ok .ok. ok (I was about to say something else, but I think think I
figured out where I was wrong in my previous post). Instead of saying
"lame servers are sorta like the mail that you receive at your new
home that are addressed to the previous home owner" would it be
correct to say "lame servers are like the junk-mailers that have the
wrong name on file for who lives at your new house (after all, it's
the mailer that has the name on file, not the post office)?" From the
perspective of Carlos and HIS server, someone out there thinks that
his server has authority - but isn't - and since he doesn't, and it's
someone else's misconfiguration, he can just ignore it (or send the
logs to null). Or is this BACKWARDS? I've thought that a line in the
log like what the OP was concerned about meant that MY server was
asked directions, but are you saying that my server is the one doing
the asking (and then so noting the lame server)?
Mike

On Jul 2, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:

>
>> "lame servers" are sorta like the mail that you receive at your new
>> home that are addressed to the previous home owner. Someone somewhere
>> out there thinks that your address is the best way to get ahold of
>> that person. When in reality, you have no way to do such a thing. And
>> in this case, some computer (theirs specifically, or one in between
>> you and them) is asking yours for directions. Your computer is
>> logging
>> that, "Hey, someone lame (pun intended) just asked me about 1.2.3.4
>> thinking I was in charge of it. I just thought you'd like to know"
>>
>> Mike

>
> Absolutely WRONG. It's not about your servers.
>
> Lame servers are servers that have been delegated a zone
> but are not serving it. If you want you can check the
> servers to see if they are still lame and contact the remote
> server operator to fix this. If that request fails you can
> contact the parent zone operator and request that the
> delegation be pulled. Often remote operators are not aware
> that a server is lame.
>
> If you don't feel like trying to get the situation fixed then
> you at least have some information about why your remote lookups
> are failing.
>
> If you don't care about either fixing or why then you can just
> stop logging the messages.
>
> Mark
>
>> "Warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be
>> patient with everyone." - Paul - (1 Thessalonians 5:14)
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Carlos Alberto Bernat Orozco wrote:
>>
>>> Hi group
>>>
>>> Thanks for the fast answer.
>>>
>>> Yes, I put those lines and stop logging lame-servers.
>>>
>>> But I have another question. Is this process decreasing
>>> performance on
>>> my server? yes I stopped the logging but is totally necesary the
>>> lame
>>> servers?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/7/2 Jeff Reasoner :
>>>> Not an issue you can fix directly. Those domains are delegated to
>>>> hosts
>>>> that are not properly configured nameservers, and named is logging
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> You could prevent them from being logged in bind 9.x.x with a
>>>> logging
>>>> statement in named.conf:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> logging {
>>>>
>>>> channel null { null; };
>>>>
>>>> category lame-servers { null; };
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> See the BIND ARM for all the gory logging details.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:42 -0500, Carlos Alberto Bernat Orozco
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi group
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for my question question. I'm newbie.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my logs I see a lot of this messages
>>>>>
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'adon.co.kr' (in
>>>>> 'adon.co.kr'?):
>>>>> 211.234.93.201#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'core-distributions.com' (in
>>>>> 'core-distributions.com'?): 80.85.91.14#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'core-distributions.com' (in
>>>>> 'core-distributions.com'?): 80.85.91.15#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving
>>>>> 'eslcontractorshardware.com' (in
>>>>> 'eslcontractorshardware.com'?): 75.127.110.43#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving
>>>>> 'eslcontractorshardware.com' (in
>>>>> 'eslcontractorshardware.com'?): 75.127.110.2#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'web-display.com' (in
>>>>> 'web-display.com'?): 67.15.81.33#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'web-display.com' (in
>>>>> 'web-display.com'?): 67.15.80.3#53
>>>>> named[3028]: lame server resolving 'core-distributions.com' (in
>>>>> 'core-distributions.com'?): 80.85.91.15#53
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an issue? can I block it? how can I block it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advanced
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Reasoner
>>>> HCCA
>>>> 513 728-7902 voice
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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