My mother language is spanish, I dont have any issue using the
calculator in english (I hate the way the Texas calculators supports
multilanguages changing functions and commands, for example:
"Integrate" is "Integrar" in spanish) but I can help translating the
resources of the HP.

I'd like to help you translating messages in Italian or, at least,
giving it a try!

Ciao,

Stefano

Andreas Möller a écrit :
> Dear Group,
>
> As some of you might know the 49G is capable (to some degree) of three
> languages. I do not believe that the built in French and Spanish
> messages will be extended in the future because the ROM is almost full
> and there are still errors in the ROM which should be fixed first by
> HP. Also HP doesn't seem to have any interests to make localized
> version of the 49G available.
>
> The system RPL word SETMSG allows exchanging of built-in messages
> arrays but is restricted to non covered memory. Furthermore the
> infamous STO bug resets the built-in messages if something is stored
> in a port.
>
> However, I have developed an engine for allowing translation of all
> built-in messages arrays (around 2100 to 2200). The engine is written
> in ML (around 600 Bytes). For acceleration it is
> loaded to a protected memory area at start and circumvents the STO
> bug. The messages can reside in any port. Once loaded, exchanging the
> message is fast, it slows down each key-press at around 0,2
> milliseconds and has gone through extensive testing and proven to be
> stable.
>
> Now, since it doesn't looks like HP is going to release complete
> language packs (not to mention to move the messages which are still
> hard coded in some built-in application to messages arrays) and since
> I already have enough trouble with my mother tongue and do not speak
> Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, I'd like to start a poll if you
>
> - would like to have a native speaking version of your 49G/49G+/50G
> (assuming that you're not a native English speaker)?
> - if you would like to have one, how much are you willing to pay for
> it? Developing the engine and translating all messages takes a lot of
> time and effort.
> - willing to help to translate the message to your preferred language
> (of course you'll get a copy of it ;-). A template source file for
> this is available on request.
>
> If you want to translate the built-in messages please keep the length
> of the translation in mind, if the translated text is to long for a
> message box it will be truncated, but a message longer than 32
> characters will crash the calc if used as a help string for the new
> IfMain2 engine, for example. Also the message might be to long for a
> field in an InformBox. So some creativity for translation is needed
> and also the use of some abbreviations...
>
> An example of a 49G running completely in German can be found on my
> website
> www.software49g.gmxhome.de.
>
> Greetings and TIA
> Andreas
>

Personnally I will always stick to the original english language.

Herve,
Paris, France

Are all the non native english speakers in this group so satisfied
with their calc running in English?

Are you using your mobile telephone in English, too ?

Come one, it is a one time investment to teach the calc another
language...
It memorizes very well ;-)

Greetings
Andreas
http://www.software49g.gmxhome.de

On 6 Mai, 09:30, Herve Chappe
wrote:
> Andreas Möller a écrit :
>
>
>
> > Dear Group,
>
> > As some of you might know the 49G is capable (to some degree) of three
> > languages. I do not believe that the built in French and Spanish
> > messages will be extended in the future because the ROM is almost full
> > and there are still errors in the ROM which should be fixed first by
> > HP. Also HP doesn't seem to have any interests to make localized
> > version of the 49G available.
>
> > The system RPL word SETMSG allows exchanging of built-in messages
> > arrays but is restricted to non covered memory. Furthermore the
> > infamous STO bug resets the built-in messages if something is stored
> > in a port.
>
> > However, I have developed an engine for allowing translation of all
> > built-in messages arrays (around 2100 to 2200). The engine is written
> > in ML (around 600 Bytes). For acceleration it is
> > loaded to a protected memory area at start and circumvents the STO
> > bug. The messages can reside in any port. Once loaded, exchanging the
> > message is fast, it slows down each key-press at around 0,2
> > milliseconds and has gone through extensive testing and proven to be
> > stable.
>
> > Now, since it doesn't looks like HP is going to release complete
> > language packs (not to mention to move the messages which are still
> > hard coded in some built-in application to messages arrays) and since
> > I already have enough trouble with my mother tongue and do not speak
> > Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, I'd like to start a poll if you
>
> > - would like to have a native speaking version of your 49G/49G+/50G
> > (assuming that you're not a native English speaker)?
> > - if you would like to have one, how much are you willing to pay for
> > it? Developing the engine and translating all messages takes a lot of
> > time and effort.
> > - willing to help to translate the message to your preferred language
> > (of course you'll get a copy of it ;-). A template source file for
> > this is available on request.
>
> > If you want to translate the built-in messages please keep the length
> > of the translation in mind, if the translated text is to long for a
> > message box it will be truncated, but a message longer than 32
> > characters will crash the calc if used as a help string for the new
> > IfMain2 engine, for example. Also the message might be to long for a
> > field in an InformBox. So some creativity for translation is needed
> > and also the use of some abbreviations...
>
> > An example of a 49G running completely in German can be found on my
> > website
> >www.software49g.gmxhome.de.
>
> > Greetings and TIA
> > Andreas
>
> Personnally I will always stick to the original english language.
>
> Herve,
> Paris, France

Well, my mother language is Portuguese, so I could help with it.

I wouldn't use it in portuguese but I'm sure most of the portuguese
speaking people would....
And there is a lot of HPs at the brazilian engineering universities.

Send me and e-mail with the file and I'll see how much time it's going
to take to do it....

Hello Rodrigo,

did you get my mail ?

Greetings
Andreas

On 18 Mai, 03:18, rodrigoob...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, my mother language is Portuguese, so I could help with it.
>
> I wouldn't use it in portuguese but I'm sure most of the portuguese
> speaking people would....
> And there is a lot of HPs at the brazilian engineering universities.
>
> Send me and e-mail with the file and I'll see how much time it's going
> to take to do it....

On 5 Mag, 23:28, Andreas Möller wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> As some of you might know the 49G is capable (to some degree) of three
> languages. I do not believe that the built in French and Spanish
> messages will be extended in the future because the ROM is almost full
> and there are still errors in the ROM which should be fixed first by
> HP. Also HP doesn't seem to have any interests to make localized
> version of the 49G available.
>
> The system RPL word SETMSG allows exchanging of built-in messages
> arrays but is restricted to non covered memory. Furthermore the
> infamous STO bug resets the built-in messages if something is stored
> in a port.
>
> However, I have developed an engine for allowing translation of all
> built-in messages arrays (around 2100 to 2200). The engine is written
> in ML (around 600 Bytes). For acceleration it is
> loaded to a protected memory area at start and circumvents the STO
> bug. The messages can reside in any port. Once loaded, exchanging the
> message is fast, it slows down each key-press at around 0,2
> milliseconds and has gone through extensive testing and proven to be
> stable.
>
> Now, since it doesn't looks like HP is going to release complete
> language packs (not to mention to move the messages which are still
> hard coded in some built-in application to messages arrays) and since
> I already have enough trouble with my mother tongue and do not speak
> Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, I'd like to start a poll if you
>
> - would like to have a native speaking version of your 49G/49G+/50G
> (assuming that you're not a native English speaker)?
> - if you would like to have one, how much are you willing to pay for
> it? Developing the engine and translating all messages takes a lot of
> time and effort.
> - willing to help to translate the message to your preferred language
> (of course you'll get a copy of it ;-). A template source file for
> this is available on request.
>
> If you want to translate the built-in messages please keep the length
> of the translation in mind, if the translated text is to long for a
> message box it will be truncated, but a message longer than 32
> characters will crash the calc if used as a help string for the new
> IfMain2 engine, for example. Also the message might be to long for a
> field in an InformBox. So some creativity for translation is needed
> and also the use of some abbreviations...
>
> An example of a 49G running completely in German can be found on my
> websitewww.software49g.gmxhome.de.
>
> Greetings and TIA
> Andreas

Hi Andreas.
Even though a suport for Italian labguage has already been ofered by
Stefano earlier in this thread, I'd like to offer mine too (if still
required).
Please feel free to send me a chunk of the messages you need to be
translated in italian, along with any recommendation you may feel
appropriate (please consider that my support would be limited to the
bare translation, because as a SysRPL user I'm still at the starting
line ;-)
Best regards.
Giuancarlo

"Andreas Möller" wrote in message
news:1178400522.480507.70470@u30g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> Dear Group,
X
> However, I have developed an engine for allowing translation of all
> built-in messages arrays (around 2100 to 2200). The engine is written
> in ML (around 600 Bytes). For acceleration it is
> loaded to a protected memory area at start and circumvents the STO
> bug. The messages can reside in any port. Once loaded, exchanging the
> message is fast, it slows down each key-press at around 0,2
> milliseconds and has gone through extensive testing and proven to be
> stable.
X
> An example of a 49G running completely in German can be found on my
> website
> www.software49g.gmxhome.de.
>
> Greetings and TIA
> Andreas

YES, PLEASE!