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  1. Re: Spool File Question

    i agree with gilles....however i don't know if you have the ability to make such a change.

    this seems like a question best asked of your 911 software vendor, but i'm guessing you're asking here because they're unable to help.

    perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about 'the application' that would help us understand your question better. is 'the application' a job/server? - d

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    dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
    925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores

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    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Gilles Schipper
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:46:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question


    I think the only way you could do that would be to actually modify
    the application program to periodically (say, for example, every 10
    pages or every 100 pages) close then re-open the print file.




    At 01:17 PM 2007-03-27, Robert Holtz wrote:
    >We have out 911 interface running on our HP3000 24x7. Once a week, we
    >abort the application to close out the spool file that the application
    >generates. Is there a way to keep the application running and redirect
    >the output to a new spool file?
    >
    >We are running MPE 7.0 PP2 and this is on an N-Class e3000 system.
    >
    >
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Robert Holtz
    >
    >Senior Information Technology Systems Specialist
    >
    >Phoenix Police Department
    >
    >
    >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
    >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *
    >
    >
    >
    >--
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    >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
    >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date:
    >2007-03-26 2:31 PM


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    GSA Inc.
    HP System Administration Specialists
    300 John Street, Box 87651 Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
    Voice: 905.889.3000 Fax: 905.889.3001
    email: gilles@gsainc.com web: http://www.gsainc.com
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  2. Re: Spool File Question

    Hello Donna, Gilles and Robert

    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away... Called SRN's IRIS product ...
    we had a similar problem that was addressed by setting the application
    parameters to build spoolfiles with max page counts so that we would break
    a 25,000 page print out into say... 100 spoofl's of 250 pages... helped
    with printing 'em when the printer jammed ..

    I can't remember the syntax for the spoolf that handles this... but
    maybe someone else can supply it? Maybe the 911 software has a similar
    "setting" somewhere in it? I remember I had to call SRN Tech Support (I
    was on a first name basis with 'em all ) to figure out how to set this
    within the software as the setting was buried in a KSAM file.

    Art "Changeing Gig's again " Bahrs
    P.S. Wayne Holt should be able to answer this if he is still around?

    ================================================== =====
    Art Bahrs, CISSP Corporate Reporting The Regence Group
    (503) 225-4992 Cell 971-244-2459 FAX (503)
    220-3806



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    i agree with gilles....however i don't know if you have the ability to make
    such a change.

    this seems like a question best asked of your 911 software vendor, but i'm
    guessing you're asking here because they're unable to help.

    perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about 'the application' that would
    help us understand your question better. is 'the application' a
    job/server? - d

    -----
    Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
    dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
    925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores

    >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<



    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Gilles Schipper
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:46:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question


    I think the only way you could do that would be to actually modify
    the application program to periodically (say, for example, every 10
    pages or every 100 pages) close then re-open the print file.




    At 01:17 PM 2007-03-27, Robert Holtz wrote:
    >We have out 911 interface running on our HP3000 24x7. Once a week, we
    >abort the application to close out the spool file that the application
    >generates. Is there a way to keep the application running and redirect
    >the output to a new spool file?
    >
    >We are running MPE 7.0 PP2 and this is on an N-Class e3000 system.
    >
    >
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Robert Holtz
    >
    >Senior Information Technology Systems Specialist
    >
    >Phoenix Police Department
    >
    >
    >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
    >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >No virus found in this incoming message.
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
    >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date:
    >2007-03-26 2:31 PM


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Gilles Schipper
    GSA Inc.
    HP System Administration Specialists
    300 John Street, Box 87651 Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
    Voice: 905.889.3000 Fax: 905.889.3001
    email: gilles@gsainc.com web: http://www.gsainc.com
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  3. Re: Spool File Question

    Dumb question

    Is this actually a print file or are we talking about the standard list from
    the job?

    I have seen server jobs which log activity to stdlist running for months on
    end until the spool file got nastily big.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On Behalf
    Of Art Bahrs
    Sent: 27 March 2007 19:54
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question

    Hello Donna, Gilles and Robert

    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away... Called SRN's IRIS product ...
    we had a similar problem that was addressed by setting the application
    parameters to build spoolfiles with max page counts so that we would break
    a 25,000 page print out into say... 100 spoofl's of 250 pages... helped
    with printing 'em when the printer jammed ..

    I can't remember the syntax for the spoolf that handles this... but
    maybe someone else can supply it? Maybe the 911 software has a similar
    "setting" somewhere in it? I remember I had to call SRN Tech Support (I
    was on a first name basis with 'em all ) to figure out how to set this
    within the software as the setting was buried in a KSAM file.

    Art "Changeing Gig's again " Bahrs
    P.S. Wayne Holt should be able to answer this if he is still around?

    ================================================== =====
    Art Bahrs, CISSP Corporate Reporting The Regence Group
    (503) 225-4992 Cell 971-244-2459 FAX (503)
    220-3806



    "Donna
    Hofmeister"
    nna@YAHOO.COM> HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Sent by: cc
    "HP-3000
    Systems Subject
    Discussion" Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question
    N.UTC.EDU>


    03/27/2007
    11:32 AM


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    i agree with gilles....however i don't know if you have the ability to make
    such a change.

    this seems like a question best asked of your 911 software vendor, but i'm
    guessing you're asking here because they're unable to help.

    perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about 'the application' that would
    help us understand your question better. is 'the application' a
    job/server? - d

    -----
    Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
    dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
    925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores

    >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<



    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Gilles Schipper
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:46:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question


    I think the only way you could do that would be to actually modify
    the application program to periodically (say, for example, every 10
    pages or every 100 pages) close then re-open the print file.




    At 01:17 PM 2007-03-27, Robert Holtz wrote:
    >We have out 911 interface running on our HP3000 24x7. Once a week, we
    >abort the application to close out the spool file that the application
    >generates. Is there a way to keep the application running and redirect
    >the output to a new spool file?
    >
    >We are running MPE 7.0 PP2 and this is on an N-Class e3000 system.
    >
    >
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Robert Holtz
    >
    >Senior Information Technology Systems Specialist
    >
    >Phoenix Police Department
    >
    >
    >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
    >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >No virus found in this incoming message.
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
    >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date:
    >2007-03-26 2:31 PM


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    GSA Inc.
    HP System Administration Specialists
    300 John Street, Box 87651 Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
    Voice: 905.889.3000 Fax: 905.889.3001
    email: gilles@gsainc.com web: http://www.gsainc.com
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  4. Re: Spool File Question

    Ken,
    The spool file is generated through the standard list when the job is
    started. Currently, in 1 week, we generate a spool file that runs about
    3.6 million lines. Just how big is "nastily big"?

    Regards,
    Robert Holtz

    -----Original Message-----
    From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On
    Behalf Of Ken Vickers
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:08 PM
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question

    Dumb question

    Is this actually a print file or are we talking about the standard list
    from
    the job?

    I have seen server jobs which log activity to stdlist running for months
    on
    end until the spool file got nastily big.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU] On
    Behalf
    Of Art Bahrs
    Sent: 27 March 2007 19:54
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question

    Hello Donna, Gilles and Robert

    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away... Called SRN's IRIS product
    ....
    we had a similar problem that was addressed by setting the application
    parameters to build spoolfiles with max page counts so that we would
    break
    a 25,000 page print out into say... 100 spoofl's of 250 pages... helped
    with printing 'em when the printer jammed ..

    I can't remember the syntax for the spoolf that handles this... but
    maybe someone else can supply it? Maybe the 911 software has a similar
    "setting" somewhere in it? I remember I had to call SRN Tech Support (I
    was on a first name basis with 'em all ) to figure out how to set
    this
    within the software as the setting was buried in a KSAM file.

    Art "Changeing Gig's again " Bahrs
    P.S. Wayne Holt should be able to answer this if he is still around?

    ================================================== =====
    Art Bahrs, CISSP Corporate Reporting The Regence Group
    (503) 225-4992 Cell 971-244-2459 FAX (503)
    220-3806




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    i agree with gilles....however i don't know if you have the ability to
    make
    such a change.

    this seems like a question best asked of your 911 software vendor, but
    i'm
    guessing you're asking here because they're unable to help.

    perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about 'the application' that
    would
    help us understand your question better. is 'the application' a
    job/server? - d

    -----
    Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
    dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
    925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores

    >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<



    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Gilles Schipper
    To: HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:46:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Spool File Question


    I think the only way you could do that would be to actually modify
    the application program to periodically (say, for example, every 10
    pages or every 100 pages) close then re-open the print file.




    At 01:17 PM 2007-03-27, Robert Holtz wrote:
    >We have out 911 interface running on our HP3000 24x7. Once a week, we
    >abort the application to close out the spool file that the application
    >generates. Is there a way to keep the application running and redirect
    >the output to a new spool file?
    >
    >We are running MPE 7.0 PP2 and this is on an N-Class e3000 system.
    >
    >
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Robert Holtz
    >
    >Senior Information Technology Systems Specialist
    >
    >Phoenix Police Department
    >
    >
    >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
    >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >No virus found in this incoming message.
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
    >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date:
    >2007-03-26 2:31 PM


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----
    ---------------------

    Gilles Schipper
    GSA Inc.
    HP System Administration Specialists
    300 John Street, Box 87651 Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
    Voice: 905.889.3000 Fax: 905.889.3001
    email: gilles@gsainc.com web: http://www.gsainc.com
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  5. Re: Spool File Question

    > The spool file is generated through the standard list when the job is
    > started. Currently, in 1 week, we generate a spool file that runs about
    > 3.6 million lines. Just how big is "nastily big"?


    I think you pass that about Wednesday morning...

    What do you do with this stdlist? Do you print it, save it to disc, or just
    delete it?

    It is possible to redirect the stdlist on the run command (;STDLIST=), which
    can send the output to another file (message or circular) or even $NULL.

    Mark W.

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