this was just one "idea" or "concept" to make more marketable and
useful geos based/global pc types of products.. ie; being able to do
more of the same things windows pcs do all in software , but more
reliably using cheap and OS agnostic specialty hardware partnered with
less expensive/less powerful processors, all controlled by simpler but
just as effective geos apps ...

when the customer asks "can it record/play mp3s?" or 'can it record/play
TV shows?" the sales person should not have to answer "no" and lose
the sale. had such features been built into the GPC (which was
locked into using geos sosftare only with no realistic option to install
and effectively run windows ), maybe the GPC would have sold rather
than piled up in warehouses, and myturn might have survived??


but your suggestion to just plug my mp3/cd player into the gpc line in
jack is valid, but i can listen directly from the player using
headphones or by pluggin it intothe line in jack on my stereo, which has
better speakers and a more powerful amplifier than the gpc.


finally, an example of using hardware rather than windwos software to do
a job..: my mpeg tv capture card.. i first tried a software based
WinTV PCIcard on my old duron 950.. and the mpeg tv shows degraded into
awful messes of pixels and artifacts as recording stretched past 10
minutes in length.. i then bought a hardware mpeg card (creative video
blaster) and it had no trouble making perfect recordings of TV shows on
the same pc.. and its simple windows app (which looks more like a dos
app)like dos) seems to just control the card and nothing more.. all
mpeg processing is done in hardware.. couldn't a geos based app, if it
existed, control this card just as well???




Hans Lindgren wrote:
> Seems to be an odd overkill, just buy any hardware MP3 player (CD or whaterver)
> and jack it in into the line in jacket of the global PC.
> Otherwise you can test if the Global PC will be sufficent to play MP3 files
> from, by making a bootable DOS diskette, boot the global PC with that disk
> and run any DOS command line MP3 player from the harddive with any MP3 file
> you have downloaded with GEOS. If you want to try this I can e-mail you a
> 486 MP3-player. If this works, you can ask for a MP3-player for the Global
> PC. The hardware is no problem, if you CAN play MP3 files with the DOS player.
>
> BR,
> Hans
>
> hyubso wrote:
>
>>why not just build a computer with a hardware mp3 player chip (ie: add
>>an mp3 chip to the global pc).. then program for geos a method of
>>controlling a hardware mp3 player with contorls like stop, play fast
>>forwad reverse, skip, record, etc), just like geos cd player software
>>controls music CDS played in pc cdrom drives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John Howard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Yup, I'm one of the Breadbox guys. There has already been some work
>>>done on developing an MP3 player for Geos, but it has been shelved until
>>>Geos32 gets here.
>>>
>>>John ;-)
>>>
>>
>>

I think specialized hradware isn't bad. But a CPU for MP3 shouldn't used for
that purpose only. It can be a DSP (like the nice ones from TI), have very
low power consumption and therefor produce lower heat. A 486 power scale
processor with a DSP can control the GUI, media player and even do video
cutting. There's still specialized hardware for professional video editing
used in the world. And games can use mostly the graphic chip. Now, the CPU
does only KI and data moving. Better DMA and an implementation of the KI
part like T&L into the graphic chip will make the main CPU useless ... ;-))

Andreas

"hyubso" wrote in message
news:3F175B97.8080506@prodigy.net...
> this was just one "idea" or "concept" to make more marketable and
> useful geos based/global pc types of products.. ie; being able to do
> more of the same things windows pcs do all in software , but more
> reliably using cheap and OS agnostic specialty hardware partnered with
> less expensive/less powerful processors, all controlled by simpler but
> just as effective geos apps ...
>
> when the customer asks "can it record/play mp3s?" or 'can it record/play
> TV shows?" the sales person should not have to answer "no" and lose
> the sale. had such features been built into the GPC (which was
> locked into using geos sosftare only with no realistic option to install
> and effectively run windows ), maybe the GPC would have sold rather
> than piled up in warehouses, and myturn might have survived??
>
>
> but your suggestion to just plug my mp3/cd player into the gpc line in
> jack is valid, but i can listen directly from the player using
> headphones or by pluggin it intothe line in jack on my stereo, which has
> better speakers and a more powerful amplifier than the gpc.
>
>
> finally, an example of using hardware rather than windwos software to do
> a job..: my mpeg tv capture card.. i first tried a software based
> WinTV PCIcard on my old duron 950.. and the mpeg tv shows degraded into
> awful messes of pixels and artifacts as recording stretched past 10
> minutes in length.. i then bought a hardware mpeg card (creative video
> blaster) and it had no trouble making perfect recordings of TV shows on
> the same pc.. and its simple windows app (which looks more like a dos
> app)like dos) seems to just control the card and nothing more.. all
> mpeg processing is done in hardware.. couldn't a geos based app, if it
> existed, control this card just as well???
>
>
>
>
> Hans Lindgren wrote:
> > Seems to be an odd overkill, just buy any hardware MP3 player (CD or
whaterver)
> > and jack it in into the line in jacket of the global PC.
> > Otherwise you can test if the Global PC will be sufficent to play MP3
files
> > from, by making a bootable DOS diskette, boot the global PC with that
disk
> > and run any DOS command line MP3 player from the harddive with any MP3
file
> > you have downloaded with GEOS. If you want to try this I can e-mail you
a
> > 486 MP3-player. If this works, you can ask for a MP3-player for the
Global
> > PC. The hardware is no problem, if you CAN play MP3 files with the DOS
player.
> >
> > BR,
> > Hans
> >
> > hyubso wrote:
> >
> >>why not just build a computer with a hardware mp3 player chip (ie: add
> >>an mp3 chip to the global pc).. then program for geos a method of
> >>controlling a hardware mp3 player with contorls like stop, play fast
> >>forwad reverse, skip, record, etc), just like geos cd player software
> >>controls music CDS played in pc cdrom drives.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>John Howard wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Yup, I'm one of the Breadbox guys. There has already been some work
> >>>done on developing an MP3 player for Geos, but it has been shelved
until
> >>>Geos32 gets here.
> >>>
> >>>John ;-)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>