chiefs of Staff in and give
them a new assignment that is to end the war."

I'm not thrilled to see that BO will do everything he can to snatch defeat
from the jaws of victory, but talk about abject IGNORANCE; the JSC are not
part of the command structure, they only advise the president. This ain't
Hollywood, BO; this is real life. You would need to talk to your Secretary
of Defense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff

We are in for a rough time.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:25 AM
To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Gas and The 4th of July

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Johnson, Ted wrote:

Growing up in Chicago I have a inbred mistrust of any politician who comes
out
of Cook County. Can anyone name an honest politician from Chicago?

****************
Ted,

No need to be hard on Chicago.* Can anyone name an honest politician?

-Craig




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Denys,

Your choice?

1. Ask the secretary of defense, who was a captain in the Navy, to come
up with a plan to invade Iraq, a land locked country.

2. Ask the Joint Chiefs of staffs for advice on how to get out of Iraq.

I pick number 2.

Andy Schriber

Denys Beauchemin wrote:
> Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana, comes to mind.
>
>
> There are many honest politicians, but since they are not in the news, they
> are ignored.
>
> Now, in the case of BO, we have dangerous ignorance. His latest display of
> ignorance is when he says he "will call my Joint Chiefs of Staff in and give
> them a new assignment that is to end the war."
>
> I'm not thrilled to see that BO will do everything he can to snatch defeat
> from the jaws of victory, but talk about abject IGNORANCE; the JSC are not
> part of the command structure, they only advise the president. This ain't
> Hollywood, BO; this is real life. You would need to talk to your Secretary
> of Defense.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff
>
> We are in for a rough time.
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf
> Of Craig Lalley
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:25 AM
> To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Gas and The 4th of July
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Johnson, Ted wrote:
>
> Growing up in Chicago I have a inbred mistrust of any politician who comes
> out
> of Cook County. Can anyone name an honest politician from Chicago?
>
> ****************
> Ted,
>
> No need to be hard on Chicago. Can anyone name an honest politician?
>
> -Craig
>
>
>
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