Read geoworks files with windows

Jens-Michael Gross wrote:
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> Dominique Vocat schrieb:
> Well, what do I do with these .torrent files?
> I found a source packed with them, but what to do next? Any idea? Do I
> need an unpacking program or what?
>
> Grossibaer[/color]

Well, not much. If you have windows and ie you can just download it and
then using the .torrent file your BitTorrent client will handle all the
download etc (unless you are behind a firewall!). If you think of
publishing something you can report the .torrent to one of the trackers
(website with list of .torrent files) it is similar to ed2k links etc as
it essentially contains hashes for files and BitTorrent is just a
protocol like ftp or http but meant for distributet and load balanced
downloading.

Use google to get the big picture. I kind of suspect that the handling
is not *that* dificult and could also be implemented in GEOS :-).

It is important to understand that although it is remarkably similar to
kazaa or emule it is not intended for distribution of illegal copies.
RedHat for instance provides it's Version 9 via .torrent because that
way it doesn't cost them a nickle to distribute it whereas they pay for
their ftp downloaders. Plus there is no 1-week wait qeue as there is for
ftp downloads :-).

Dom
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 09:16:29 GMT, Hans Lindgren
<nospamhans.lindgren@abc.se> wrote:

=== SNIP ===
[color=blue]
>QEMM (stealthmode off)[/color]

....AND with stealtmode on (ST:M). I use this line on my IBM Thinkpad
365 (with MS-DOS 6.22 and QEMM 7.04)

C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS ST:M RAM ARAM=C000-C3FF FR=C400 R:1

I am sure I have also used ST:F, maybe it was on my IBM PS/2 P70 - I
can check it out if anyone is interested.


/Thomas

Hi Doug,

Well, installing FreeDOS and Ensemble is not easy, I will give you my
experiences below and hopefully from that you can make your own
FreeDOS/Ensemble combo. I have an idea of making a FreeDOS bootdisk from
which you can set up a system from scratch, for the moment that does not
seems possible. If you have any comments or corrections, please post it
here!

First I downloaded the latest version on FreeDOS, which was Beta9,
prerelease 5 and created a bootdisk. Then I booted my PC with that
bootdisk, and tried to create a partition, which failed, as the Fdisk
tool from FreeDOS did not recognize my disk. Used Windows 98 SE Fdisk to
partitioning the disk with a FAT32 partition and it went well. Formatted
the disk with FreeDOS Format, which recognized the FAT32 format and
added the system files with the /S -switch. Rebooted the system, but it
did not appear stable. Removed the partition and created a new FAT 16
partition with my PCDOS 7 and formatted with PCDOS 7s Format. Booted
the FreeDOS system and added the system to the hard disk with the SYS
command on the diskette. Now the system appeared stable.

Configured the system and added the drivers for CD-ROM from the disk.
Tried to install BBX Ensemble 4.01, but no go. Ran into new problems.
After investigations, it appeared to be several problems at the same
time. First, the CD-ROM support in FreeDOS does not seems to be stable,
ATAPICDD.SYS and SHSUCDX.EXE. Going back to my old Mitsumi driver solved
that problem, and then secondly it seems that Sun2000 have made an
installation script that smells MS-Windows to me? It asks for the
COMSPEC parameters in the form of %COMSPEC% and I get out of memory
errors, dos critical error, script errors, when I tried to install.
Tried my NDO2000beta and it did install without any problem, and so did
also my NDO2000 diskette copy.
Solved this problem, by making an Ensemble installation on my Windows
computer and burned it to a CD-ROM, and then copied into my FreeDOS
computer. Then I added DOS ODI network support and configured BBX
Ensemble for TCP/IP networkning. Now it is up and running!

Next I will present my config.sys and autoexec.bat in FreeDOS, to gether
with the necessary changes to GEOS.INI

config.sys:
FILES=120
BUFFERS=20
LASTDRIVE=Z
SWITCHES=/F /N
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\UMBPCI.SYS
SHELLHIGH=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024 /F /MSG /K C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVER\MTMCDAI.SYS /D:CD01

autoexec.bat:
@ECHO OFF
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
PATH=C:\;C:\FREEDOS;C:\DRIVER;C:\ENSEMBLE
C:\DRIVER\CTMOUSE
LH C:\DRIVER\LSL
LH C:\DRIVER\DM9PCI
LH C:\DRIVER\SHSUCDX /D:CD01
C:\ENSEMBLE\ENSEMBLE.BAT

Necessary changes to GEOS.INI:
[system]
fs = ntfat.geo
PrimaryFSD = ntfat.geo

The EMM386.EXE in FreeDOS is not compatible with ENSEMBLE/GEOS, as a
substitute I use the UMBPCI from: [url]http://www.uwe-sieber.de[/url]. This is not
a EMS driver, it is more of a UMB-loader which loads drivers inte upper
memory blocks, but still very useful in this configuration.

BR,
Hans

On 2004-05-21 15:45, Douglas A. Taylor wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <10aii4cfjde612d@corp.supernews.com>,
>John Howard <johnh@breadbox.com> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Hans has come through nicely for us!!!
>>
>>With some help from Hans I now have a FreeDOS boot floppy and can run
>>Ensemble on it. And it runs faster than when running on Win98! For
>>example, I timed the loading of the GeoCosmos sky view in Ensemble under
>>W98 and FreeDOS on my old P266 laptop...
>> Ensemble on Win98 - 25 seconds
>> Ensemble on FreeDOS - 12 seconds
>>
>>[/color]
>
>Sooo . . . what's your config.sys and autoexec.bat look like?
>
>Doug
>
>[/color]

Hans Lindgren wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi John,
>
> You are welcome! Did you manage to get the EMS-driver to function, or
> did you listen to my advice and skipped it? Maybe it can be used with
> the NOEMS switch?[/color]

I have not gotten it to work with the EMS driver. At all. so I left it
out and Ensemble runs fine :-)

John ;-)

[color=blue]
>
> Dom hinted me about using the UMBPCI, which is at least something, and
> here is the link to it: [url]http://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html[/url]
>
> Well, this does not fully compensates as Ensemble can use some EMS
> memory to add to the existing base
> memory............arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> BTW, is there anybody in this group who can take a look at the source in
> the FreeDOS EMM386.EXE to see what is wrong? I have contacted the
> author, Tom Ehler, but he claims it is an error in Ensemble, and
> encouraged me to contact Breadbox, but I doubt that the error is in
> Ensemble, as Ensemble works with every EMS manager I have tested except
> the FreeDOS one.
>
> The error shows like this: when the EMS-driver is loaded in the
> CONFIG.SYS, Ensemble loads and the destop shows, but it does not take
> any keyboard or mouse input, it have hung or freezed or stopped.
>
> Ensemble works with
> PC DOS EMM386.EXE
> MS DOS EMM386.EXE
> DR DOS EMM386.EXE (includes OpenDOS etc)
> ROMDOS EMM386.EXE
> QEMM (stealthmode off)
> 386 MAX
>
> Ensemble do NOT work with:
> FreeDOS EMM386.EXE
>
> BR,
> Hans
>
>
> On 2004-05-18 01:19, John Howard wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Hans has come through nicely for us!!!
>>
>>With some help from Hans I now have a FreeDOS boot floppy and can run
>>Ensemble on it. And it runs faster than when running on Win98! For
>>example, I timed the loading of the GeoCosmos sky view in Ensemble under
>>W98 and FreeDOS on my old P266 laptop...
>> Ensemble on Win98 - 25 seconds
>> Ensemble on FreeDOS - 12 seconds
>>
>>Thanks Hans!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>John ;-)
>>
>>
>>John Howard wrote:
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hi Hans,
>>>
>>>Any info you can give as to the setup, configuration and version of
>>>FreeDOS would be very much appreciated. I've tried about once every six
>>>months or so (with the latest FD versions) and my problems have been
>>>with the FreeDOS versions of EMM386 and himem (or their equivalents). On
>>>some of my earlier trials I had problems with the FreeDOS versions of
>>>mscdex and getting them to work with a generic CD-ROM driver, but I
>>>think I got that one resolved.
>>>
>>>Of course Ensemble doesn't need the whole range of FreeDOS stuff, so
>>>just enough to get Ensemble running and able to access the drives would
>>>be very nice.
>>>
>>>John ;-)
>>>
>>>Hans Lindgren wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have run Ensemble on FreeDOS, and with the right config it runs very
>>>>well........you need to use the NTFAT file system dirver if I recall
>>>>correctly and config it as it is running under Windows NT,
>>>>
>>>>BR,
>>>>Hans
>>>>
>>>>John Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have not yet been able to run Ensemble on FreeDOS :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>John ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Dominique Vocat wrote:
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW. does it now run on freedos?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Hi John!

Try UMBPCI from here, instead: [url]http://www.uwe-sieber.de[/url]

Follow the installtion instructions. This is useful when having a CD-ROM
in the system, as you can load the drivers into umb.

BR,
Hans

On 2004-05-23 19:39, John Howard wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hans Lindgren wrote:
>
>
>[color=green]
>>Hi John,
>>
>>You are welcome! Did you manage to get the EMS-driver to function, or
>>did you listen to my advice and skipped it? Maybe it can be used with
>>the NOEMS switch?
>>
>>[/color]
>
>I have not gotten it to work with the EMS driver. At all. so I left it
>out and Ensemble runs fine :-)
>
>John ;-)
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>>Dom hinted me about using the UMBPCI, which is at least something, and
>>here is the link to it: [url]http://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html[/url]
>>
>>Well, this does not fully compensates as Ensemble can use some EMS
>>memory to add to the existing base
>>memory............arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh
>>
>>BTW, is there anybody in this group who can take a look at the source in
>>the FreeDOS EMM386.EXE to see what is wrong? I have contacted the
>>author, Tom Ehler, but he claims it is an error in Ensemble, and
>>encouraged me to contact Breadbox, but I doubt that the error is in
>>Ensemble, as Ensemble works with every EMS manager I have tested except
>>the FreeDOS one.
>>
>>The error shows like this: when the EMS-driver is loaded in the
>>CONFIG.SYS, Ensemble loads and the destop shows, but it does not take
>>any keyboard or mouse input, it have hung or freezed or stopped.
>>
>>Ensemble works with
>>PC DOS EMM386.EXE
>>MS DOS EMM386.EXE
>>DR DOS EMM386.EXE (includes OpenDOS etc)
>>ROMDOS EMM386.EXE
>>QEMM (stealthmode off)
>>386 MAX
>>
>>Ensemble do NOT work with:
>>FreeDOS EMM386.EXE
>>
>>BR,
>>Hans
>>
>>
>>On 2004-05-18 01:19, John Howard wrote:
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hans has come through nicely for us!!!
>>>
>>>With some help from Hans I now have a FreeDOS boot floppy and can run
>>>Ensemble on it. And it runs faster than when running on Win98! For
>>>example, I timed the loading of the GeoCosmos sky view in Ensemble under
>>>W98 and FreeDOS on my old P266 laptop...
>>> Ensemble on Win98 - 25 seconds
>>> Ensemble on FreeDOS - 12 seconds
>>>
>>>Thanks Hans!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>John ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>John Howard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>>Any info you can give as to the setup, configuration and version of
>>>>FreeDOS would be very much appreciated. I've tried about once every six
>>>>months or so (with the latest FD versions) and my problems have been
>>>>with the FreeDOS versions of EMM386 and himem (or their equivalents). On
>>>>some of my earlier trials I had problems with the FreeDOS versions of
>>>>mscdex and getting them to work with a generic CD-ROM driver, but I
>>>>think I got that one resolved.
>>>>
>>>>Of course Ensemble doesn't need the whole range of FreeDOS stuff, so
>>>>just enough to get Ensemble running and able to access the drives would
>>>>be very nice.
>>>>
>>>>John ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Hans Lindgren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have run Ensemble on FreeDOS, and with the right config it runs very
>>>>>well........you need to use the NTFAT file system dirver if I recall
>>>>>correctly and config it as it is running under Windows NT,
>>>>>
>>>>>BR,
>>>>>Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>John Howard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have not yet been able to run Ensemble on FreeDOS :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dominique Vocat wrote:
>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW. does it now run on freedos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

On Sat, 22 May 2004 13:42:49 +0200, Thomas L. Christensen
<remove.tlc@fabel.dk> wrote:

[color=blue]
>I am sure I have also used ST:F, maybe it was on my IBM PS/2 P70 - I
>can check it out if anyone is interested.
>[/color]

Yes, ST:F works. I have just set up an old IBM 330 P100 with MS-DOS
and QEMM. In fact, ST:M didn't work unless 4 mem areas was excluded
(from Fxxx and up). ST:F works perfect. I have 634 KB conventional and
33 after loading network drivers, and Breadbox Ensemble runs smoth.

I have also been playing with FreeDos. So far I have not been able to
use QEMM with it - a shame, course it could have been a way to use the
EMS.


/Thomas