every basement in america is a repository of plenty of ISa bus parts.

geos can run on new, modern, supposedly energy efficent "blow dryer"
computer hardware..

in fact, if geos use would become more widespead, computers would
rapidly become even more energy efficient, aloowing for het mothballing
of an untold number of Nuke/coalfired/natrual gas fired electric
generating plants




Pat wrote:
>
>
> Old computers are more wasteful of electricity use than new ones. Also, its
> plain impossible to find ISA bus parts any more. Yes, you can definitely
> find anything you want if you like hard enough. I guess that goes for buying
> buggy whips. But its just not convenient to maintain an old piece of iron.
> Hell, these things are not living breathing pets or human beings, they are
> old computers that wear out and eventually become door stops. Lok, I am
> talking about the vast majority. Everytime I make a statement you tend to
> personalize it. In your case, the general rule gets broken.
>
>
>

the people who can/ should spark the economy are the computer
millionaris who sold there stocks at the market peak, leaving the rest
of americans holding hte bag, with no cash remaining in hand to buy new
computers.

Pat wrote:
>
>
> Verdict: Get off your fat posterior and let the butterflies out of that
> billfold of yours and help spark the economy, or is that against your
> religion?
>
>

i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
hardware mp3 cd player..


i just want more geos internet app development..

and a larger number of geos users to argue with...









Pat wrote:
> Hey Raybo,
>
> What do say to these upstarts who want an MP3 player for their GEOS. Isn't
> that against the GEOS mantra of GeoWrite, GeoWrite, GeoWrite!
>
>

i have a friend who is surrounded by credit card debt right now.. what
a hangover for a few years of consuming more than he could pay for..


now he can't even eat at mcdonalds!


geeeezzzz!!!!!





Pat wrote:
> No more, no less. Geeeeez!
>
> Not everything is metered like a gas pump. Your entire life is surrounded by
> objects that have more than you consume or the opposite. This includes
> GEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

So geos is efficient.. i assume you mean more effiicent than windows..,
adn you say that is an advantage..

what you fail to understand is that windows did not become "more
efficient" ..


More powerful computer hardware has simply helped hide severe basic
structural design flaws in the many very inefficient versions of windows
people buy over and over and over..



what other advatnages would you say geos has over windows?



Pat wrote:
>
> I continue to harp on the fact that the average branded
> 286 cost well over $1000 when GEOS was first released. One of its main
> advantages was low memory and disk space usage. Isn't it amazing how things
> change so quickly.
>
>
>
>

In news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net,
hyubso wrote:
| i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
| hardware mp3 cd player..
|
|
| i just want more geos internet app development..
|
| and a larger number of geos users to argue with...

I used KaZaa Lite to d/load some old tunes that I couldn't beleive that
were out there, and I burned them onto a RW and am now listening to them
while I use my VBA macro-laden, multiple-sheet Excel pricing spreadsheet
while I scan cogm for people to argue with .

Now, what was it that you wanted to argue about? ;-)

Tom

From this am I to extrapolate about all people being like that. What a mo.

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B44BE.8020004@prodigy.net...
> i have a friend who is surrounded by credit card debt right now.. what
> a hangover for a few years of consuming more than he could pay for..
>
>
> now he can't even eat at mcdonalds!
>
>
> geeeezzzz!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > No more, no less. Geeeeez!
> >
> > Not everything is metered like a gas pump. Your entire life is
surrounded by
> > objects that have more than you consume or the opposite. This includes
> > GEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
>

I think your friend shoul use some other OS. What should it be? GEOS.
ROTFLAMO!!!!!!!



"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B3C76.5080707@prodigy.net...
> for all that cheap powerful hardware, i was just at my friends this
> weekend to do some "video editing" adn video cd burning of his
> collection of old 8mm "art films"... while there my friend offered an
> ***unsolicited*** critique of windows XP.. that XPs directory
> structure needs to be simplified, that it has too many branches off the
> root directory, that it is harder to navigate than win98... my friend
> was having trouble finding things again, adn the windows explorer in xp
> makes it difficult ot find the actual directory where certaikn desired
> files are stored..
>
> of course i explained to this friend for the millionth time how GEOs
> already has the best and simple and easiest to navigate directory
> structure and that if he waits ten years, microsoft just might get
> around ot simplifiying the unnecessarily complicated XP mulituser
> (unneeded feature), many foldered OS which no one really needs at
> home... especially when, as pat loves to point out, PCs are so cheap
> that home users can buy a pc for each person in the house, and run on
> each pc a simpler, easier to maintain and navigate single user OS .
>
>
> and by the way... the great pc running XP locked up incessantly while
> burning video CDs.. maede the CDs fail and of course, teh computer
> would hang, CD stuck in drive,.. adn we had ot cut the power ot the
> pc and reboot just to get access to the cd drive to remove the disk..
> of which we then had to fully erase teh CD-RW disk for reburning since
> it would not play at all in his new panasonic DVD player (happened
> several times).. this problem was only fixed after isolating/diagnosing
> the problem and downloading an ***obscure**** NTI CDmaker 2000
> customized for polaroid CDRW drive patch from NTI's website.
>
> so much for the " easy to use XP OS software" story line.. had i not
> diagnosed and fixed his pc/software, the expenisive XP toy would have
> never worked and my friend would not be enjoying his "art films" on
> video Cds.
>
> moral of the story is : XP is no guarantee of reliability or pain free
> com[puting expeirience.. adn if the same programming and financial
> resources would be thrown at geos as are thrown at all version of
> windows, geos wouild bury windows with ease of use adn a much more
> satisfying computing experience .. it is the only true consumer product
> OS out there for IBM compatible PCs, which the global pc demonstrates
> very well.
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > HINT: There are only a couple newbies coming into the GEOS fold,
compared to
> > existing GEOS users who have left forever. If I were a GeoNut, I would
start
> > a campaign to keep GEOS users from leaving, as difficult a task as that
may
> > seem. You'll never get out of the hole you're in through newbies.
Especially
> > with newer PCs and upgrading older ones.
> >
> > Micro Center - 256MB of memory for $19.95.
> > Micro Center - 160GB 7200RPM (Special Edition - 8MB) drive for $99.
> >
> > http://www.microcenter.com/specials/index.html
> >
> > I bought one of those drives and filled 90% of it with video files for
doing
> > editing. Bless Windows XP for staying up and running solid for days
while I
> > repeatedly edited, authored and burned DVD projects, while
simultaneously
> > surfing the Internet high speed and downloading files. Even a newbie can
use
> > entry level software to do close to what I am doing. But a newbie would
be
> > stopped in their tracks if a DOS error suddenly stared the them in the
face.
> >
> > Bottom Line: GEOS is the cat's meow on an old GeoBook or a PC with very
> > limited resources. Seasoned GEOS users have already acquired serious
> > hardware and have graduated beyond their modest systems after realizing
that
> > Windows XP is so good. Newbies are in two camps. Some have legitimate
GEOS
> > needs, while others are really barking up the wrong tree, so to speak.
> >
> >
> >
>

That's a lie.

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B3FD6.2020100@prodigy.net...
> every basement in america is a repository of plenty of ISa bus parts.
>
> geos can run on new, modern, supposedly energy efficent "blow dryer"
> computer hardware..
>
> in fact, if geos use would become more widespead, computers would
> rapidly become even more energy efficient, aloowing for het mothballing
> of an untold number of Nuke/coalfired/natrual gas fired electric
> generating plants
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> >
> >
> > Old computers are more wasteful of electricity use than new ones. Also,
its
> > plain impossible to find ISA bus parts any more. Yes, you can definitely
> > find anything you want if you like hard enough. I guess that goes for
buying
> > buggy whips. But its just not convenient to maintain an old piece of
iron.
> > Hell, these things are not living breathing pets or human beings, they
are
> > old computers that wear out and eventually become door stops. Lok, I am
> > talking about the vast majority. Everytime I make a statement you tend
to
> > personalize it. In your case, the general rule gets broken.
> >
> >
> >
>

Just another nut who wants to put GEOS on the back of cereal boxes.

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B40F1.7020407@prodigy.net...
> i bet that "niche " extremist terrorist user you are ridiculing is using
> an already paid for 56k hardware modem in the isa slot rather than a
> "modern, sleek, up to date, bogs down the expensive P4 processor 56k
> software win modem" in a PCI slot
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > If you bothered to download the PDF file of the manual, you'd notice
that
> > there is only one model based on that board design with 3 ISA slots and
ONLY
> > 4 PCI slots, the other one has no ISA slots, because its a joke and this
> > mobo is just catering to some niche users who have some specialty need
for
> > an old card and app. Its not aimed at some jerk who wants to slap a 28.8
> > kbps ISA modem card in there when a PCI modem card would work perfectly
> > well.
>

All their wealth combined adds practically nothing to the reveue base in
this country. Its the middle class that represents the overwhelming
majority.


"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B41F1.6080509@prodigy.net...
> the people who can/ should spark the economy are the computer
> millionaris who sold there stocks at the market peak, leaving the rest
> of americans holding hte bag, with no cash remaining in hand to buy new
> computers.
>
> Pat wrote:
> >
> >
> > Verdict: Get off your fat posterior and let the butterflies out of that
> > billfold of yours and help spark the economy, or is that against your
> > religion?
> >
> >
>

Why bitch to me, tell the mororns in the MP3 thread, or is your ng reader
broken.


"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net...
> i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
> hardware mp3 cd player..
>
>
> i just want more geos internet app development..
>
> and a larger number of geos users to argue with...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > Hey Raybo,
> >
> > What do say to these upstarts who want an MP3 player for their GEOS.
Isn't
> > that against the GEOS mantra of GeoWrite, GeoWrite, GeoWrite!
> >
> >
>

It was the right tool over ten years ago and lost its uniqueness around
1992, IMHO.


"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B4760.3080802@prodigy.net...
> So geos is efficient.. i assume you mean more effiicent than windows..,
> adn you say that is an advantage..
>
> what you fail to understand is that windows did not become "more
> efficient" ..
>
>
> More powerful computer hardware has simply helped hide severe basic
> structural design flaws in the many very inefficient versions of windows
> people buy over and over and over..
>
>
>
> what other advatnages would you say geos has over windows?
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> >
> > I continue to harp on the fact that the average branded
> > 286 cost well over $1000 when GEOS was first released. One of its main
> > advantages was low memory and disk space usage. Isn't it amazing how
things
> > change so quickly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I am so sad for your friend.

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3D3E33.7080107@prodigy.net...
> without me ot fix his pc my friend would not be using his computer, or
> would go broke paying somone else to keep it running..
>
>
> free peeer support has been leveraged my microsoft to hlep maintain its
> monoply.. very smart on MSFT's part.. works as long as there are folks
> like me who do htis work on the cheap for friends..
>
>
> finally, i have encountered many peopole who STOPPED USING THEiR PCS..
> TOTALLY,... BECASUE OF PROBLEMS DUE TO WINDOWS.. , IN ADDITON tO
> VIRUSES, CORRUPT DRIVERS, BROKEN WINDWOS DUE TO BAD UNINSTALLS.. ETC
> ETC ETC.. SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF THOSE SITUATIONS IN HOUSES ALL OVER
> AMERICA..
>
>
> MAYBE this is why people buy new pcs adn throw their 2 year old pcs
> away.. why bother fixing it when it will cost so much to bring in a tech?
>
> wuindows makes pcs disposable like paper paltes, plasitc soda bottle..
> use once adn thorw away, and worry about the overflowing landfills
> later.. or ship the junk to china.
>
>
> windows is chaos run wild.. even IBM admits it
>
> the solution is geos, or an exact structuural clone of it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > I think your friend shoul use some other OS. What should it be? GEOS.
> > ROTFLAMO!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > "hyubso" wrote in message
> > news:3F3B3C76.5080707@prodigy.net...
> >
> >>for all that cheap powerful hardware, i was just at my friends this
> >>weekend to do some "video editing" adn video cd burning of his
> >>collection of old 8mm "art films"... while there my friend offered an
> >>***unsolicited*** critique of windows XP.. that XPs directory
> >>structure needs to be simplified, that it has too many branches off the
> >>root directory, that it is harder to navigate than win98... my friend
> >>was having trouble finding things again, adn the windows explorer in xp
> >>makes it difficult ot find the actual directory where certaikn desired
> >>files are stored..
> >>
> >> of course i explained to this friend for the millionth time how GEOs
> >>already has the best and simple and easiest to navigate directory
> >>structure and that if he waits ten years, microsoft just might get
> >>around ot simplifiying the unnecessarily complicated XP mulituser
> >>(unneeded feature), many foldered OS which no one really needs at
> >>home... especially when, as pat loves to point out, PCs are so cheap
> >>that home users can buy a pc for each person in the house, and run on
> >>each pc a simpler, easier to maintain and navigate single user OS .
> >>
> >>
> >>and by the way... the great pc running XP locked up incessantly while
> >>burning video CDs.. maede the CDs fail and of course, teh computer
> >>would hang, CD stuck in drive,.. adn we had ot cut the power ot the
> >>pc and reboot just to get access to the cd drive to remove the disk..
> >>of which we then had to fully erase teh CD-RW disk for reburning since
> >>it would not play at all in his new panasonic DVD player (happened
> >>several times).. this problem was only fixed after isolating/diagnosing
> >>the problem and downloading an ***obscure**** NTI CDmaker 2000
> >>customized for polaroid CDRW drive patch from NTI's website.
> >>
> >>so much for the " easy to use XP OS software" story line.. had i not
> >>diagnosed and fixed his pc/software, the expenisive XP toy would have
> >>never worked and my friend would not be enjoying his "art films" on
> >>video Cds.
> >>
> >>moral of the story is : XP is no guarantee of reliability or pain free
> >>com[puting expeirience.. adn if the same programming and financial
> >>resources would be thrown at geos as are thrown at all version of
> >>windows, geos wouild bury windows with ease of use adn a much more
> >>satisfying computing experience .. it is the only true consumer product
> >>OS out there for IBM compatible PCs, which the global pc demonstrates
> >>very well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Pat wrote:
> >>
> >>>HINT: There are only a couple newbies coming into the GEOS fold,
> >>
> > compared to
> >
> >>>existing GEOS users who have left forever. If I were a GeoNut, I would
> >>
> > start
> >
> >>>a campaign to keep GEOS users from leaving, as difficult a task as that
> >>
> > may
> >
> >>>seem. You'll never get out of the hole you're in through newbies.
> >>
> > Especially
> >
> >>>with newer PCs and upgrading older ones.
> >>>
> >>>Micro Center - 256MB of memory for $19.95.
> >>>Micro Center - 160GB 7200RPM (Special Edition - 8MB) drive for $99.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.microcenter.com/specials/index.html
> >>>
> >>>I bought one of those drives and filled 90% of it with video files for
> >>
> > doing
> >
> >>>editing. Bless Windows XP for staying up and running solid for days
> >>
> > while I
> >
> >>>repeatedly edited, authored and burned DVD projects, while
> >>
> > simultaneously
> >
> >>>surfing the Internet high speed and downloading files. Even a newbie
can
> >>
> > use
> >
> >>>entry level software to do close to what I am doing. But a newbie would
> >>
> > be
> >
> >>>stopped in their tracks if a DOS error suddenly stared the them in the
> >>
> > face.
> >
> >>>Bottom Line: GEOS is the cat's meow on an old GeoBook or a PC with very
> >>>limited resources. Seasoned GEOS users have already acquired serious
> >>>hardware and have graduated beyond their modest systems after realizing
> >>
> > that
> >
> >>>Windows XP is so good. Newbies are in two camps. Some have legitimate
> >>
> > GEOS
> >
> >>>needs, while others are really barking up the wrong tree, so to speak.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net...
> i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
> hardware mp3 cd player..
>
>
> i just want more geos internet app development..
>
> and a larger number of geos users to argue with...

It aint gonna happen, my friend. GEOS is finished. Don't you realize its
over. Its a fancy, shmancy DOS program.

My stocks have gone up since I dollar cost average. Why not go live in a
country where you can watch inflation eat your currency like cancer.


"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F3D2162.40900@prodigy.net...
> most americans do...
>
> consumer and corporate debt is at the highest it has been since 1929..
>
> so watch your stocks..
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:
> > From this am I to extrapolate about all people being like that. What a
mo.
> >
> > "hyubso" wrote in message
> > news:3F3B44BE.8020004@prodigy.net...
> >
> >>i have a friend who is surrounded by credit card debt right now.. what
> >>a hangover for a few years of consuming more than he could pay for..
> >>
> >>
> >>now he can't even eat at mcdonalds!
> >>
> >>
> >>geeeezzzz!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Pat wrote:
> >>
> >>>No more, no less. Geeeeez!
> >>>
> >>>Not everything is metered like a gas pump. Your entire life is
> >>
> > surrounded by
> >
> >>>objects that have more than you consume or the opposite. This includes
> >>>GEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Hans,

Can you give me a date after which you would admit its over?



"Hans Lindgren" wrote in message
news:NewsReader.1.0.200381661073722976@news1.telia .com...
> Pat wrote:
> >
> > "hyubso" wrote in message
> > news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net...
> > > i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
> > > hardware mp3 cd player..
> > >
> > >
> > > i just want more geos internet app development..
> > >
> > > and a larger number of geos users to argue with...
> >
> > It aint gonna happen, my friend. GEOS is finished. Don't you realize its
> > over. Its a fancy, shmancy DOS program.
>
> It will happen..................................
>
> BR,
> Hans

i say its over when breadbox throws in the towel and either gnu licenses
all the geos code or sells it to India or China..... and then it will
not really be over.. it will be a new beginning.

i guess it will be really really really over when Bill G buys up the
geos source code and burns it in the massive fireplace in his giant mansion.





Pat wrote:
> Hans,
>
> Can you give me a date after which you would admit its over?
>
>
>
> "Hans Lindgren" wrote in message
> news:NewsReader.1.0.200381661073722976@news1.telia .com...
>
>>Pat wrote:
>>
>>>"hyubso" wrote in message
>>>news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net...
>>>
>>>>i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
>>>>hardware mp3 cd player..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>i just want more geos internet app development..
>>>>
>>>>and a larger number of geos users to argue with...
>>>
>>>It aint gonna happen, my friend. GEOS is finished. Don't you realize its
>>>over. Its a fancy, shmancy DOS program.
>>
>>It will happen..................................
>>
>>BR,
>>Hans
>
>
>

Nope, I can't and I don't think any person can predict the future, but many
claims they can, like Nostradamus...... ;-)

BR,
Hans

Pat wrote:
> Hans,
>
> Can you give me a date after which you would admit its over?
>
>
>
> "Hans Lindgren" wrote in message
> news:NewsReader.1.0.200381661073722976@news1.telia .com...
> > Pat wrote:
> > >
> > > "hyubso" wrote in message
> > > news:3F3B4449.4010803@prodigy.net...
> > > > i don't want an mp3 player for geos.. i already have a Philips $30
> > > > hardware mp3 cd player..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > i just want more geos internet app development..
> > > >
> > > > and a larger number of geos users to argue with...
> > >
> > > It aint gonna happen, my friend. GEOS is finished. Don't you realize
its
> > > over. Its a fancy, shmancy DOS program.
> >
> > It will happen..................................
> >
> > BR,
> > Hans
>
>
>