Digital camera not connecting properly

Hallo,

I use a digital camera Fuji S602zoom, a card reader without name
and my wife used a digital camera Fuji A204.
When mounted, they come up with messages like:
kernel: usb 1-2.2: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 16
kernel: usb 1-2.2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
kernel: scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access FUJIFILM USB-DRIVEUNIT 1.00 PQ:
0 ANSI: 0 CCS
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 2001888 512-byte hardware sectors (1025 MB)
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 2001888 512-byte hardware sectors (1025 MB)
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
kernel: sdc: sdc1
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0

Then I can just mount the appopriate "SCSI disk" and use the
data from it.

Now my wife bought a Fuji A920 and when I connect that I see
no more than:
kernel: usb 1-2.3.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and addr. 15
kernel: usb 1-2.3.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

In opther words: no disc that I can mount.
Is there something I miss? Is it a nasty new trick from Fuji?
Does somebody have a solutine?

Thanks in advance for any useful information.

Groeten,

Hans.

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Johannes Beekhuizen staggered into the Black Sun and said:[color=blue]
> I use a digital camera Fuji S602zoom, a card reader without name
> : scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access FUJIFILM USB-DRIVEUNIT
> : sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 2001888 512-byte hardware sectors (1025 MB)
> : sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
> Then I can just mount the appopriate "SCSI disk" and use the data from
> it.
>
> Now my wife bought a Fuji A920 and when I connect:
> : usb 1-2.3.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and addr. 15
> : usb 1-2.3.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>
> In other words: no disc that I can mount. Is there something I
> [missed]? Is it a nasty new trick from Fuji?[/color]

Some cameras look like Mass Storage Devices when connected. Some don't.
The ones that don't often use some variant of PTP (Picture Transport
Protocol), since the Mass Storage protocol doesn't have support for
doing things like "change shutter speed" or "take picture". Programs
like digikam and the gphoto2 libraries support PTP.

However, there are many variants of PTP for some reason. ("The
manufacturers and/or firmware programmers are smoking crack" probably
covers *why* this is the case.) A very new camera may not have had its
PTP variant decoded by the gphoto2 people yet. I got a fairly good
multiple-format memory card reader from Fried Hardware for $20 a few
months back, and it's worked without hassle. Prices may vary across the
pond. HTH,

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On 31 Aug 2008 14:27:33 GMT Dances With Crows <danceswithcrows@usa.net> wrote:
| Johannes Beekhuizen staggered into the Black Sun and said:
|> I use a digital camera Fuji S602zoom, a card reader without name
|> : scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access FUJIFILM USB-DRIVEUNIT
|> : sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 2001888 512-byte hardware sectors (1025 MB)
|> : sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
|> Then I can just mount the appopriate "SCSI disk" and use the data from
|> it.
|>
|> Now my wife bought a Fuji A920 and when I connect:
|> : usb 1-2.3.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and addr. 15
|> : usb 1-2.3.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
|>
|> In other words: no disc that I can mount. Is there something I
|> [missed]? Is it a nasty new trick from Fuji?
|
| Some cameras look like Mass Storage Devices when connected. Some don't.
| The ones that don't often use some variant of PTP (Picture Transport
| Protocol), since the Mass Storage protocol doesn't have support for
| doing things like "change shutter speed" or "take picture". Programs
| like digikam and the gphoto2 libraries support PTP.
|
| However, there are many variants of PTP for some reason. ("The
| manufacturers and/or firmware programmers are smoking crack" probably
| covers *why* this is the case.) A very new camera may not have had its
| PTP variant decoded by the gphoto2 people yet. I got a fairly good
| multiple-format memory card reader from Fried Hardware for $20 a few
| months back, and it's worked without hassle. Prices may vary across the
| pond. HTH,

Actually, it may be more a case of not being able to read English very well.

In a previous job, there was collaboration on a development project with
a partner that had some employees involved spread through 3 Asian countries.
There was a wide range of English language skills. Some were so good I
couldn't even detect an accent, and without their names, I might have even
guessed they were expat Americans (and maybe they were, anyway). Others,
however, had to have translation on the conference calls (all done in
English), and often had poor skills reading/writing English email. My
Taiwanese was ... non-existant. I would not have been able to work with
any standards documents in Taiwanese, if there had been any. Many of
their team would have had great difficulty with standards documents in
English.

OTOH, I would not rule out management interference (making deals with the
Redmond Riff-Raff to sabotage compatibility), incompetency (especially in
subcontractors), understaffing, cultural differences, and that possible
drug use.

You should get a camera with a removeable memory card, such as SDHC, and a
memory card interface for your computer. These interfaces are available in
3.5 floppy bay and USB hub box form factors, generally all supporting USB.
Be sure you get one that supports SDHC if there might be any use for SD cards.
SDHC allows SD cards, or equivalents, to go past the 2GB barrier (because the
original SD interface developers were smoking crack).

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Hallo,

Op zondag 31 augustus 2008 schreef Dances With Crows aan All:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Now my wife bought a Fuji A920 and when I connect:
>> : usb 1-2.3.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
>> addr. 15
>> : usb 1-2.3.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>> In other words: no disc that I can mount. Is there something
>> I [missed]? Is it a nasty new trick from Fuji?[/color][/color]

DWC> Some cameras look like Mass Storage Devices when connected.
DWC> Some don't.

Aha.

DWC> The ones that don't often use some variant of PTP
DWC> (Picture Transport Protocol), since the Mass Storage protocol
DWC> doesn't have support for doing things like "change shutter
DWC> speed" or "take picture". Programs like digikam and the gphoto2
DWC> libraries support PTP.

I installed gphoto2 this morning and during autodetect it
recognises a PTP camera on usb:<nothing>. My camera is seen
as PTP on usb:001,021. But I know that my camera is [also?]
a Mass Storage Device.

DWC> However, there are many variants of PTP for some reason. ("The
DWC> manufacturers and/or firmware programmers are smoking crack"
DWC> probably covers *why* this is the case.)

:)

DWC> A very new camera may not have had its PTP variant decoded by
DWC> the gphoto2 people yet.

I noticed that neither camera is listed by gphoto2. Butr his
week I'm not going to do much mre thinking about it: this
morning some people came to renovate the kitchen. At the moment
they're breaking away all the old tiles. That does not make for
a quiet thinking environment...

DWC> I got a fairly good multiple-format memory card reader from
DWC> Fried Hardware for $20 a few months back, and it's worked
DWC> without hassle. Prices may vary across the pond.

I don't remember what I paid for my card reader. It was little
enough to risk buying it. I needed something to get all the
pictures from my wifes old camera after she dropped it. It
works...

Groeten,

Hans.

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Hallo,

Op zondag 31 augustus 2008 schreef [email]phil-news-nospam@ipal.net[/email] aan All:

pnn> OTOH, I would not rule out management interference (making deals
pnn> with the Redmond Riff-Raff to sabotage compatibility),

I though only Bill Gates did that kind of thing :)

pnn> You should get a camera with a removeable memory card,

Of course.that's an option and I use that already. But I
don't really like taking that card out and putting it into
the reader every time. The main reason is that the card is
a little bit small for my clumsy fingers and it's not easy
to see the slots with my bad eyes. That's why I am enquiring
about the possibility to connect it directly.

Groeten,

Hans.

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:35:56 +0200, Johannes Beekhuizen wrote:[color=blue]
>
> DWC> Some cameras look like Mass Storage Devices when connected.
> DWC> Some don't.
>
> Aha.
>
> DWC> The ones that don't often use some variant of PTP
> DWC> (Picture Transport Protocol), since the Mass Storage protocol
> DWC> doesn't have support for doing things like "change shutter
> DWC> speed" or "take picture". Programs like digikam and the gphoto2
> DWC> libraries support PTP.
>
> I installed gphoto2 this morning and during autodetect it
> recognises a PTP camera on usb:<nothing>. My camera is seen
> as PTP on usb:001,021. But I know that my camera is [also?]
> a Mass Storage Device.[/color]

Read the manual to see whether it can be configured as either.

On Sep 1, 7:54*pm, "Johannes Beekhuizen" <jbeek...@duinheks.nl> wrote:[color=blue]
> <slrngblaig.ent.danceswithcr...@crow202.dyndns.org>
> <g9ern70...@news5.newsguy.com>
> <slrngblaig.ent.danceswithcr...@crow202.dyndns.org>
> <g9ern70...@news5.newsguy.com>
> Hallo,
>
> Op zondag 31 augustus 2008 schreef phil-news-nos...@ipal.net aan All:
>
> *pnn> OTOH, I would not rule out management interference (making deals
> *pnn> with the Redmond Riff-Raff to sabotage compatibility),
>
> I though only Bill Gates did that kind of thing :)
>
> *pnn> You should get a camera with a removeable memory card,
>
> Of course.that's an option and I use that already. But I
> don't really like taking that card out and putting it into
> the reader every time. The main reason is that the card is
> a little bit small for my clumsy fingers and it's not easy
> to see the slots with my bad eyes. That's why I am enquiring
> about the possibility to connect it directly.
>
> Groeten,
>
> * * * * * *Hans.
>
> jdh punt beekhuizen bij duinheks punt nl[/color]

Could be a MTP device ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[/url]
Media_Transfer_Protocol). Last I checked linux had a development
driver for this!!!

Johannes Beekhuizen <jbeekhui@duinheks.nl> wrote:[color=blue]
> I use a digital camera Fuji S602zoom, a card reader without name
> and my wife used a digital camera Fuji A204.[/color]

I bought a Syba SD-Combo unit for US$17 which installs like a floppy
drive in my computer. I can plug in a camera card or a USB stick and
they just show up on my desktop. Would that help you?

G'luck...

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