Paul Shayler staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> I have recently installed Ubuntu 7.04. I have a hard drive that is
> 4.5 G. I want to add a second [disk]. [How do I do that?]

4.5G? 1999 called, they want their disk back. Shut down the computer.
Open computer case. Plug new disk in to power and data cables, then
attach it to the drive rails using screws, making sure it's jumpered
properly if it's IDE. Close computer case. Turn computer on.

IDE disks: Channel 0 master = /dev/hda , channel 0 slave = /dev/hdb ,
channel 1 master = /dev/hdc , channel 1 slave = /dev/hdd . The pattern
continues. SCSI and SCSI-like disks: First disk = /dev/sda , second
disk = /dev/sdb , pattern continues. fdisk the new disk and create
partitions on it. mke2fs (or mkreiserfs, or whatever) the partitions
you created. mount the partitions on appropriate mountpoints, and add
lines in /etc/fstab so that those partitions will be automatically
mounted on boot. Profit! HTH,

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Google translator told me needed "hand grenades". Someone had put in
a colloquial translation of 'pineapple'... --Chris Croughton
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Dances With Crows wrote:
> 4.5G? 1999 called, they want their disk back.

Hilarious.
I bought a PC in 1999 and it had a 6.4Gig disk. I had no idea how
cutting-edge that PC really was. PII 300.

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glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously.
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Dances With Crows wrote:
> Paul Shayler staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>
>>I have recently installed Ubuntu 7.04. I have a hard drive that is
>>4.5 G. I want to add a second [disk]. [How do I do that?]
>
>
> 4.5G? 1999 called, they want their disk back.

Please, don't laugh! I presently run a 4.1G and a 2.1G Fireball combo.
What should the 2.1G be called? 1997? Why throw away such good disks?
Chances are the one you buy today will be gone in 3 years from now.

But, the times they are a'changin'. Most probably, when I upgrade my
OS, I'll switch to 8G + 4G Fireball combo. 12G, man, can you imagine?
Solid disks, those Fireball!

Yugo writes:
>Chances are the one you buy today will be gone in 3 years from now.

Why do you think so?

It's hard to believe how cheap hard drives are nowadays, but my
experience is that they are about as reliable as the older ones; e.g.,
I bought two very cheap (EUR 55) 40GB drives 3.5 years ago, and both
of them are still ok.

Concerning the bad ones, we had some in the old days (Micropolis), and
some more recently (Maxtor).

>But, the times they are a'changin'. Most probably, when I upgrade my
>OS, I'll switch to 8G + 4G Fireball combo. 12G, man, can you imagine?
> Solid disks, those Fireball!

I had a Fireball CR 8.4A (8GB), from 1999 or earlier. After replacing
it with a bigger disk, I gave it to a friend. Recently it went bad.

- anton
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Anton Ertl wrote:
> Yugo writes:
>
>>Chances are the one you buy today will be gone in 3 years from now.
>
>
> Why do you think so?
>
> It's hard to believe how cheap hard drives are nowadays, but my
> experience is that they are about as reliable as the older ones; e.g.,
> I bought two very cheap (EUR 55) 40GB drives 3.5 years ago, and both
> of them are still ok.

If a disk lasts for 6 months, in a personal computer use context, it
will most likely last five years. It's when you get past 8 years that
wear might set in and that you can tell which are the best products.
Of course, people working in server environments can tell faster. But
Quantum, in my opinion, qualified a very good HD company. To me, they
set a standard of quality.

What will happen next is hard to tell. Maxtor bought Quantum and was
never able to bring the quality of its products to the level of the
company it had bought. Seagate has paid 1.9 G for Maxtor. Will the
deal be worth it or will it bring pressure on quality to keep prices
down? It remains to be seen. Not for Quantum.

> Concerning the bad ones, we had some in the old days (Micropolis), and
> some more recently (Maxtor).

And, in between, in the 200 - 700 MB era, WD had problems. I've seen a
few out of not too many fail, but they must have overcome their
problems since they're stil in business. I can't tell nowbody I know
now use WD disks.

>>But, the times they are a'changin'. Most probably, when I upgrade my
>>OS, I'll switch to 8G + 4G Fireball combo. 12G, man, can you imagine?
>> Solid disks, those Fireball!

> I had a Fireball CR 8.4A (8GB), from 1999 or earlier. After replacing
> it with a bigger disk, I gave it to a friend. Recently it went bad.

You should have left a note saying that formatting disks with a hammer
is not advised

Yugo wrote:

> What will happen next is hard to tell. Maxtor bought Quantum and was
> never able to bring the quality of its products to the level of the
> company it had bought. Seagate has paid 1.9 G for Maxtor.

All shares, though, it seems. It's still a lot of money. It would
dilute the value of the shares if the deal is not successful.

To be honest, I've never been a big fan of Seagate drives. Over the years
the only ones I have never tried are Samsung - I've had Maxtor, Seagate,
Hitachi and Western Digital.

In recent years the Seagate and Maxtor drives have fallen over most readily,
while the Hitachi and WD units have stood up to the task. Of course having
now written this...

On a related note, when a drive is failing and goes into "limp home" mode -
i.e. max sustained transfer is 2MB/sec - what's the official name for that
condition? (assuming there is one)

Best,

Rohan Beckles
rohan dot beckles at virgin dot net
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Intel Xeon @ 3.06GHz (dual)
Corsair TwinX-3200PT 2GB
Western Digital 2500SD (dual, RAID1)
eVGA nVidia 6800 Ultra 256MB

Rohan Beckles wrote:

> To be honest

I like people being honest

> I've never been a big fan of Seagate drives. Over the years
> the only ones I have never tried are Samsung - I've had Maxtor, Seagate,
> Hitachi and Western Digital.

I've had a 700 MB WD and I know 2 persons who had problems with WD
disks in that time frame. Then, I bought a 4,1 GB Quantum. Then a 2, a
4.1 and an 8 GB Quantum drives were given to me. Only the 2 and the
4.1 that I now use and that were given to me have been used
consecutively, except maybe for one year.

> In recent years the Seagate and Maxtor drives have fallen over most readily,
> while the Hitachi and WD units have stood up to the task. Of course having
> now written this...

I know nothing of Seagate and nothing of WD today. I suppose they're
the brands I'd consider. I'd sure appreciate other opinions. One of
these days, I believe I'll finally have to buy antoher computer

> On a related note, when a drive is failing and goes into "limp home" mode -
> i.e. max sustained transfer is 2MB/sec - what's the official name for that
> condition? (assuming there is one)

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