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This is a discussion on fedora bug fixes here - Help ; here are some links to help people with fedora core 1: http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/ http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7257 if anyone has any other links feel free to reply.......

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  1. fedora bug fixes here

    here are some links to help people with fedora core 1:

    http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/
    http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO
    http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7257

    if anyone has any other links feel free to reply....

  2. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:14:51 GMT, gary wrote:

    > here are some links to help people with fedora core 1:


    ..... this fedora fiasco reminds me of when Linux first
    started out
    ..
    --
    /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
    \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
    As Zeus said to Narcissus, "Watch yourself."

  3. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    gary wrote in message news:<%b7tb.815$Re.795092@newshog.newsread.com>...
    > here are some links to help people with fedora core 1:
    >
    > http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/
    > http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO
    > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7257
    >
    > if anyone has any other links feel free to reply....


    Gee...all that MP3 playback and AGP graphics crap was really useful,
    but how do I get the thing to BOOT!?!? Fedora uses Grub as its
    exclusive boot loader. Grub doesn't work on my box. Is there any
    easy way to overwrite it with LILO?

  4. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0800, Nick Ballard wrote:

    > Gee...all that MP3 playback and AGP graphics crap was really useful, but
    > how do I get the thing to BOOT!?!? Fedora uses Grub as its exclusive boot
    > loader. Grub doesn't work on my box. Is there any easy way to overwrite
    > it with LILO?


    Well, the 3rd CD contains the LILO package. I imagine you can install it
    and then when you run it, it'll overwrite the MBR.

  5. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:46:44 -0800, Nick Ballard wrote:

    > gary wrote in message news:<%b7tb.815$Re.795092@newshog.newsread.com>...
    >> here are some links to help people with fedora core 1:
    >>
    >> http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/
    >> http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO
    >> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7257
    >>
    >> if anyone has any other links feel free to reply....

    >
    > Gee...all that MP3 playback and AGP graphics crap was really useful,
    > but how do I get the thing to BOOT!?!? Fedora uses Grub as its
    > exclusive boot loader. Grub doesn't work on my box. Is there any
    > easy way to overwrite it with LILO?


    Did you try installing lilo???


    --
    GNU/Linux is God
    get used to it
    declinton@sympatico.ca
    Linux User # 276385


  6. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    "Douglas Clinton" wrote in message news:...
    >
    > Did you try installing lilo???


    Several times, actually. There was no option to install Lilo as the
    boot loader during installation, and the "linux rescue" boot option
    doesn't seem to work (nor do I believe it would have helped if it did
    work).

    Instead, I tried to patch Lilo into the system from a live CD. It
    didn't work, but I did get some interesting output.

    LNX-BBC
    # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    /part5# lilo
    Missing lilo.conf
    /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf
    Fatal: create /boot/map: Read-only file system
    /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map
    Ignoring "map"
    Fatal: open /boot/message: Not found

  7. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    In comp.os.linux.help Nick Ballard wrote:
    > Instead, I tried to patch Lilo into the system from a live CD. It
    > didn't work, but I did get some interesting output.


    IT worked fine, you worked wrong:

    > LNX-BBC
    > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > /part5# lilo


    Wrong. The command is

    lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5

    > Missing lilo.conf


    Right.

    > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf


    Wrong.


    > Fatal: create /boot/map: Read-only file system


    Right.

    > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map


    Getting better. You got something against "-r"?

    > Ignoring "map"
    > Fatal: open /boot/message: Not found


    Right.

    The computer is right every time. You are wrong every time. Computer
    50, human 0. Are you a slow learner?

    And you could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.

    Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!

    Peter

  8. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    Sorry. I've never worked with lilo before, and the help file wasn't
    at all helpful.

    ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    >
    > > LNX-BBC
    > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > > /part5# lilo

    >
    > Wrong. The command is
    >
    > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >

    What does -r do? Is this the only line I need to use?

    > > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map

    >
    > Getting better. You got something against "-r"?
    >

    Will -r find the config file, or will I also need -C and -b?

    >
    > The computer is right every time...blah blah blah...
    > Are you a slow learner?
    >
    > You could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    > simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.
    >
    > Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!


    It is this kind of arrogance that discourages people from using Linux
    at all. Keep it up...MSFT is looking for people like you.

  9. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    >
    > IT worked fine, you worked wrong:
    >
    > > LNX-BBC
    > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > > /part5# lilo

    >
    > Wrong. The command is
    >
    > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >

    I got it working now. Sorry about that last post.

    Your personal insults to me were not necessary, but your assistance was.
    Thank you.

  10. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    In comp.os.linux.help Nick Ballard wrote:
    > Sorry. I've never worked with lilo before, and the help file wasn't
    > at all helpful.


    > ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    > >
    > > > LNX-BBC
    > > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > /part5# lilo

    > >
    > > Wrong. The command is
    > >
    > > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > >

    > What does -r do? Is this the only line I need to use?



    Look it up. You have the man page. I am not your personal reading
    service.


    > > > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map

    > >
    > > Getting better. You got something against "-r"?
    > >

    > Will -r find the config file, or will I also need -C and -b?



    Look it up. You have the man page.


    > > The computer is right every time...blah blah blah...
    > > Are you a slow learner?
    > >
    > > You could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    > > simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.
    > >
    > > Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!


    > It is this kind of arrogance that discourages people from using Linux
    > at all. Keep it up...MSFT is looking for people like you.



    You are an arrogant stuck-up snob. Pull your thumb out of your mouth
    and use it on the keyboard.


    Peter

  11. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    In comp.os.linux.help Nick Ballard wrote:
    > ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    > >
    > > IT worked fine, you worked wrong:
    > >
    > > > LNX-BBC
    > > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > /part5# lilo

    > >
    > > Wrong. The command is
    > >
    > > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > >

    > I got it working now. Sorry about that last post.



    YOU got it working? I see. So Mr. Arrogant, what did YOU do that
    miraculously got it working? We'd all like the benefit of your
    brilliance, please.

    > Your personal insults to me were not necessary, but your assistance was.


    They were extremely necessary. Even YOU think you should apologise for
    your posts. But you don't really do you .. naw, you think people are
    here to do your work for you.

    > Thank you.


    For what? For pointing you at the man page?

    Peter

  12. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<9bhfpb.bc3.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...

    > you think people are
    > here to do your work for you.


    Look again at the shell output. I did the work that I thought was
    required, based on the information that I was able to obtain. The man
    pages had been excluded from the CD to meet size constraints, the help
    file did not once mention the -s option, and the online HOWTOs were
    not as detailed as they could have been.

  13. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    In comp.os.linux.help Nick Ballard wrote:
    > ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message news:<9bhfpb.bc3.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...


    > > you think people are
    > > here to do your work for you.


    > Look again at the shell output.


    I'm afraid I've forgotten whatever you are talking about. You need to
    give me more contextual clues.

    > I did the work that I thought was
    > required, based on the information that I was able to obtain. The man
    > pages had been excluded from the CD to meet size constraints, the help


    Uh? What CD is that? Surely it has http docs? Anyway:

    % /sbin/lilo -h
    usage: lilo.real [ -C config_file ] -q [ -m map_file ] [ -v N | -v ... ]
    lilo.real [ -C config_file ] [ -b boot_device ] [ -c ] [ -g | -l | -L ]
    [ -i boot_loader ] [ -m map_file ] [ -d delay ]
    [ -v N | -v ... ] [ -t ] [ -s save_file | -S save_file ]
    [ -p ][ -P fix | -P ignore ] [ -r root_dir ] [ -w ]
    lilo.real [ -C config_file ] [ -m map_file ] -R [ word ... ]
    lilo.real [ -C config_file ] -I name [ options ]
    lilo.real [ -C config_file ] [ -s save_file ] -u | -U [ boot_device ]
    lilo.real -A /dev/XXX [ N ] activate a partition
    lilo.real -M /dev/XXX [ mbr_file ] install master boot record
    lilo.real -T help list additional options
    lilo.real -V [ -v ] version information

    and the manpages are on the web. As are the docs.

    > file did not once mention the -s option, and the online HOWTOs were


    "-r", not "-s". Anyway, this is well-known. Nobody has used any other
    method (except chroot) for donkey's years.

    > not as detailed as they could have been.


    Peter

  14. Re: fedora bug fixes here


    "Nick Ballard" wrote in message
    news:109bb5af.0311182026.18e39c4e@posting.google.c om...
    > Sorry. I've never worked with lilo before, and the help file wasn't
    > at all helpful.
    >
    > ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message

    news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    > >
    > > > LNX-BBC
    > > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    > > > /part5# lilo

    > >
    > > Wrong. The command is
    > >
    > > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    > >

    > What does -r do? Is this the only line I need to use?


    Ignore Peter. His advice is often blatantly wrong, and even if vaguely
    correct is so loaded with important parts left out that it's useless.

    > > > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map

    > >
    > > Getting better. You got something against "-r"?
    > >

    > Will -r find the config file, or will I also need -C and -b?


    Sort of: Read the manual page: "-r" does a "chroot" before anything else,
    and in this case is syntactically very similar to:

    chroot /mnt/rw/disks/disc0/part5 "lilo"

    Since you'll have chrooted to the /mnt/... directory, the lilo command will
    by default select the /etc/lilo.conf and /boot/map that it finds "rooted" in
    that directory. Read up on "chroot" to understand how this works.

    chroot is really, really useful in certain security configurations and
    testing setups where you are working with the image of an operating system,
    mounted on another operating system. It's exactly the tool you need here:
    "lilo -r" is juat another way to call that functionality.

    > > The computer is right every time...blah blah blah...
    > > Are you a slow learner?
    > >
    > > You could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    > > simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.
    > >
    > > Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!

    >
    > It is this kind of arrogance that discourages people from using Linux
    > at all. Keep it up...MSFT is looking for people like you.


    Unfortunately, you're correct. Peter is part of the arrogant "You're too
    stupid to do it right, just watch me wave my appendage and say 'oooh' and
    'ahhhh'".

    I swear, his workspace just be populated by clueless paperwork handlers who
    don't know any better and worship at his keyboard because no one competent
    is available....



  15. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    In comp.os.linux.help Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
    > "Nick Ballard" wrote in message
    > news:109bb5af.0311182026.18e39c4e@posting.google.c om...
    >> Sorry. I've never worked with lilo before, and the help file wasn't
    >> at all helpful.
    >>
    >> ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message

    > news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    >> >
    >> > > LNX-BBC
    >> > > # mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >> > > # cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    >> > > /part5# lilo
    >> >
    >> > Wrong. The command is
    >> >
    >> > lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >> >

    >> What does -r do? Is this the only line I need to use?


    > Ignore Peter. His advice is often blatantly wrong, and even if vaguely
    > correct is so loaded with important parts left out that it's useless.


    Crawl back under the stone on the alien world you oozed out of. You
    offer no advice here that I did not already supply, and you have the
    *cheek* to load your void homily with the above gratuitous insults.


    >> > > /part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map
    >> >
    >> > Getting better. You got something against "-r"?
    >> >

    >> Will -r find the config file, or will I also need -C and -b?


    > Sort of: Read the manual page: "-r" does a "chroot" before anything else,


    Not "sort of". It will do everything. There is nothing else to be done.

    > and in this case is syntactically very similar to:


    > chroot /mnt/rw/disks/disc0/part5 "lilo"


    What's the point of saying that when I already told him so!

    >> > You could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    >> > simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.


    >> > Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!

    >>
    >> It is this kind of arrogance that discourages people from using Linux
    >> at all. Keep it up...MSFT is looking for people like you.


    > Unfortunately, you're correct. Peter is part of the arrogant "You're too


    You discourage me from visiting the alien slimehole you bugged out of.
    Go back to it. Stay in it. Do not move. If your mandibles feel the urge
    to wiggle, bind them shut with fecal material.

    You may take that as an insult.

    Peter

  16. Re: fedora bug fixes here

    Potty mouth.

    P.T. Breuer wrote:
    > In comp.os.linux.help Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
    >
    >>"Nick Ballard" wrote in message
    >>news:109bb5af.0311182026.18e39c4e@posting.google.c om...
    >>
    >>>Sorry. I've never worked with lilo before, and the help file wasn't
    >>>at all helpful.
    >>>
    >>>ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) wrote in message

    >>
    >>news:<2tpcpb.ii4.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>...
    >>
    >>>>>LNX-BBC
    >>>>># mount -o remount,rw /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >>>>># cd /mnt/discs/disc0/part5
    >>>>>/part5# lilo
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong. The command is
    >>>>
    >>>> lilo -r /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>What does -r do? Is this the only line I need to use?

    >
    >
    >>Ignore Peter. His advice is often blatantly wrong, and even if vaguely
    >>correct is so loaded with important parts left out that it's useless.

    >
    >
    > Crawl back under the stone on the alien world you oozed out of. You
    > offer no advice here that I did not already supply, and you have the
    > *cheek* to load your void homily with the above gratuitous insults.
    >
    >
    >
    >>>>>/part5# lilo -C etc/lilo.conf -b boot/map
    >>>>
    >>>>Getting better. You got something against "-r"?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Will -r find the config file, or will I also need -C and -b?

    >
    >
    >>Sort of: Read the manual page: "-r" does a "chroot" before anything else,

    >
    >
    > Not "sort of". It will do everything. There is nothing else to be done.
    >
    >
    >>and in this case is syntactically very similar to:

    >
    >
    >> chroot /mnt/rw/disks/disc0/part5 "lilo"

    >
    >
    > What's the point of saying that when I already told him so!
    >
    >
    >>>>You could have saved yourself the trouble of any switches at all
    >>>>simply by a chroot /mnt/rw/discs/disc0/part5.

    >
    >
    >>>>Talk about being an annoying trouble-causing human!
    >>>
    >>>It is this kind of arrogance that discourages people from using Linux
    >>>at all. Keep it up...MSFT is looking for people like you.

    >
    >
    >>Unfortunately, you're correct. Peter is part of the arrogant "You're too

    >
    >
    > You discourage me from visiting the alien slimehole you bugged out of.
    > Go back to it. Stay in it. Do not move. If your mandibles feel the urge
    > to wiggle, bind them shut with fecal material.
    >
    > You may take that as an insult.
    >
    > Peter



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