HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90 - Handheld

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  1. HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90



    Hi Any Advice?

    I am looking for a top-of-the-range PDA phone for business use.

    I need:
    1. Something easier to bang text in at speed (i.e. QUERTY keyboard I
    guess), for emails.

    2. Good Calendar function
    (to synch with Outlook2003/ WinXP)
    e.g. Can it show titles of everything I need to do this week in text
    on 1 screen?
    e.g. Can it transfer category/colour of entries?
    e.g. Must synch properly so that I can delete/edit emails on either
    my phone OR my PC


    3. Web Browser
    e.g. Can it *zoom* so able to see whole web pages even though
    looking through low res (e.g.320x240) screen.
    e.g. able to see dynamic web pages (.aspx etc, not just .html)


    4. Also must have the basics:
    Must have Blue tooth (for headset/car use),
    fit inside fairly small trouser pockets, reasonable battery life.


    5. I like: scrollwheels, and touchsensitive screens, and some sort of
    scratch protection for the screen (although they seem to have gone
    slightly out of fashion). 3G sounds fun but not critical. GPS
    unlikely
    to work well enough to be useful. Camera likewise not much use unless
    v good...


    - any thoughts?



    Phones I am considering
    =======================

    HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    Yes the HTC Tytn II looks interesting but:

    1. It's a bit heavy (at 190g - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 134g)
    2. It's a bit fat (at 1.9cm - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 1.4cm)
    3. It doesnt have separate number keys.

    Does anyone know if you can zoom using the browser
    (on either of these phones? - iit's just that I imagine viewing
    a web page on screens that are quite so low resolution [i.e. 320 x
    240]
    would be a real pain!

    To be hones if I'm going for something that fat and that heavy
    I would be tempted to go for the new Nokia E90 Communicator
    (210g and 2.0cm thick), which has a clam-shell design and a much
    wider internal screen (800x352). I gather it's keyboard may be no
    easier to use though despite being much wider in design because
    they are rather stiff.

    Of course what I dont know is how well the various software
    all works in practice! I am committed to using Outlook2003 on my PC
    and it would
    be nice to be able to synch properly with that (e.g. category/colour
    of dairy items being transferred?).

    Any thoughts?


    Ship
    Shiperton Henethe

    P.S.
    I have been using a Sony Ericsson P910i for a couple of years, but
    its synching software was *diabolically* unreliable so I dont want
    to go do SE ever again.


    PPS.
    Built in camera & GPS would only be of marginal use to me. But I am
    UK based, and what I cant quite work out is what networks I will be
    able
    to get where I live... Any one know how I can check 3G, GPS, HSDPA[?]
    availability)


  2. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
    Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.

    Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).

    Mack



  3. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    In article <8BfFi.56$hi5.15999@okeanos.csu.net>, mmacdonald@bc.cc.ca.us
    says...
    > I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
    > Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.
    >
    > Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).
    >
    > Mack
    >
    >
    >

    Just to chip in that Windows Mobile or Symbian don't make any
    difference. Both sync perfectly well with MS Outlook. That aside, I
    suggest you should hold and try the phones if possible. This one is
    close to call and personal preference will be a big factor.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


  4. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    xxy wrote:
    > In article <8BfFi.56$hi5.15999@okeanos.csu.net>, mmacdonald@bc.cc.ca.us
    > says...
    >> I believe the HTC is Windows Mobile 6 and should work with Outlook. The
    >> Nokia I believe is Symbian OS so it might not. Just my guess.
    >>
    >> Blacberry's keys have always bothered me (too darn small).
    >>
    >> Mack
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Just to chip in that Windows Mobile or Symbian don't make any
    > difference. Both sync perfectly well with MS Outlook. That aside, I
    > suggest you should hold and try the phones if possible. This one is
    > close to call and personal preference will be a big factor.


    I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
    with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.

  5. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90


    > I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
    > with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.


    Sorry I'm not entirely sure I understand all that.

    ActiveSynch is runs on the Microsoft Mobile (i.e. in this case the HTC
    Tytn 2), yes? So unlikely as it sounds you are actually saying the
    Nokia's software works better than the Microsoft equivalent? Can you
    be more specific - Does it allow Calendar entries whos colours (i.e.
    "Label") I have changed, to have that colour transfer to and from the
    mobile?

    Likewse regarding Blackberry, are you saying that the Blackberry
    software better in some way than the Nokia software that comes with
    the E90?


    Ship
    Shiperton Henethe



  6. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    Hi

    I am now just about to buy a BB 8310, but I have some questions:

    1. 8320's UK launch date
    When does the 8320 get launched in the UK?
    Anyone know?
    (And will it work with Vodaphone?)

    2. Wi-Fi
    I understand the 8320 comes with Wi-Fi.
    Confused what does this do exactly?
    Can you make VoIP calls?
    Would we use Skype for this?
    If not is Wi-Fi just for emails and web surfing?
    If it can use VoIP, arent the networks (e.g. Vodaphone
    worried? I.e. why would they sell me a machine
    that doesnt need to use their network!!)


    3. GPS
    I am told the 8310 has GPS.
    How well does this work?
    (I am unlikely to use it much because I already have
    a dedicated GPS in my car.)
    Does it get maps as it needs time (a bit like the
    way Google earth works?
    Can it do point-to-point journey times? (e.g. by car)

    4. Change Fonts?
    Can I change the rather ugly fonts that
    BBs seem to come with (e.g. the "W" characters
    are flat at the bottom rather than having two points)

    5. Two thumbs?
    Is text entry normally best done with two thumbs?
    (even if you can touch type)

    6. 8800 vs 8300 series
    Being as I'm not going to use the camera OR the GPS
    much, would I be better off using.
    I am told the 8300 serious doesnt have very robust
    keyboard/build quality...

    7. 3G?
    I am based in South Warwickshire, UK most of the time.
    I can scarcely get 02 AT ALL in my house. 3G would be
    useful for surfing, but I imagine it wont work in our
    area! Hard to know in advance because network coverage
    maps seem very inaccurate.

    8. Calendar
    When you sych your msOutlook calendar, do the colours
    (i.e. labels) of entries get transfered (and synched
    if changed later?

    With thanks


    Ship
    Shiperton Henethe


    On Sep 10, 5:58 pm, ship wrote:
    > HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90
    >
    > Hi Any Advice?
    >
    > I am looking for a top-of-the-range PDA phone for business use.
    >
    > I need:
    > 1. Something easier to bang text in at speed (i.e. QUERTY keyboard I
    > guess), for emails.
    >
    > 2. Good Calendar function
    > (to synch with Outlook2003/ WinXP)
    > e.g. Can it show titles of everything I need to do this week in text
    > on 1 screen?
    > e.g. Can it transfer category/colour of entries?
    > e.g. Must synch properly so that I can delete/edit emails on either
    > my phone OR my PC
    >
    > 3. Web Browser
    > e.g. Can it *zoom* so able to see whole web pages even though
    > looking through low res (e.g.320x240) screen.
    > e.g. able to see dynamic web pages (.aspx etc, not just .html)
    >
    > 4. Also must have the basics:
    > Must have Blue tooth (for headset/car use),
    > fit inside fairly small trouser pockets, reasonable battery life.
    >
    > 5. I like: scrollwheels, and touchsensitive screens, and some sort of
    > scratch protection for the screen (although they seem to have gone
    > slightly out of fashion). 3G sounds fun but not critical. GPS
    > unlikely
    > to work well enough to be useful. Camera likewise not much use unless
    > v good...
    >
    > - any thoughts?
    >
    > Phones I am considering
    > =======================
    >
    > HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90
    >
    > Yes the HTC Tytn II looks interesting but:
    >
    > 1. It's a bit heavy (at 190g - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 134g)
    > 2. It's a bit fat (at 1.9cm - whereas the Blackberry 8820 is 1.4cm)
    > 3. It doesnt have separate number keys.
    >
    > Does anyone know if you can zoom using the browser
    > (on either of these phones? - iit's just that I imagine viewing
    > a web page on screens that are quite so low resolution [i.e. 320 x
    > 240]
    > would be a real pain!
    >
    > To be hones if I'm going for something that fat and that heavy
    > I would be tempted to go for the new Nokia E90 Communicator
    > (210g and 2.0cm thick), which has a clam-shell design and a much
    > wider internal screen (800x352). I gather it's keyboard may be no
    > easier to use though despite being much wider in design because
    > they are rather stiff.
    >
    > Of course what I dont know is how well the various software
    > all works in practice! I am committed to using Outlook2003 on my PC
    > and it would
    > be nice to be able to synch properly with that (e.g. category/colour
    > of dairy items being transferred?).
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > ShipShipertonHenethe
    >
    > P.S.
    > I have been using a Sony Ericsson P910i for a couple of years, but
    > its synching software was *diabolically* unreliable so I dont want
    > to go do SE ever again.
    >
    > PPS.
    > Built in camera & GPS would only be of marginal use to me. But I am
    > UK based, and what I cant quite work out is what networks I will be
    > able
    > to get where I live... Any one know how I can check 3G, GPS, HSDPA[?]
    > availability)




  7. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    ship wrote:
    >> I get a better choice and more effective sync with Nokia PC Suite than
    >> with Activesync. And you can put the Blackberry client on the Nokia.

    >
    > Sorry I'm not entirely sure I understand all that.
    >
    > ActiveSynch is runs on the Microsoft Mobile (i.e. in this case the HTC
    > Tytn 2), yes? So unlikely as it sounds you are actually saying the
    > Nokia's software works better than the Microsoft equivalent? Can you
    > be more specific - Does it allow Calendar entries whos colours (i.e.
    > "Label") I have changed, to have that colour transfer to and from the
    > mobile?


    The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
    that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
    choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
    the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
    private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
    that.

    > Likewse regarding Blackberry, are you saying that the Blackberry
    > software better in some way than the Nokia software that comes with
    > the E90?


    If you already have a Blackberry infrastructure (BES etc) then, these
    days you don't actually need to buy Blackberry handsets. Nokia, for one,
    has a software Blackberry client for their smartphones.

  8. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    r.moss-eccardt@computer.org declared for all the world to hear...
    > The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
    > that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
    > choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
    > the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
    > private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
    > that.


    You can do most of that by using categories in outlook.
    --
    Regards
    Jon

  9. Re: HTC Tytn II vs. Backberry 8820 vs. Nokia E90

    Jon wrote:
    > r.moss-eccardt@computer.org declared for all the world to hear...
    >> The Microsoft software is better integrated with Exchange/Outlook in
    >> that it just goes ahead and does it. PC Suite from Nokia enables me to
    >> choose which folders to synchronise, it lets me choose the direction of
    >> the synch, it enables me to not synch 'private' stuff, to mark stuff as
    >> private on the fly and a number of other things. Activesynch doesn't do
    >> that.

    >
    > You can do most of that by using categories in outlook.


    But I can't set categories on the Windows Smartphone and Activesynch
    doesn't have a filter for anything.


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