OT: Value of Graduate Degrees - Hewlett Packard

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    Hi All
    Ok./.. doing the performance eval/professional Development thing here at
    the office.... well not really at the office as I am on military duty this
    week.... ahhh... so good to be back in the Combat Arms after so many
    years... young PFC looked at me and said, "man SFC!! I wasn't even Born
    when you enlisted!!!!" sigh.... ( said in my best Charlie Brown Voice
    hehe )

    Ok... Topic of the post is MBA what do you think... .the path being
    considered is managment within the Information Security realm of various
    size corporartions... with an Eye towards director level... I have 20
    years exzperience doing lots of things within the computer field... but the
    budgeting and business side is definitely not my strongest of suites...

    What do all you think? I know we have lots of people with lots of varied
    roads of experience and education... so good place to ask

    Art "sorry for the typing... took a chunk out of the hand today... " Bahrs

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    > Ok... Topic of the post is MBA what do you think... .the path being
    > considered is managment within the Information Security realm of various
    > size corporartions... with an Eye towards director level... I have 20
    > years exzperience doing lots of things within the computer field... but the
    > budgeting and business side is definitely not my strongest of suites...


    Like Wirt, my wife teaches evolutionary ecology/biology and she often teaches
    students who are on an "IT" track. When I meet these students, they ask me
    what classes they should take. I tell them that if they want jobs in
    technology that they should take jobs in other areas and not just in
    technology. For example, if they want to be in businesses IT then they must
    understand accounting. This is important because often the IT department
    reports to the controller or CFO but it's important to know the costs and
    benefits of your decisions. (It is probably useful for understanding SOX
    requirements as well.)

    More importantly, I feel that people should learn all they can whenever they
    can. I wouldn't get an MBA for the sake of having an MBA. Often, the mind-set
    is once one gets a certain degree, one can stop learning. People treat it as a
    destination. But those in academia know that learning never ends and they
    create an environment where learning continues after the degree through
    papers, symposia, etc.

    A colleague and I once took a course in "Internet Programming". It was
    basically a course on Unix socket programming in C. This was in the early
    '90s. I can't tell you how beneficial that class has been for me. But I didn't
    know it was going to be useful at the time. I follow all of the trends even if
    I think they're full of crap. I got APICS certified and understand about
    logistics and resource management. I learned EDI processes and saw how
    different companies implement their business processes. I've dabbled in Six
    Sigma quality systems. I also learned about claims processing. All of these
    areas have common problems but understanding the applications makes me easier
    to work with than other technology professionals - even if they're more
    talented than I.

    The point is not to specialize in one thing but to develop a core hub of
    knowledge that helps you understand how everything works together. It makes
    you worth more because specialist can be replaced with other specialists but
    people with a higher level view will do better when they get to higher levels.
    The value in the graduate degree isn't in the degree, it's in the education.

    Mark W.

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