Re: Living in the past

Well, smart is a big word, I would say with little or no respect of computers.
Some kids are smart but many will also end up messing up. I still believe,
by every day's practice, that knowing the command line and it's commands
is still quite useful. And I feel pity for those who refuse to learn it as
it is often the emergency exit solving a problem.

BR,
Hans



Pat wrote:[color=blue]
> Kids are very smart and savvy about computers. For example, a smart four
> year old is annoyed if you try to help them with using the computer. Don't
> get your fingers near a smart kid who is hell bent on loading a game,[/color]
I warn[color=blue]
> you now. ;-)
>
> All kidding aside, its true, DOS is an ancient command line that mostly
> older users have knowledge about!
>
>
>
>
> "Hans Lindgren" <Hans.Lindgren@abc.se> wrote in message
> news:NewsReader.1.0.2003627523394922608@news1.telia.com...[color=green]
> > Well, that is correct. I often meet Windows engineers who don't know[/color][/color]
how[color=blue][color=green]
> > the DOS prompt works. They just can click on cute little icons. When[/color][/color]
they[color=blue][color=green]
> > are forced to use the command line they shiver. OTOH, I have my bread[/color]
> secured[color=green]
> > for the rest of my life. But *that* makes me stressed......will I ever[/color][/color]
get[color=blue][color=green]
> > retired? <BG>
> >
> > BR,
> > Hans
> >
> > Pat wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Older PC users who were exposed to DOS remember all the eccentricities.[/color]
> > Kids[color=darkred]
> > > are clueless about DOS. Even their games are all Windows oriented.[/color][/color][/color]
I[color=blue]
> rarely[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > see a DOS book in a computer section of Barnes and Noble, for example.[/color]
> > The[color=darkred]
> > > average DOS user was more amenable to learning about memory managers,[/color]
> > but[color=darkred]
> > > the average Windows user is going to eschew DOS as being too arcane.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "C BLANK II" <cblankii@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030626022306.09634.00001103@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > ***Minor Setup. <Smirk> GEOS often requires tweaking of DOS memory
> > > manager,
> > > > plus other AUTOEXEC and CONFIGSYS parameters, not to mention GEOS[/color][/color]
> tweaks[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > for
> > > > various and sundry reasons. Look back at the number of messages[/color][/color][/color]
in[color=blue]
> COGM,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > and***
> > > >
> > > > Pat, there are a handful of settings to setup GEOS in DOS. They[/color][/color][/color]
are[color=blue][color=green]
> > easy[color=darkred]
> > > to
> > > > learn and with a little help from such groups as this, the few who[/color][/color]
> need[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the
> > > > help (I was one back then) learn easily. Once set up there is little[/color]
> > that[color=darkred]
> > > ever
> > > > needs to be done again. The biggest flurry of help desired posts[/color][/color][/color]
in[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > old AOL
> > > > forum and here had mainly to do with dealing with MSDOS 5 on up[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > fast[color=darkred]
> > > > systems beyond 486s. That was fixed in newer GEOS versions than[/color][/color]
> Ensemble[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > 2.01.
> > > > Haven't seen many posts since then about DOS setup issues with GEOS.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chip Blank
> > > > GUI
> > > > GeoGrafix
> > > >
> > > > The GEOS Users International website is at:
> > > > [url]http://hometown.aol.com/GUIUSA/GUI_USA.html[/url]
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

when i have ot repair the software on a windows pc, which often means
deleting and reinstalling windows, i use "deltree" and "attrib" to
delectively delete all files and folder EXCEPT FOR DOCUMENT
FOLDERS/files whic 99% fo the time people have not backed up.

this way i get a clean windows installation without having to format the
hard dive, preserving someone's precious documents without having ot
reisntall a new windows on top of an old bad windows

it is too difficult to do this inside of windows, especially one that
is not running properly..






Pat wrote:[color=blue]
> Hans, would you go out
> of your way to do something via command line if you could do it using a GUI
> interface?[/color]

A better way is to do backups. <g>

Regards your "hanging judge" mentality vis-à-vis Windows, am I glad you're
not my doctor. Every ailment would result in another organ being
obliterated. LOL!


"hyubso" <hyubso@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:3F00563A.5020709@prodigy.net...[color=blue]
> when i have ot repair the software on a windows pc, which often means
> deleting and reinstalling windows, i use "deltree" and "attrib" to
> delectively delete all files and folder EXCEPT FOR DOCUMENT
> FOLDERS/files whic 99% fo the time people have not backed up.
>
> this way i get a clean windows installation without having to format the
> hard dive, preserving someone's precious documents without having ot
> reisntall a new windows on top of an old bad windows
>
> it is too difficult to do this inside of windows, especially one that
> is not running properly..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:[color=green]
> > Hans, would you go out
> > of your way to do something via command line if you could do it using a[/color][/color]
GUI[color=blue][color=green]
> > interface?[/color]
>[/color]

that is like telling aptient to quit smoking, and then getting them to
actually do it.




Pat wrote:[color=blue]
> A better way is to do backups. <g>
>
> Regards your "hanging judge" mentality vis-à-vis Windows, am I glad you're
> not my doctor. Every ailment would result in another organ being
> obliterated. LOL!
>
>[/color]

No, its just good practice to do backups and nobody, not even those who are
not found of me, will advocate otherwise, if in fact backing up is an doable
option by the user.


"hyubso" <hyubso@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:3F01313D.8070001@prodigy.net...[color=blue]
> that is like telling aptient to quit smoking, and then getting them to
> actually do it.
>
>
>
>
> Pat wrote:[color=green]
> > A better way is to do backups. <g>
> >
> > Regards your "hanging judge" mentality vis-à-vis Windows, am I glad[/color][/color]
you're[color=blue][color=green]
> > not my doctor. Every ailment would result in another organ being
> > obliterated. LOL!
> >
> >[/color]
>[/color]