On Sep 15, 1:13 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on its
> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change the
> setting in the ECU.
>
> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to use
> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU. I
> suspect the F10 refers to the "native" keyboard. I can't use the native
> keyboard because I can't get a display on the monitor I am using (it just
> displays a solid colour, the monitor is a VRT17 and works on my VAXstation
> 4000 VLCs, so I don't think the monitor is faulty).
>
> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>
> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>
> Can anyone help on either of these routes?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob


Shot in the dark. The brain-dead ORCA ROM based RAID configurator for
various Compaq/HP controllers requires hitting F8 and F3 to do things;
the P400 RAID on an itanic does also. On the SmartArrays you can hit
ESC-8 and ESC-3 to emulate that from a serial console. Perhaps
there's an 'escape' sequence that will work for your F10?

"Rich Jordan" wrote in message
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> On Sep 15, 1:13 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
>> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on
>> its
>> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
>> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change
>> the
>> setting in the ECU.
>>
>> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to use
>> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
>> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU.
>> I
>> suspect the F10 refers to the "native" keyboard. I can't use the native
>> keyboard because I can't get a display on the monitor I am using (it just
>> displays a solid colour, the monitor is a VRT17 and works on my
>> VAXstation
>> 4000 VLCs, so I don't think the monitor is faulty).
>>
>> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>>
>> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
>> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>>
>> Can anyone help on either of these routes?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> Shot in the dark. The brain-dead ORCA ROM based RAID configurator for
> various Compaq/HP controllers requires hitting F8 and F3 to do things;
> the P400 RAID on an itanic does also. On the SmartArrays you can hit
> ESC-8 and ESC-3 to emulate that from a serial console. Perhaps
> there's an 'escape' sequence that will work for your F10?
>
>

Hmm... there is no "10" key, I'll try ESC-0 to see what happens.

"Robert Jarratt" wrote in message
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>
> "Rich Jordan" wrote in message
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>> On Sep 15, 1:13 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
>>> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on
>>> its
>>> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
>>> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change
>>> the
>>> setting in the ECU.
>>>
>>> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to
>>> use
>>> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
>>> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU.
>>> I
>>> suspect the F10 refers to the "native" keyboard. I can't use the native
>>> keyboard because I can't get a display on the monitor I am using (it
>>> just
>>> displays a solid colour, the monitor is a VRT17 and works on my
>>> VAXstation
>>> 4000 VLCs, so I don't think the monitor is faulty).
>>>
>>> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>>>
>>> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
>>> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help on either of these routes?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>> Shot in the dark. The brain-dead ORCA ROM based RAID configurator for
>> various Compaq/HP controllers requires hitting F8 and F3 to do things;
>> the P400 RAID on an itanic does also. On the SmartArrays you can hit
>> ESC-8 and ESC-3 to emulate that from a serial console. Perhaps
>> there's an 'escape' sequence that will work for your F10?
>>
>>
>
> Hmm... there is no "10" key, I'll try ESC-0 to see what happens.
>

Using ESC did not work for any of the F keys. Surely there
had to be a way to do this?

On Sep 17, 1:08 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
> "Robert Jarratt" wrote in message
>
> news:kYyHi.37290$mZ5.17095@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Rich Jordan" wrote in message
> >news:1190050106.613068.128280@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> >> On Sep 15, 1:13 pm, "Robert Jarratt" wrote:
> >>> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on
> >>> its
> >>> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
> >>> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change
> >>> the
> >>> setting in the ECU.
>
> >>> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to
> >>> use
> >>> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
> >>> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU.
> >>> I
> >>> suspect the F10 refers to the "native" keyboard. I can't use the native
> >>> keyboard because I can't get a display on the monitor I am using (it
> >>> just
> >>> displays a solid colour, the monitor is a VRT17 and works on my
> >>> VAXstation
> >>> 4000 VLCs, so I don't think the monitor is faulty).
>
> >>> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>
> >>> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
> >>> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>
> >>> Can anyone help on either of these routes?
>
> >>> Thanks
>
> >>> Rob
>
> >> Shot in the dark. The brain-dead ORCA ROM based RAID configurator for
> >> various Compaq/HP controllers requires hitting F8 and F3 to do things;
> >> the P400 RAID on an itanic does also. On the SmartArrays you can hit
> >> ESC-8 and ESC-3 to emulate that from a serial console. Perhaps
> >> there's an 'escape' sequence that will work for your F10?
>
> > Hmm... there is no "10" key, I'll try ESC-0 to see what happens.
>
> Using ESC did not work for any of the F keys. Surely there
> had to be a way to do this?


I don't have any VTs online right now. Did the VT420 have any setup
options to be used as a "PC Terminal"? I think the VT510's did.
Perhaps there's a setting in terminal setup that would allow you to
change the keyboard type or keysends.

I also don't have anything that would use ECU anymore, sorry.

Hyperterm is not a "real" VT emulator; its actually pretty crappy at
anything beyond base ANSI compatibility. Any other options?
Powerterm? Got an old PAthworks client distribution around that has
PowerTerm 525?

Robert Jarratt wrote:
> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on its
> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change the
> setting in the ECU.
>
> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to use
> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU.
[...]
> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>
> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>
> Can anyone help on either of these routes?

No idea whether it works with ECU, too, but the AlphaServer 4100 manual [1]
has a table with mappings when using AlphaBIOS with a serial terminal;
there, F10 is mapped to Ctrl/U.

HTH,
Martin

[1] http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/A...cs/4100_ug.pdf
Section 7.2 "Running Utilities from a Serial Terminal"
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"Martin Vorlaender" wrote in message
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> Robert Jarratt wrote:
>> I have a DEC 2000 Model 3000 AXP which is defaulted to use thinwire on
>> its
>> DE422. I need to change it to twisted pair. I have switched the shunting
>> plug on the board to the twisted pair position and now I need to change
>> the
>> setting in the ECU.
>>
>> To complete the ECU setup I need to press F10. However I am having to use
>> the console, I have both a terminal emulator (HyperTerminal) and a real
>> VT420 and pressing F10 in either of these is not registering in the ECU.
> [...]
>> I think I could resolve this in one of two ways:
>>
>> 1. Get the native keyboard and monitor to work.
>> 2. Find out how to press F10 on the console.
>>
>> Can anyone help on either of these routes?
>
> No idea whether it works with ECU, too, but the AlphaServer 4100 manual
> [1]
> has a table with mappings when using AlphaBIOS with a serial terminal;
> there, F10 is mapped to Ctrl/U.
>
> HTH,
> Martin
>
> [1]
> http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/A...cs/4100_ug.pdf
> Section 7.2 "Running Utilities from a Serial Terminal"
> --
> One OS to rule them all | Martin Vorlaender | OpenVMS rules!
> One OS to find them | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de
> One OS to bring them all | http://vms.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin.vorlaender@t-online.de

CTRL/U did not work for me, but I experimented and found that CTRL/E seemed
to do the trick for me.

Thanks

Rob