Re: [fw-wiz] How automate firewall tests
At 02:14 PM 22/08/2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
>On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 01:28:13PM -0400, Chris Blask wrote:
>> o "You don't know what you don't know."[/color]
>Which leads directly to Marcus' well known rant about positive
Indeed. Problem is, I don't believe in positive security models in the real world (with the theoretical exceptions of some military or SCADA networks that actually don't connect to the PSTN [still waiting to see one]). If we start now we can build a ground-up secure network just in time for it to be completely obsolete and we all retire in frustration..
>> You cannot make even any *one* Thing in security "perfect"[/color]
>You can. You can code an HTTP server that does nothing but
>serve static documents in (my guess) less than 1000 lines of
>C and you can prove a program of this size to be correct.[/color]
We can split hairs on this, but if you load your perfect web server code on an operating system, then the integrity of the application evaporates.
>Customers tend to favour "off the shelf solutions", though.[/color]
Customers tend to favor building networks out of components as opposed to mining the iron ore, shaving crystals of silica into wafers and carving transistors with razor blades.
I tend to favor buying cars with the wave-front topology of the combustion chamber already engineered to my satisfaction.
Practical solutions apply beyond the purists' and hobbiests' worlds
>IIRC this once led to another one of Marcus' rants ;-)[/color]
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