Re: AMD fires CEO. Heads are rolling as AMD/ATI under perform - Hardware

This is a discussion on Re: AMD fires CEO. Heads are rolling as AMD/ATI under perform - Hardware ; On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:13:30 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:21:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/...7lMt8L0MUjtBAF > > > It seems like associating ones business with Linux is the kiss of death > ...

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  1. Re: AMD fires CEO. Heads are rolling as AMD/ATI under perform

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:13:30 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

    > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:21:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/...7lMt8L0MUjtBAF

    >
    >
    > It seems like associating ones business with Linux is the kiss of death
    > these days.
    >
    > I wouldn't touch an AMD processor with a barge pole.
    > As for ATI I made that mistake once, never again...
    > Total crap.


    A good Linux machine should have a decent nvidia inside, agreed. It's
    shocking to see that the debian goatse crowd is ditching decent nvidia
    support by having the nvidia driver install procedure go awry on
    its distros. That sucks. Anyways, don't tell me hat AMD processors are bad
    gear. I recently installed a boxed AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 6000+ on a
    Asrock board using its standard CPU cooler. Wow this gear rocks my friend :

    Date: 21 Jul 2008 21:00:01 -0000
    From: root@hubble.stokkie.net
    To: stock@jackson.stokkie.net
    Subject: crk-linux : 3014.726 MHz, +42.5 C

    ************************************************** **********************
    *** Mon Jul 21 23:00:00 CEST 2008 : crk-linux output sensors
    ************************************************** **********************

    w83627hf-isa-0290
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    VCore 1: +1.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
    VCore 2: +1.39 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
    +3.3V: +3.31 V (min = +3.14 V, max = +3.47 V)
    +5V: +5.08 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V)
    +12V: +11.19 V (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
    -12V: +0.30 V (min = -13.18 V, max = -10.80 V) ALARM
    -5V: +1.58 V (min = -5.25 V, max = -4.75 V) ALARM
    V5SB: +5.54 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V) ALARM
    VBat: +2.24 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +3.60 V) ALARM
    fan1: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
    fan2: 3125 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
    fan3: 0 RPM (min = 1418 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
    temp1: +37 C (high = -37 C, hyst = -11 C) sensor = thermistor
    ALARM
    temp2: +42.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
    temp3: +38.0 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
    ERROR: Can't get VID data!
    alarms:
    beep_enable:
    Sound alarm enabled

    processor : 0
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 67
    model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
    stepping : 3
    cpu MHz : 3014.726
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 0
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
    pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
    3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 6035.64
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    processor : 1
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 67
    model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
    stepping : 3
    cpu MHz : 3014.726
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
    pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
    3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 6029.77
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    This was four days ago. Today it was a hot summer day with temperatures
    about 100 oF. The power management is setup to not snibble Giga Hertz
    speed away, but just improve its cooler performance :

    Date: 25 Jul 2008 15:00:01 -0000
    From: root@hubble.stokkie.net
    To: stock@jackson.stokkie.net
    Subject: crk-linux : 3014.726 MHz, +46.5 C

    ************************************************** **********************
    *** Fri Jul 25 17:00:00 CEST 2008 : crk-linux output sensors
    ************************************************** **********************

    w83627hf-isa-0290
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    VCore 1: +1.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
    VCore 2: +1.41 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
    +3.3V: +3.30 V (min = +3.14 V, max = +3.47 V)
    +5V: +5.08 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V)
    +12V: +11.19 V (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
    -12V: +0.22 V (min = -13.18 V, max = -10.80 V) ALARM
    -5V: +1.58 V (min = -5.25 V, max = -4.75 V) ALARM
    V5SB: +5.54 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V) ALARM
    VBat: +2.24 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +3.60 V) ALARM
    fan1: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
    fan2: 5113 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
    fan3: 0 RPM (min = 1418 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
    temp1: +43 C (high = -37 C, hyst = -11 C) sensor = thermistor
    ALARM
    temp2: +46.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
    temp3: +40.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
    ERROR: Can't get VID data!
    alarms:
    beep_enable:
    Sound alarm enabled

    processor : 0
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 67
    model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
    stepping : 3
    cpu MHz : 3014.726
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 0
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
    pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
    3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 6035.64
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    processor : 1
    vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
    cpu family : 15
    model : 67
    model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
    stepping : 3
    cpu MHz : 3014.726
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 2
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 1
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
    pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
    3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
    bogomips : 6029.77
    TLB size : 1024 4K pages
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

    used distro is Mandrake 10.1 (has got a decent KDE desktop without
    undeeded bloat) upon which i installed kernel :

    Linux crk-linux.stokkie.net 2.6.15 #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 21 22:30:34 CEST 2008
    x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ unknown GNU/Linux

    I activated ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support --->
    and CPU Frequency scaling ---> with <*> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow!
    All of : Device Drivers ---> I2C support ---> and next switched on
    Device Drivers ---> Hardware Monitoring support ---> Select All as
    modules. As you see the "AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow!" should be inside
    the vmlinuz kernel itself. Next i ran urpmi lm_sensors of which you
    see the output above.

    I could have selected "Maximum used CPU power" as limiting constraint, but
    instead I fixed the CPU frequency at 3.0 GHz, where upon when the heat is
    on, the CPU cooler raises it RPM from 3000 rpm to 5113 RPM as it should be.

    This baby (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+) rockz My Friend!
    Apparently there's even a 3.2 GHz edition for sale, but that one was
    unavailable at the time. Looking at its price ( EUR 90,=) and the fact
    that even Intel's fastest Quad Core is "only" running at 3.2 GHz, AMD has
    a winner here. The difference? Hey, did you ever see a 3.0 GHz CPU running
    at +46.5oC when at full load on a hot summer day?

    Robert
    --
    Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
    Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
    crashrecovery.org stock@stokkie.net


  2. Re: AMD fires CEO. Heads are rolling as AMD/ATI under perform

    "Robert M. Stockmann" writes:

    >A good Linux machine should have a decent nvidia inside, agreed.
    >... I recently installed a boxed AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 6000+


    My brisbane core 65w 65nm AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor
    5200+ works very nicely & is super quiet in an Asus Pundit box. I
    don't game so don't need hot & lots of fans = loud. Core 2 Duo more
    than doubles the price...oh well.




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