Hi Deano,

We do not have a fix for that problem yet. You're about the fourth person I've
heard who has this problem. Any app that uses the built in Geos document
handling system experiences this problem, while simpler apps run without problems.

John Howard
Breadbox Computer Company LLC

Deano wrote:
> I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
> on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow me
> to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM 31
> error message when I try to run the Write application. Does anybody
> have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I would really
> like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the help sheet from
> BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano

John Howard wrote:
> Hi Deano,
>
> We do not have a fix for that problem yet. You're about the fourth
> person I've heard who has this problem. Any app that uses the built in
> Geos document handling system experiences this problem, while simpler
> apps run without problems.
>
> John Howard
> Breadbox Computer Company LLC
>
> Deano wrote:
>
>> I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
>> on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow
>> me to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM
>> 31 error message when I try to run the Write application. Does
>> anybody have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I
>> would really like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the
>> help sheet from BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano
>
>
Thanks for the reply, John. I kinda figured that it wouldn't work,
but I gave it a try anyhow. I REALLY miss GeoWrite. It is still the
fastest, easiest, simplest, and generally BEST writing program I have
EVER used!! MS Weird SUCKS!! Just MHO. ;-Deano (formerly GeoDeano)

Hi Deano!

You scribed:

> I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
>on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow me
>to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM 31
>error message when I try to run the Write application. Does anybody
>have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I would really
>like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the help sheet from
>BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano

I haven't been using Geos (NDO) on a Win XP machine recently but had
some weird experience with some othe native DOS apps on a Win-XP
machine with an 80 gig harddisk.

My help was to repartition the rig and to install a native DOS within
the first 1,024 HD cylinder (There's no real space problem with an 80
gig HD...)

At least, this helped. The underlying DOS in that DOS partition is
some old Caldera stuff, uh -- a DR-DOS 7.3, I guess.

The Win XP has another (starting) partition well within the 1,024 cyls
area. It runs like hell. All the stuff produced by WinXp and DOS goes
onto a third partition where it can be read/processed by each other.
The XP stuff won't be handled by DOS apps, of course, but that's not
req'd anyway.

Deano, my idea would be that you consider a re-partitioning of your
machine as well and proceed as described above. Geos/NDO will behave
absolutely faithful in a native DOS environment.

HTH,
Hans.

> I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
>>on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow me
>>to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM 31
>>error message when I try to run the Write application. Does anybody
>>have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I would really
>>like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the help sheet from
>>BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano


I have NDO 3.2a up and running on XP pro. Here is a excerpt of the
GEOS.INI file :

[system]
continueSetup = false
handles = 3900

setupMode = 2
fs = {
os2.geo
;ms4.geo
;msnet.geo
}
serialnumber = ...
drive b = 0
power = none
memory = {
emm.geo
xms.geo
extmem.geo
disk.geo
}

The \windows\system32\CONFIG.NT file contains :
dos=high,umb
device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys
files=120
ntcmdprompt

In the NDO program properties (associated to the shortcut), I have all
memory options set to automatic, full screen, ROM emulation yes, dynamic
allocation yes, don't allow screen saver, always suspend no, exclusive
mode no, compatibility all unchecked. Ah and I am the admin of my PC.

I hope this helps.

Philippe.

Hans Voges wrote:
> Hi Deano!
>
> You scribed:
>
>
>> I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
>>on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow me
>>to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM 31
>>error message when I try to run the Write application. Does anybody
>>have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I would really
>>like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the help sheet from
>>BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano
>
>
> I haven't been using Geos (NDO) on a Win XP machine recently but had
> some weird experience with some othe native DOS apps on a Win-XP
> machine with an 80 gig harddisk.
>
> My help was to repartition the rig and to install a native DOS within
> the first 1,024 HD cylinder (There's no real space problem with an 80
> gig HD...)
>
> At least, this helped. The underlying DOS in that DOS partition is
> some old Caldera stuff, uh -- a DR-DOS 7.3, I guess.
>
> The Win XP has another (starting) partition well within the 1,024 cyls
> area. It runs like hell. All the stuff produced by WinXp and DOS goes
> onto a third partition where it can be read/processed by each other.
> The XP stuff won't be handled by DOS apps, of course, but that's not
> req'd anyway.
>
> Deano, my idea would be that you consider a re-partitioning of your
> machine as well and proceed as described above. Geos/NDO will behave
> absolutely faithful in a native DOS environment.
>
> HTH,
> Hans.
Thanks for the info, Hans. I had a dual-boot/partitioned hard drive a
while back. That was pre-XP, and a REAL PITA. I can't see doing it
again as far as not being worth the effort. If I have any more
nostalgia pangs, I'll fire up my 386 laptop with the 40meg hd that STILL
has Geos on it and STILL works!! ;-Deano

Hi Deano!

You scribed:

>Thanks for the info, Hans. I had a dual-boot/partitioned hard drive a
>while back. That was pre-XP, and a REAL PITA. I can't see doing it
>again as far as not being worth the effort. If I have any more
>nostalgia pangs, I'll fire up my 386 laptop with the 40meg hd that STILL
>has Geos on it and STILL works!! ;-Deano

Reactivating of your old 386 would be, to be honest, the best idea,
Deano. Nothing would be interfering somethin else.

I did this myself, even somehow "semi-professionally": I used the
notebook while travelling, and had the 'better' desktop at my home
office for processing the whole stuff that I took up on the road. Data
transfer took place via a simple 1:1 serial cable at 115 k bps (what
we call here in Germany a "null-modem").

Ran like hell, excepted that the notebooks's CMOS battery was down and
that it was a soldered type. No way to replace it (at least not for
me, as me being a bloody greenhorn who doesn't know at which end the
soldering iron gets warm). - Now, I feed the notebook's BIOS at every
startup with all the nuts & bolts detailed stuff the BIOS needs, like
HD drive details, time, date, etc..

Everything is possible. Bob probably may comment this differently but
I don't care anything destructive.

Best Regards,

Hans.

Deano,

RE-
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I just installed an older version of New Deal Office (say GeoWorks)
on my Windows XP Machine. While the program does come up and allow me

to navigate TO various apps, it won't let me run any. I get and FM 31
error message when I try to run the Write application. Does anybody
have a fix for this, or a list of the old error fixes? I would really
like to get this to work under XP. I have downloaded the help sheet
from
BBox, but it only got me this far. Thanks. ;-Deano

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I'm not sure if it applies to XP, but whenever I was unable to get
other flavors of Windows to provide ~600k or more of conventional
memory for GEOS, I experienced similar symptoms to what you describe.
As a workaround I always found that I was able to launch an existing
document to gain access to the GEO-app desired. IE, from the DOCUMENT
display, I could click on any NewWrite/GeoWrite file to get into our
favorite word processor, or any NewCalc/GeoCalc file to get to the
spreadsheet, etc. But for whatever reason, I couldn't sucessfully
launch by clicking on the application icons in the WORLD display. Since
Write Untitled, Calc Untitled, etc always exist even if there are no
others, you should/may be able to any Geo-app you need.

Hope this works for you,

Ray Washington