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I am running Mandrake 9.2 at the moment.I am considering upgrading to
Mandrake 10.
Is it possible to perform the upgrade by using VNC remotely and if so how do
you start the upgrade from the CD once Mandrake is running and I have loged
on to the box through VNC?
On Thu, 13 May 2004 10:47:12 +0100, Paul <hardrockingdad@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> I am running Mandrake 9.2 at the moment.I am considering upgrading to
> Mandrake 10.[/color]
[color=blue]
> Is it possible to perform the upgrade by using VNC remotely and if so how do
> you start the upgrade from the CD once Mandrake is running and I have loged
> on to the box through VNC?[/color]
Don't even try. In Windoze, major version upgrades, like Win98 > XP or
in Linux, full number upgrades like 9.2 > 10.0 can go badly. You'll
probably get much better results in either case with clean installs.
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Registered Linux user #266531
Crashdamage <03z1krd7@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:<c99e7c056356da078951a5460c47a283@news.teranews.com>...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 10:47:12 +0100, Paul <hardrockingdad@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
> > I am running Mandrake 9.2 at the moment.I am considering upgrading to
> > Mandrake 10.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Is it possible to perform the upgrade by using VNC remotely and if so how do
> > you start the upgrade from the CD once Mandrake is running and I have loged
> > on to the box through VNC?[/color]
>
> Don't even try. In Windoze, major version upgrades, like Win98 > XP or
> in Linux, full number upgrades like 9.2 > 10.0 can go badly. You'll
> probably get much better results in either case with clean installs.[/color]
Thats a bit of a generalisation. An upgrade from Slackware 8.1 to 9.1
is pretty straight forward. I think the Debian crowd may also have a
chip to throw in. Sure, if you're not sure what you're doing a fresh
install is going to be quicker, but then you miss out on all the fun
;-)
It is possible with Mandrake as well. Mandrake 10's installer update
feature will update a 9.2 box just fine, but of course that means
being in front of the box. If you're going via VNC to a machine
several miles away, you're going to have to upgrade the packages
manually. I'm not a major mandrake user so I can't tell you the exact
steps to updating all the rpms and rpm database, but I'm sure many
people in the mandrake community will be able to help :)
So at the end of the day, I'd say give it a go. The worst that can
happen is that you'll learn a bunch of stuff!
Mattias Honrendgard sat down at the computer and pounded the following
into the keyboard:
[color=blue]
> So at the end of the day, I'd say give it a go. The worst that can happen
> is that you'll learn a bunch of stuff![/color]
I'd agree, it can be done without too much hassle. Standard disclaimer to
backup /home and any other important data structures prior to upgrading.
Even if the installer isn't going to much with the /home directory at all,
if things go wrong you may get drunk out of frustration, then repartition
the drive without thinking about your data.[1]
But before I advised upgrading from 9.2 to 10, I'd have to ask "why?" If
there's something very specific in 10 that you want, you can just install
that package and save some trouble. If you're happy with 9.2, well, this
isn't Windows -- you don't need to upgrade every time a new version comes
out. If you wanted bleeding edge, you probably shouldn't be on Mandrake
anyway. If you want to run 2.6.x kernel, they work fine under 9.2
(I've got a laptop with that configuration). The only reason I can
imagine for upgrading from 9.2 to 10 would be if there were a large number
of 10 features that you want, and it's easier to reinstall than upgrade
them individually -- which may be the case, I'm just curious.
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[1] Trust me on this one.
I just wanted to try mandrake 10 out,but from what I've read it seems not to
be a good idea just yet anyway.I don't really need to have bleeding edge
particularly,I will stick with 9.2.
I've installed Linux in the past,but not sat down and got my hands dirty
with it until now so will stick with 9.2 for now :-)
"Jimmy Brokaw" <hedgie@hedgie.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.05.13.22.03.06.35016@hedgie.com...[color=blue]
> Mattias Honrendgard sat down at the computer and pounded the following
> into the keyboard:
>[color=green]
> > So at the end of the day, I'd say give it a go. The worst that can[/color][/color]
happen[color=blue][color=green]
> > is that you'll learn a bunch of stuff![/color]
>
> I'd agree, it can be done without too much hassle. Standard disclaimer to
> backup /home and any other important data structures prior to upgrading.
> Even if the installer isn't going to much with the /home directory at all,
> if things go wrong you may get drunk out of frustration, then repartition
> the drive without thinking about your data.[1]
>
> But before I advised upgrading from 9.2 to 10, I'd have to ask "why?" If
> there's something very specific in 10 that you want, you can just install
> that package and save some trouble. If you're happy with 9.2, well, this
> isn't Windows -- you don't need to upgrade every time a new version comes
> out. If you wanted bleeding edge, you probably shouldn't be on Mandrake
> anyway. If you want to run 2.6.x kernel, they work fine under 9.2
> (I've got a laptop with that configuration). The only reason I can
> imagine for upgrading from 9.2 to 10 would be if there were a large number
> of 10 features that you want, and it's easier to reinstall than upgrade
> them individually -- which may be the case, I'm just curious.
>
> --
> \\\\\ ----> [email]hedgehog@hedgie.com[/email] <----
> \\\\\\\__o Bringing hedgehogs to the common folk since 1994.
> __\\\\\\\'/________________________________________________________
>
> Visit [url]http://www.hedgie.com[/url] for information on my latest book,
> "Waiting for War," published by Aventine Press!
>
> [1] Trust me on this one.[/color]
Well Mandrake 10 has Kernel 2.6 with additional features. Reports
suggests there are speed enhancements with 2.6 for a lot of
applications--depends on what you use, though. As they say
Mandrakelinux 10.0 features the following software:
Kernel 2.6.3
XFree86 4.3
Glibc 2.3.3 with Native POSIX Threads Library (NPTL) support
GCC 3.3.2
Apache 2.0.48, Samba 3.0.2, MySQL 4.0.18
ProFTPD 1.2.9, Postfix 2.0.18, OpenSSH 3.6.1p2
KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, IceWM 1.2.13
OpenOffice.org 1.1, KOffice 1.3, Gnumeric 1.2.6
Mozilla 1.6, The GIMP 1.2.5, XMMS 1.2.9
A good place to get the mandrake 10 CDs would be
[url]http://www.OSdepot.com[/url] --they're selling them for $6.95 I think.
"Paul" <hardrockingdad@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ASoc.28772$Wg5.3411@pathologist.blueyonder.net>...[color=blue]
> I just wanted to try mandrake 10 out,but from what I've read it seems not to
> be a good idea just yet anyway.I don't really need to have bleeding edge
> particularly,I will stick with 9.2.
>
> I've installed Linux in the past,but not sat down and got my hands dirty
> with it until now so will stick with 9.2 for now :-)
>
> "Jimmy Brokaw" <hedgie@hedgie.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.05.13.22.03.06.35016@hedgie.com...[color=green]
> > Mattias Honrendgard sat down at the computer and pounded the following
> > into the keyboard:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > So at the end of the day, I'd say give it a go. The worst that can[/color][/color]
> happen[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > is that you'll learn a bunch of stuff![/color]
> >
> > I'd agree, it can be done without too much hassle. Standard disclaimer to
> > backup /home and any other important data structures prior to upgrading.
> > Even if the installer isn't going to much with the /home directory at all,
> > if things go wrong you may get drunk out of frustration, then repartition
> > the drive without thinking about your data.[1]
> >
> > But before I advised upgrading from 9.2 to 10, I'd have to ask "why?" If
> > there's something very specific in 10 that you want, you can just install
> > that package and save some trouble. If you're happy with 9.2, well, this
> > isn't Windows -- you don't need to upgrade every time a new version comes
> > out. If you wanted bleeding edge, you probably shouldn't be on Mandrake
> > anyway. If you want to run 2.6.x kernel, they work fine under 9.2
> > (I've got a laptop with that configuration). The only reason I can
> > imagine for upgrading from 9.2 to 10 would be if there were a large number
> > of 10 features that you want, and it's easier to reinstall than upgrade
> > them individually -- which may be the case, I'm just curious.
> >
> > --
> > \\\\\ ----> [email]hedgehog@hedgie.com[/email] <----
> > \\\\\\\__o Bringing hedgehogs to the common folk since 1994.
> > __\\\\\\\'/________________________________________________________
> >
> > Visit [url]http://www.hedgie.com[/url] for information on my latest book,
> > "Waiting for War," published by Aventine Press!
> >
> > [1] Trust me on this one.[/color][/color]