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    I'm still tinkering with getting NewDeal Office (I say GEOWORKS) to
    work in XP. It does come up and open, but I get error messages when
    attempting to start any actual apps. Is there an easy workaround OTHER
    than the CPU Killer? Has anyone got GWRKS to work in XP WITHOUT the CPU
    Killer? I always found Geos to be so much more durable than Windows in
    regards to tweaking. Thanks. ;-Deano

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    Hi Deano,

    Getting GEOS to run on XP and getting GEOS to run on a fast CPU are two
    separate issues. I have NDO2000 & Breadbox Ensemble running on XP Home
    on a 1.1GHz eMachines PC without having to run CPUKiller.

    We don't have a definitave speed at which you'll need CPUKiller. That
    speed is likely dependent upon things like the brand of CPU and other
    specs besides raw clock speed.

    John ;-)

    Deano wrote:

    > I'm still tinkering with getting NewDeal Office (I say GEOWORKS) to
    > work in XP. It does come up and open, but I get error messages when
    > attempting to start any actual apps. Is there an easy workaround OTHER
    > than the CPU Killer? Has anyone got GWRKS to work in XP WITHOUT the CPU
    > Killer? I always found Geos to be so much more durable than Windows in
    > regards to tweaking. Thanks. ;-Deano



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    Hi,

    With my daughter cleaning up her room at the university (What a mess!) I was
    able
    to check out if BB Ensemble would give some problems running on XP.
    She has an Athlon 1,7 Ghz with XP Home.
    I have a copy of BB Ensemble on a USB stick. (64MB)
    I've put the shortcut on the stick also.
    When I change the compatibility to Win98 it got stuck with a KR07.
    So I undid this change.
    I only changed the ConfigNT :
    files = 120 and
    ntcmdprompt
    Adjusted the drive letter of the stick.
    It runs smoothly.
    I tried to set the video to 1024x768, no problem. 1240x1024 crashes
    Ensemble.
    Switching back to XP and to Ensemble is no problem.
    Now I have 2 shortcuts on this usb stick : 1 for XP and one for Win 98se/ME

    Edward

    "John Howard" schreef in bericht
    news:10d63netdt249c@corp.supernews.com...
    > Hi Deano,
    >
    > Getting GEOS to run on XP and getting GEOS to run on a fast CPU are two
    > separate issues. I have NDO2000 & Breadbox Ensemble running on XP Home
    > on a 1.1GHz eMachines PC without having to run CPUKiller.
    >
    > We don't have a definitave speed at which you'll need CPUKiller. That
    > speed is likely dependent upon things like the brand of CPU and other
    > specs besides raw clock speed.
    >
    > John ;-)
    >




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    Oops,

    I forgot to mention I didn't do anything to slow down the processor.


    Edward

    "Edward" schreef in bericht
    news:2jgibpF122ekrU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > Hi,
    >
    > With my daughter cleaning up her room at the university (What a mess!) I

    was
    > able
    > to check out if BB Ensemble would give some problems running on XP.
    > She has an Athlon 1,7 Ghz with XP Home.
    > I have a copy of BB Ensemble on a USB stick. (64MB)
    > I've put the shortcut on the stick also.
    > When I change the compatibility to Win98 it got stuck with a KR07.
    > So I undid this change.
    > I only changed the ConfigNT :
    > files = 120 and
    > ntcmdprompt
    > Adjusted the drive letter of the stick.
    > It runs smoothly.
    > I tried to set the video to 1024x768, no problem. 1240x1024 crashes
    > Ensemble.
    > Switching back to XP and to Ensemble is no problem.
    > Now I have 2 shortcuts on this usb stick : 1 for XP and one for Win

    98se/ME
    >
    > Edward




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    I hope you get a much needed answer to this. Sadly there must be thousands
    (hundreds? :-) ) waiting for a workable solution for running newdeal under XP
    at speed.\\\\\\\\\\

    Marco


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    Marco,

    Just to clarify... CPUKiller only needs to be running for the few
    seconds during which loader.exe is loading the GEOS kernel. After that
    everything is fine. We're working to fix the problem with loader.exe.

    John ;-)

    Marco10684 wrote:

    > I hope you get a much needed answer to this. Sadly there must be thousands
    > (hundreds? :-) ) waiting for a workable solution for running newdeal under XP
    > at speed.\\\\\\\\\\
    >
    > Marco
    >



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    John Howard wrote:
    > Hi Deano,
    >
    > Getting GEOS to run on XP and getting GEOS to run on a fast CPU are two
    > separate issues. I have NDO2000 & Breadbox Ensemble running on XP Home
    > on a 1.1GHz eMachines PC without having to run CPUKiller.
    >
    > We don't have a definitave speed at which you'll need CPUKiller. That
    > speed is likely dependent upon things like the brand of CPU and other
    > specs besides raw clock speed.
    >
    > John ;-)


    I was getting KR-09 error messages before, and I changed my
    compatibility mode back to unchecked. Now I am getting FM-31 errors when
    trying to run writer. Unfortunately, I don't have the listing for error
    messages anymore. Any suggestions?
    ;-Deano

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    Deano wrote:

    >
    > I was getting KR-09 error messages before, and I changed my
    > compatibility mode back to unchecked. Now I am getting FM-31 errors when
    > trying to run writer. Unfortunately, I don't have the listing for error
    > messages anymore. Any suggestions?
    > ;-Deano


    Can you tell us your CPU speed and the version of NDO that you're
    running on XP?

    Are you saying that you do have NDOxx running in XP but that NewWrite
    will not run? FM-31 is the missing (or un-findable) system file error
    message. I have seen this problem before and it seems to have something
    to do with running apps that deal with opening and closing their own
    documents. Do you get the same error when trying to run NewDraw and
    NewCalc? Can you play Solitaire and the other games?

    John ;-)


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    "Marco10684" wrote in message
    news:20040618122414.00536.00000297@mb-m14.aol.com...
    >I hope you get a much needed answer to this. Sadly there must be thousands
    > (hundreds? :-) ) waiting for a workable solution for running newdeal under
    > XP
    > at speed.\\\\\\\\\\
    >
    > Marco


    At best a dozen.



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    John Howard schrieb:
    >
    > Marco,
    >
    > Just to clarify... CPUKiller only needs to be running for the few
    > seconds during which loader.exe is loading the GEOS kernel. After that
    > everything is fine. We're working to fix the problem with loader.exe.


    It definitely is related to some timing loop. Maybe the code that
    evaluates the 'tony rating' of the CPU at startup (to later calculate
    the processor load).
    Might be a loop in a device driver too (busy-waiting for a device
    register showing up some reaction or such)

    Nothing else make sense

    Grossibaer

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    "Marco10684" wrote in message
    news:20040618122414.00536.00000297@mb-m14.aol.com...
    >I hope you get a much needed answer to this. Sadly there must be thousands
    > (hundreds? :-) ) waiting for a workable solution for running newdeal under
    > XP
    > at speed.\\\\\\\\\\
    >
    > Marco


    1/2 dozen. If that.



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