Correct using of Image position tag (0020,0032) - DICOM

This is a discussion on Correct using of Image position tag (0020,0032) - DICOM ; Hi all, I have a question about image position (0020,0032): I have to import Dicom Data set of CT image (MEDIA STORAGE SOP CLASS UID 1.2.840.10008.5.1.4.1.1.2) and I need to know the step between the axials to a correct reconstruction ...

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1. Correct using of Image position tag (0020,0032)

Hi all,
I have a question about image position (0020,0032):
I have to import Dicom Data set of CT image (MEDIA STORAGE SOP
CLASS UID 1.2.840.10008.5.1.4.1.1.2) and I need to know the step
between the axials to a correct reconstruction of the volume. I think
I can't use the tag 0018,0050 Slice thickness because is a 2 value
field and i suppose not all Dicom images can have this value, so I
have to use image position (0020,0032) tag. But which is the way to
undestand and use that values?

For example I can have a series of CT axial with this value:

0.0/0.0/0.0
0.0/0.0/0.5
0.0/0.0/1.0
0.0/0.0/1.5
Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is 1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.0/0.0

or a series of CT axial with this value:

73.949997/0.0/-110.28971
73.949997/0.0/-109.88914
73.949997/0.0/-110.48856
73.949997/0.0/-110.08798

Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is 1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.0/0.0

or a series of CT axial with this value:

66.699997/47.013481/-163.11487
66.699997/47.760445/-162.80463
66.699997/47.507408/-162.49438

Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is
1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.774564/0.632496

Is there a relationship between Patient position and Image position to
retrieve the value of the step?

I hope someone can help me....

Vasmvr

2. How to compute reconstruction interval, was Re: Correct using ofImage position tag (0020,0032)

Hi

You need to compute the distance along a line that passes through
the parallel slices perpendicularly.

Given two slices, compute the distance from the origin (0,0,0) of
the top left hand corner of each along the normal to the slice
orientation, and subtract one distance from the other to give the
distance between the center plane of each slice, i.e., the
reconstruction interval.

For each slice, the normal to the slice orientation is the cross
product of the row and column unit vectors (first three and second
three values of Image Orientation (Patient), respectively).

For each slice, the distance from the origin (0,0,0) of the top
left hand corner is the dot product of the Image Position (Patient)
(i.e., a vector from the origin to the top left hand corner of the
image) and the normal to the slice orientation (i.e., the dot
product is the magnitude of the origin to the top left hand corner
vector component along the direction of the normal).

For multiple slices, you may want to first sort them by distance
from the origin along the normal in case they are not already in
ascending order, and you may want to check that the reconstruction
interval is the same between successive sorted slices (i.e., they
are evenly spaced), and you may want to check that they are all
parallel (i.e., that they have the same values for Image Orientation
(Patient)).

For examples of how to do this and similar related things, see:

com.pixelmed.geometry.GeometryOfSlice
com.pixelmed.geometry.GeometryOfVolume
com.pixelmed.dicom.GeometryOfSliceFromAttributeLis t
com.pixelmed.dicom.GeometryOfVolumeFromAttributeLi st

David

vasmvr@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a question about image position (0020,0032):
> I have to import Dicom Data set of CT image (MEDIA STORAGE SOP
> CLASS UID 1.2.840.10008.5.1.4.1.1.2) and I need to know the step
> between the axials to a correct reconstruction of the volume. I think
> I can't use the tag 0018,0050 Slice thickness because is a 2 value
> field and i suppose not all Dicom images can have this value, so I
> have to use image position (0020,0032) tag. But which is the way to
> undestand and use that values?
>
> For example I can have a series of CT axial with this value:
>
> 0.0/0.0/0.0
> 0.0/0.0/0.5
> 0.0/0.0/1.0
> 0.0/0.0/1.5
> Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is 1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.0/0.0
>
> or a series of CT axial with this value:
>
> 73.949997/0.0/-110.28971
> 73.949997/0.0/-109.88914
> 73.949997/0.0/-110.48856
> 73.949997/0.0/-110.08798
>
> Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is 1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.0/0.0
>
> or a series of CT axial with this value:
>
> 66.699997/47.013481/-163.11487
> 66.699997/47.760445/-162.80463
> 66.699997/47.507408/-162.49438
>
> Patient position (0020,0037) for all images is
> 1.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.774564/0.632496
>
> Is there a relationship between Patient position and Image position to
> retrieve the value of the step?
>
> I hope someone can help me....
>