Hey Commander Howard!!

It's been quite awhile since you announced that Breadbox was releasing its'
32-bit GEOS. How's the project coming? (LOL! Like it's coming at all!!!)

Talk about vaporware? LOL! Breadbox = 2 guys and a boat + no cash float!

Peace, Love & Understanding,

Bob

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob" spake unto us, saying:

>Talk about vaporware? LOL!

Okay. Let's talk about Microsoft's Cairo. :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
news:gBqRFpHpvKVN092yn@visi.com...
> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob" spake unto us,
> saying:
>
>>Talk about vaporware? LOL!
>
> Okay. Let's talk about Microsoft's Cairo. :-)
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA
> USA
> Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
> WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
> The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Or Vista?

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob"
spake unto us, saying:

>"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>news:gBqRFpHpvKVN092yn@visi.com...
>> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob" spake unto us,
>> saying:
>>
>>>Talk about vaporware? LOL!
>>
>> Okay. Let's talk about Microsoft's Cairo. :-)
>
>Or Vista?

Lots of new eye candy and a new product version/licensing maze, but
very little new technology of consequence, and the object-oriented
database filesystem that was promised for Cairo back in 1992 (OFS)
still ain't happening.

Typical.

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Richard Steiner wrote:

> Lots of new eye candy and a new product version/licensing maze, but
> very little new technology of consequence, and the object-oriented
> database filesystem that was promised for Cairo back in 1992 (OFS)
> still ain't happening.
>
> Typical.


That OO database is running in some select labs around Redmond and one
particular one in a tiny (but mighty) lab in California, but its not
going to see daylight until Vista is released and proven. Time will
tell if the rewrite of XP (aka. Vista) is a success or a failure.
Atleast its Boss of all Operating Systems.

Finally, lets applaud Apple for dumping flawed processors and finally
jumping on the WinTel bandwagon.

And lets hear some bagpipes for GEOS and OS/2, a couple of great
efforts that crashed and burned during their maiden journeys across the
USA.

Long live WinTel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpatpar@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:

>And lets hear some bagpipes for GEOS and OS/2, a couple of great
>efforts that crashed and burned during their maiden journeys across
>the USA.

OS/2 1.0 was released in 1987, and it's still being improved almost 20
years later thanks to Serenity Systems and eComStation.

It shares files with Windows and Linux, it has at least two Firefox
development branches (one a stock port, the other with various native
GUI enhancements) plus Seamonkey, a native OpenOffice 2.x is currently
in beta, and John C. Dvorak (remember him?) was a guest speaker at
Warpstock X just a couple of weeks ago.

OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
news:GE/TFpHpv+jE092yn@visi.com...
>
> OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
> turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
> survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
> Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA
> USA
> Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
> WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
> The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Hehehehe...LOL! Well put. I'd LOVE to see competition in the OS market. I
don't see it happining for years.....and years....and even then some MS
is so locked in I can't see it being displaced in anyway. It is sad, but
youse gotta admit it's true. It's a done deal for now and for the for-c-able
ever. On well, as Mick Jagger put it: "What can a poor boy do, 'cept to sing
in an rock 'n' roll band?"

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob"
spake unto us, saying:

>"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>news:GE/TFpHpv+jE092yn@visi.com...
>
>> OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
>> turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
>> survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
>> Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)
>
>Hehehehe...LOL! Well put. I'd LOVE to see competition in the OS market. I
>don't see it happining for years.....and years....and even then some

Competition does happen at the OS level -- just not on the desktop.

At work I develop and maintain software running under Solaris (Sun's
UNIX variant) and OS2200 (one of Unisys' two mainframe platforms), and
Microsoft has very little influence on either platform, though I admit
I'm working from a XP Pro box using Cygwin, PuTTY, and various UTS
emulators (Liason and UTS Express).

>MS is so locked in I can't see it being displaced in anyway.

Windows Vista is coming. We live in interesting times. :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
news:6GtUFpHpv22Y092yn@visi.com...
> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob"
> spake unto us, saying:
>
>>"Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>>news:GE/TFpHpv+jE092yn@visi.com...
>>
>>> OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
>>> turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
>>> survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
>>> Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)
>>
>>Hehehehe...LOL! Well put. I'd LOVE to see competition in the OS market. I
>>don't see it happining for years.....and years....and even then some
>
> Competition does happen at the OS level -- just not on the desktop.
>
> At work I develop and maintain software running under Solaris (Sun's
> UNIX variant) and OS2200 (one of Unisys' two mainframe platforms), and
> Microsoft has very little influence on either platform, though I admit
> I'm working from a XP Pro box using Cygwin, PuTTY, and various UTS
> emulators (Liason and UTS Express).
>
>>MS is so locked in I can't see it being displaced in anyway.
>
> Windows Vista is coming. We live in interesting times. :-)
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA
> USA
> Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
> WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
> The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

You know it's sad but true. I've recently started teaching at a Vocational
High School. One of the "Labs" I've done is with GEOS 2.01. It is amazing
when explained properly how much the "kids", grades 9 - 12, really dig GEOS,
again as explained within the history of computer based OS's, GUI's
whatever. I also use Linux "Puppy" and "Ubuntu" as it doesn't mess up their
XP boxes, (boot for CD etc.), and they love it.

Sadly the fact of life is it is Windows 2000/3 Server, and XP Pro desktop.
Anything else is interesting but.....

Oh well. >

Bob wrote:
> "Richard Steiner" wrote in message
> news:6GtUFpHpv22Y092yn@visi.com...
>> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob"
>> spake unto us, saying:
>>
>>> "Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>>> news:GE/TFpHpv+jE092yn@visi.com...
>>>
>>>> OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
>>>> turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
>>>> survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
>>>> Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)
>>> Hehehehe...LOL! Well put. I'd LOVE to see competition in the OS market. I
>>> don't see it happining for years.....and years....and even then some
>> Competition does happen at the OS level -- just not on the desktop.
>>
>> At work I develop and maintain software running under Solaris (Sun's
>> UNIX variant) and OS2200 (one of Unisys' two mainframe platforms), and
>> Microsoft has very little influence on either platform, though I admit
>> I'm working from a XP Pro box using Cygwin, PuTTY, and various UTS
>> emulators (Liason and UTS Express).
>>
>>> MS is so locked in I can't see it being displaced in anyway.
>> Windows Vista is coming. We live in interesting times. :-)
>>
>> --
>> -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA
>> USA
>> Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
>> WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
>> The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
>
> You know it's sad but true. I've recently started teaching at a Vocational
> High School. One of the "Labs" I've done is with GEOS 2.01. It is amazing
> when explained properly how much the "kids", grades 9 - 12, really dig GEOS,
> again as explained within the history of computer based OS's, GUI's
> whatever. I also use Linux "Puppy" and "Ubuntu" as it doesn't mess up their
> XP boxes, (boot for CD etc.), and they love it.
>
> Sadly the fact of life is it is Windows 2000/3 Server, and XP Pro desktop.
> Anything else is interesting but.....
>
> Oh well. >
>
>

Just thought I would jump in here. I don't often post here, but
occasionally I still drop by. I have been seriously looking for a
replacement for Windows, so I try lots of different stuff. Currently, I
am exploring the Linux world, and some distros are very good and it is
amazing what you can get for free. However, I am currently trying the
latest version of Xandros, the Premium Home edition. A lot of the Linux
geeks don't like it, because it isn't free, and it requires activation.
The later doesn't bother me, as it will allow 10 activations on either
new installs, or reinstalls. Even then, you can get more if you call
with a good reason. So far, I really like it. It seems to have
everything I need, including Crossover office if I want to run Windows
apps. The cost was less that $60 from Amazon with free shipping and no
sales tax. Considering that I have four computers at home, if I wanted
to install Xandros on all four, that works out to less that $15 dollars
each. Since it is a recent install, I can't make any definitive
judgements just yet. It also comes with a pretty complete security
suite, which is something I have been wanting with Linux. Anyway, just
my 2 cents worth.

Roger

Downloading the free trail version as I write. I'll let you know, and thanks
for the info.

"Roger Bentson" wrote in message
news:k5adnalA1O3RwMvYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
> Bob wrote:
>> "Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>> news:6GtUFpHpv22Y092yn@visi.com...
>>> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, "Bob"
>>> spake unto us, saying:
>>>
>>>> "Richard Steiner" wrote in message
>>>> news:GE/TFpHpv+jE092yn@visi.com...
>>>>
>>>>> OS/2 crashed and burned because Microsoft bribed the control towers to
>>>>> turn off the lights at most of the airports, but the few aircraft that
>>>>> survived MS's questionable tactics are faster and more agile than any
>>>>> Windows aircraft that's ever been released. :-)
>>>> Hehehehe...LOL! Well put. I'd LOVE to see competition in the OS market.
>>>> I
>>>> don't see it happining for years.....and years....and even then some
>>> Competition does happen at the OS level -- just not on the desktop.
>>>
>>> At work I develop and maintain software running under Solaris (Sun's
>>> UNIX variant) and OS2200 (one of Unisys' two mainframe platforms), and
>>> Microsoft has very little influence on either platform, though I admit
>>> I'm working from a XP Pro box using Cygwin, PuTTY, and various UTS
>>> emulators (Liason and UTS Express).
>>>
>>>> MS is so locked in I can't see it being displaced in anyway.
>>> Windows Vista is coming. We live in interesting times. :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA
>>> USA
>>> Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
>>> WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
>>> The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
>>
>> You know it's sad but true. I've recently started teaching at a
>> Vocational High School. One of the "Labs" I've done is with GEOS 2.01. It
>> is amazing when explained properly how much the "kids", grades 9 - 12,
>> really dig GEOS, again as explained within the history of computer based
>> OS's, GUI's whatever. I also use Linux "Puppy" and "Ubuntu" as it doesn't
>> mess up their XP boxes, (boot for CD etc.), and they love it.
>>
>> Sadly the fact of life is it is Windows 2000/3 Server, and XP Pro
>> desktop. Anything else is interesting but.....
>>
>> Oh well. >
>>
>>
>
> Just thought I would jump in here. I don't often post here, but
> occasionally I still drop by. I have been seriously looking for a
> replacement for Windows, so I try lots of different stuff. Currently, I
> am exploring the Linux world, and some distros are very good and it is
> amazing what you can get for free. However, I am currently trying the
> latest version of Xandros, the Premium Home edition. A lot of the Linux
> geeks don't like it, because it isn't free, and it requires activation.
> The later doesn't bother me, as it will allow 10 activations on either new
> installs, or reinstalls. Even then, you can get more if you call with a
> good reason. So far, I really like it. It seems to have everything I
> need, including Crossover office if I want to run Windows apps. The cost
> was less that $60 from Amazon with free shipping and no sales tax.
> Considering that I have four computers at home, if I wanted to install
> Xandros on all four, that works out to less that $15 dollars each. Since
> it is a recent install, I can't make any definitive judgements just yet.
> It also comes with a pretty complete security suite, which is something I
> have been wanting with Linux. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.
>
> Roger

Roger Bentson wrote:
> I have been seriously looking for a
> replacement for Windows, so I try lots of different stuff.

Personally, I would stick with Windows rather than go with yet another
Linux variant, with all the associated problems, because support from
hardware and software makers is like a piece of swiss cheese. If you
want tremendous choice of options and paths, go with Windows. If you
want to have fun exploring Linux, then UBUNTU is the closest thing in a
Linux package to Windows, IMHO!


> RICHARD STEINER - Re: Vista being a trivial release.

First of all, Vista has a significant amount of new code, just like
GEOS32 was promised to be overhauled because GEOS3 ran out of steam and
needed a rewrite, Vista has a redesigned kernel that takes advantage of
some of the multiprocessing cores (eg. Intel Core 2 Duo) being
introduced in mainstream boxes. The VISTA OS and applications software
will take full advantage of this and the user will be oblivious to what
is being accomplished under the hood. In addition, the security model
is much improved. To dismiss Vista as fluff is ridiculous and
incorrect. Please, do some research before mouthing off. Unfortunately,
when you have 50M lines of new code, the bug factor has to be a huge
concern. Its not possible to test all the permulations and even though
the latest RFM build is good, it will require fixes, just like Linux.
Just like GEOS. Just like Apple's OSX, Just like every friggin'
mainframe and mini OS I've ever worked on, etc. They are no diferent.
And the bigger the base of users, guess what? The bigger the bucket of
bugs. NO PAIN, NO GAIN. Duuuuh!

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpatpar@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:

>> RICHARD STEINER - Re: Vista being a trivial release.
>
>First of all, Vista has a significant amount of new code ...

So? Windows XP had a significant amount of new code, and yet many
folks consider it a downgrade from Windows 2000.

>The VISTA OS and applications software will take full advantage of
>this and the user will be oblivious to what is being accomplished
>under the hood.

Most Windows users are oblivious about a lot of things. :-)

Any decent multithreading OS with SMP capabilities should be able to
efficiently spread a multithreaded task across more than one CPU, so
it's nice to see that Microsoft is able to create an OS that has some
basic capabilities in this area. Whether or not performance actually
improves in a multi-core or multi-CPU environment remains to be seen.

>In addition, the security model is much improved.

I'll wait for real-world installations to verify this bit of trivia.

>To dismiss Vista as fluff is ridiculous and incorrect.

Why? I've witnessed almost 20 years of Microsoft press releases by now
regarding their new operating system releases, and the majority of the
time the statements and claims they have made regarding their new OSes
has been somewhat exaggerated.

I've been a PC user for a long time, and I'm quite familiar with a wide
variety of operating systems and environments on that hardware. For a
new platform to impress me, it actually has to perform as expected in
my own environment.

Until that actually happens, all press releases and reviews in the IT
press are little more than hearsay.

You might take software companies' claims on faith. I do not.

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Windows might be a more acceptable option if it wasn't so darn
expensive. Everything that I have read says that to get a version that
is really worth while, you have to pay through the nose ( actually
pocket book ). Considering that I have four computers, including my
wife's laptop, I just can't see going that route. While I am not a
Linux pro by any means, I have had no troubles installing or using most
versions, although sticking to the GUI, and avoiding using the command
line. I have tried Ubuntu, an I don't really like it. I find that it
can't do a lot of basic things like video with it, and I have yet to be
able to do an install with dual boot capabilities. I have had no
problems in that respect with various other distros. Another factor, is
that I like to at least partially assemble my own computers, and do
various upgrades, but if I do something major like install a new
motherboard, I have to get a new license ( more major bucks ) from
Microsoft. And its not only Windows. Most of the major software makers
require that you only install on one computer ( anti-virus, etc ).

So here is my basic plan. 1)Only get Vista if I happen to buy a new
computer with it already loaded. 2) Hang on to what I have for as long
as possible. 3) Keep experimenting with alternatives and see what I
can come up with.

Consider Xandros 4.0 premium. It comes with crossover office, so I can
run a lot of Windows apps. It has Firefox, Open Office 2.x, anti-virus,
firewall and spyware protection. I can play DVDs, music and stuff with
photos. Etc, etc. The ONLY reason that I haven't as yet switched
totally over, is my wife. She has to have her Windows games. If I can
get them to run with Crossover office - lookout! The total cost for
Xandros was less that $60 dollars. I can reinstall on different
hardware without worry. And worse comes to worse, maybe I have to
upgrade to a newer version once and awhile. Vista may very well be a
great operating system, but my question ( for myself ) is, is it worth it?

Roger

winpatpar@hotmail.com wrote:
> Roger Bentson wrote:
>> I have been seriously looking for a
>> replacement for Windows, so I try lots of different stuff.
>
> Personally, I would stick with Windows rather than go with yet another
> Linux variant, with all the associated problems, because support from
> hardware and software makers is like a piece of swiss cheese. If you
> want tremendous choice of options and paths, go with Windows. If you
> want to have fun exploring Linux, then UBUNTU is the closest thing in a
> Linux package to Windows, IMHO!
>
>
>> RICHARD STEINER - Re: Vista being a trivial release.
>
> First of all, Vista has a significant amount of new code, just like
> GEOS32 was promised to be overhauled because GEOS3 ran out of steam and
> needed a rewrite, Vista has a redesigned kernel that takes advantage of
> some of the multiprocessing cores (eg. Intel Core 2 Duo) being
> introduced in mainstream boxes. The VISTA OS and applications software
> will take full advantage of this and the user will be oblivious to what
> is being accomplished under the hood. In addition, the security model
> is much improved. To dismiss Vista as fluff is ridiculous and
> incorrect. Please, do some research before mouthing off. Unfortunately,
> when you have 50M lines of new code, the bug factor has to be a huge
> concern. Its not possible to test all the permulations and even though
> the latest RFM build is good, it will require fixes, just like Linux.
> Just like GEOS. Just like Apple's OSX, Just like every friggin'
> mainframe and mini OS I've ever worked on, etc. They are no diferent.
> And the bigger the base of users, guess what? The bigger the bucket of
> bugs. NO PAIN, NO GAIN. Duuuuh!
>

On Nov 28 2006, 12:26 am, rstei...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:
> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpat...@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:

> You might take software companies' claims on faith. I do not.

Of course, I am assuming that you are aware a beta has existed for some
time now, and you can test it for yourself. But, here we are in 2007
and Vista is about to be released to the consumer world in a few weeks
so we can start a new era of Windows. Its an on going process and even
Apple is doing it. Unfortunately, IBM and GEOWORKS came up empty many
years ago. Sorry!

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpatpar@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:

>On Nov 28 2006, 12:26 am, rstei...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:
>
>> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpat...@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:
>
>> You might take software companies' claims on faith. I do not.
>
>Of course, I am assuming that you are aware a beta has existed for some
>time now, and you can test it for yourself.

Actually, I can't -- I have no hardware here capable of booting Vista
(unless you think it will install, boot, and run on a PPro/200 with
196MB of RAM, which is the largest and fastest box I have here).

>Unfortunately, IBM and GEOWORKS came up empty many years ago. Sorry!

IBM's OS/2 operating system has been powering my home desktop since
1992. I wish more products would "come up empty" like that. :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

On Jan 14, 5:52 am, rstei...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:
> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpat...@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:
>
Actually, I can't -- I have no hardware here capable of booting Vista
> (unless you think it will install, boot, and run on a PPro/200 with
> 196MB of RAM, which is the largest and fastest box I have here).
>
>
Richard, please don't be cute. Surely you have access to more hardware
at work or somewhere that can run Vista. Anyway, its too late. Vista
will be plastered all over new machines that cost one-third the cost of
a typical GEOS PC being sold 15 years ago.



> 1992. I wish more products would "come up empty" like that. :-)

Sure. Virtually anything on a PC that is not Linux, Windows, or OS/X.
ROTFLMAO!


Relax, I'm just pulling your leg a bit. GEOS was a contender for a few
years back in 1990-91.

Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpatpar@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:


>On Jan 14, 5:52 am, rstei...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:
>>
>> Actually, I can't -- I have no hardware here capable of booting Vista
>> (unless you think it will install, boot, and run on a PPro/200 with
>> 196MB of RAM, which is the largest and fastest box I have here).
>
>Richard, please don't be cute. Surely you have access to more hardware
>at work or somewhere that can run Vista.

Not really. Vista is not permitted on the corporate LAN at work, and I
don't have the authority to install it on either of my work PCs anyway.

>Anyway, its too late. Vista will be plastered all over new machines
>that cost one-third the cost of a typical GEOS PC being sold 15
>years ago.

True. PC prices have come down a LOT in the past 15 years. Too bad
that OS prices haven't also dropped. :-(

>> 1992. I wish more products would "come up empty" like that. :-)
>
>Sure. Virtually anything on a PC that is not Linux, Windows, or OS/X.
>ROTFLMAO!

Pffffbbbbbttttt!!! :-)

>Relax, I'm just pulling your leg a bit. GEOS was a contender for a few
>years back in 1990-91.

Yes, but then Windows 3.1 came out and actually worked fairly well for
a cooperatively-multitasking DOS shell. :-) Well enough, anyway.

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

On Jan 25, 10:31 pm, rstei...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:
> Here in comp.os.geos.misc, winpat...@hotmail.com spake unto us, saying:

> Not really. Vista is not permitted on the corporate LAN at work, and I
> don't have the authority to install it on either of my work PCs anyway.
>
I would agree since Vista is practically new from ground up and most
businesses are waiting. However, every IT shop I've worked in has a
Lab where new hardware and OS are being tested.

>
> >> 1992. I wish more products would "come up empty" like that. :-)

GEOS was remarkable for what it did at the time it was developed (late
80s, early 90s), but it was never able to go to the next level. To
graduate beyond grade school. Therefore, to assume that a more
advanced GEOS would be "Best of Breed" or a contender, compared to
other operating systems, is pure speculation.