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  1. NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permission pop-ups?


    When I open an application that accesses the Internet, it gains access
    but I get no pop-up asking for my permission.

    The firewall setting is High and both of these settings are enabled:

    Intelligent Application Manager (IAM)
    Informational dialog box

    Any leads/hints?

    Thank you.









  2. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permissionpop-ups?

    John Doe wrote:

    > When I open an application that accesses the Internet, it gains access
    > but I get no pop-up asking for my permission.



    Why should you?

    > The firewall setting is High and both of these settings are enabled:
    >
    > Intelligent Application Manager (IAM)
    > Informational dialog box
    >
    > Any leads/hints?



    Specify your problem clearly. It seems like everything works as expected.

  3. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permission pop-ups?

    "Sebastian G." wrote:

    > John Doe wrote:
    >
    >> When I open an application that accesses the Internet, it gains access
    >> but I get no pop-up asking for my permission.

    >
    >
    > Why should you?


    RTFM










    >
    >> The firewall setting is High and both of these settings are enabled:
    >>
    >> Intelligent Application Manager (IAM)
    >> Informational dialog box
    >>
    >> Any leads/hints?

    >
    >
    > Specify your problem clearly. It seems like everything works as expected.
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  4. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permissionpop-ups?

    John Doe wrote:

    > "Sebastian G." wrote:
    >
    >> John Doe wrote:
    >>
    >>> When I open an application that accesses the Internet, it gains access
    >>> but I get no pop-up asking for my permission.

    >>
    >> Why should you?

    >
    > RTFM



    I did RTFM. If an application decides that it doesn't need to pull such a
    pop-up window, it simply bypasses it or clicks it away for you. And since
    because of this such popups are useless, any reasonable user has disabled
    this stupid functionality anyway.

    So, why do you expect any popups if, presumably, you have disabled this
    functionality and/or the applications decide to ignore the popup generator?



    BTW: Your newsreader seems to go mad.

  5. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permission pop-ups?

    "Sebastian G." wrote:

    > John Doe wrote:
    >
    >> "Sebastian G." wrote:
    >>
    >>> John Doe wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When I open an application that accesses the Internet, it gains
    >>>> access but I get no pop-up asking for my permission.
    >>>
    >>> Why should you?

    >>
    >> RTFM

    >
    >
    > I did RTFM.


    Obviously you haven't.

    > If an application decides that it doesn't need to pull such a pop-up
    > window, it simply bypasses it or clicks it away for you.


    That's not what the manual says, it's been fixed, and that doesn't
    happen.

    > And since because of this such popups are useless, any reasonable
    > user has disabled this stupid functionality anyway.


    So your answer is "I don't like what you're trying to do so I'm going
    to spew nonsense in reply".

    > So, why do you expect any popups if, presumably, you have disabled
    > this functionality and/or the applications decide to ignore the
    > popup generator?


    Sounds like you're offended by your own cluelessness.

    > BTW: Your newsreader seems to go mad.


    That's totally obscure, from someone who wants others to specify
    clearly.

    Sounds like a personal problem on your end.







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  6. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permissionpop-ups?

    John Doe wrote:


    >> I did RTFM.

    >
    > Obviously you haven't.



    I did. But I found nothing relevant. Or sane.

    >> If an application decides that it doesn't need to pull such a pop-up
    >> window, it simply bypasses it or clicks it away for you.

    >
    > That's not what the manual says,



    Indeed, that's a trivial fact that the manual and the creator of this
    functionality totally ignores. The manual only describes the functionality,
    not how useless it is.

    > it's been fixed, and that doesn't happen.



    There is nothing to fix, and it happens. Trivially.


    >> And since because of this such popups are useless, any reasonable
    >> user has disabled this stupid functionality anyway.

    >
    > So your answer is "I don't like what you're trying to do so I'm going
    > to spew nonsense in reply".



    No. I'm telling you that this functionality is useless. Trivially. I don't
    care what impression of it might be or what impress it creates.

    >> So, why do you expect any popups if, presumably, you have disabled
    >> this functionality and/or the applications decide to ignore the
    >> popup generator?

    >
    > Sounds like you're offended by your own cluelessness.



    No. I'm telling you that your expectation is unjustified.

    Again: If an application doesn't want to generate such a popup, it will work
    around it and no popup will be generated. Thus, how can you expect any such?

    >> BTW: Your newsreader seems to go mad.

    >
    > That's totally obscure, from someone who wants others to specify
    > clearly.



    Look at your posting: A lot of empty lines at the end, and then you're
    quoting the entire header of the reply. Looks very broken, and this is not
    typical for XNews.

  7. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permission pop-ups?

    "Sebastian G." wrote:

    > John Doe wrote:


    >> Obviously you haven't [read the manual].

    >
    >
    > I did.


    So it got lost between your ears.

    > But I found nothing relevant.


    The HTML reference work includes context-sensitive help. All you have
    to do is navigate to (Firewall -- Advanced Configuration --
    Navigation) and click on the help link in the top right of the page.

    > Or sane.


    Like nothing in your head.
    Even though I'm sure you will continue acting confused, this text is
    from the manual:

    ActiveArmor Firewall Intelligent Application Manager (IAM)
    Configuration To access the ActiveArmor Firewall IAM Configuration
    page, from the ForceWare Network Access Manager menu, click Firewall >
    Advanced Configuration > Application.

    You can use this configuration page to create firewall rules based on
    the name of an application.

    When any application attempts to open a new network connection as a
    client or as a server, you are prompted to Allow or Deny the
    application's access to the network interface. When you allow or deny
    an application through the popup dialog box that appears as your
    application attempts to access an outside network, an
    application-based firewall rule is created or modified in the
    Application Table.









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  8. Re: NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager, no application permissionpop-ups?

    John Doe wrote:


    > When any application attempts to open a new network connection as a
    > client or as a server, you are prompted to Allow or Deny the
    > application's access to the network interface.



    And why exactly should any application attempt to open a new network
    connection as a client or as a server? Why not simply attempting to open a
    network connection using the Raw Sockets API? Or its own NDIS driver? What
    about WinPCap? What about the application remote-controlling another
    application that you already added to the list?

    You're totally ignoring that there's absolutely no way this functionality
    could be effective. Thus you shouldn't expect it to behave such.

    (Beside that: Why do you even care? Disable this functionality and your
    problem is solved. That's no need to bother getting a furtile and annoying
    functionality working.)

    (BTW: Your newsreader is still broken.)

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