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  1. DECservers alive and well

    I just want everone to know that the DECserver is alive and well.
    Currently we just release V3.5.

    Any question using or configuring a DECserver, I will try to answer
    here.

    Thanks, Jon


  2. Re: DECservers alive and well

    In article <1174505750.360949.225930@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>, "jons" writes:
    >I just want everone to know that the DECserver is alive and well.
    >Currently we just release V3.5.


    What DECserver? My DECserver 90M perhaps?
    Does it mean I might get a SSH client with 3.5?

    >Any question using or configuring a DECserver, I will try to answer
    >here.


    Where to get the S/W and is it free (for hobbyists)?

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  3. Re: DECservers alive and well

    In article <460230fa$1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) writes:
    >Does it mean I might get a SSH client with 3.5?


    Ooops. I forgot the SSH server.
    I need it as well (for accessing the remote console, or a serial port)...

    TIA

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  4. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 22, 2:32 am, p...@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
    wrote:
    > In article <1174505750.360949.225...@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>, "jons" writes:
    > >I just want everone to know that the DECserver is alive and well.
    > >Currently we just release V3.5.

    >
    > What DECserver? My DECserver 90M perhaps?
    > Does it mean I might get a SSH client with 3.5?


    No the DECserver is not able to support an SSH client (I wish it
    could)
    >
    > >Any question using or configuring a DECserver, I will try to answer
    > >here.

    >
    > Where to get the S/W and is it free (for hobbyists)?


    The software is available for Digital Networks but it looks like you
    need the MNENG3 image and that is no longer supported.

    Does your unit have flash internally? or you don't know because you
    can not boot it?

    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail p...@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist


    Thanks, Jon


  5. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 22, 12:23 pm, "Malcolm Dunnett"
    wrote:
    > "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER" wrote in messagenews:460230fa$1@news.langstoeger.at...
    >
    > > In article <1174505750.360949.225...@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>, "jons"
    > > writes:
    > >>I just want everone to know that the DECserver is alive and well.
    > >>Currently we just release V3.5.

    >
    > > What DECserver? My DECserver 90M perhaps?

    >
    > I would think so for a device as modern as the DECServer 90!!!
    >
    > Now as to the DECServer 200s I'm still running, I'm a bit more
    > skeptical.
    > It's a bit of a stretch to ask for SSH on them when they don't even
    > understand TCP/IP.
    >
    > ;-)


    Your correct. The DS200 did not support IP, so it will not support
    SSH.

    --JOn



  6. Re: DECservers alive and well

    In article <1174917699.588919.224490@l75g2000hse.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    >No the DECserver is not able to support an SSH client (I wish it could)


    Then why do you call it "alive"? I can't think of any professional device
    which still has no encrypted communication (like SSH, AES, SSL, ...) builtin.

    >The software is available for Digital Networks but it looks like you
    >need the MNENG3 image and that is no longer supported.


    Sigh. The DECserver 90M is definitely a hobbyist goodie. And now it
    isn't supported even there (and yes, it uses the MNENG2 and MNENG3 image)
    What is then the current supported DECserver which is "alive"?

    And then one wonders, why LANTRONIX is now the leader (at least in my eyes)...

    >Does your unit have flash internally? or you don't know because you
    >can not boot it?


    The DECserver90M is equipped with 0/1/2MB flash. I've the 2MB variant.
    And I run V2.4 BL50 and wondered if there is a newer one (with SSH)...

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  7. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 26, 1:31 pm, p...@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
    wrote:
    > In article <1174917699.588919.224...@l75g2000hse.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    > >No the DECserver is not able to support an SSH client (I wish it could)

    >
    > Then why do you call it "alive"? I can't think of any professional device
    > which still has no encrypted communication (like SSH, AES, SSL, ...) builtin.
    >
    > >The software is available for Digital Networks but it looks like you
    > >need the MNENG3 image and that is no longer supported.

    >
    > Sigh. The DECserver 90M is definitely a hobbyist goodie. And now it
    > isn't supported even there (and yes, it uses the MNENG2 and MNENG3 image)
    > What is then the current supported DECserver which is "alive"?
    >
    > And then one wonders, why LANTRONIX is now the leader (at least in my eyes)...
    >
    > >Does your unit have flash internally? or you don't know because you
    > >can not boot it?

    >
    > The DECserver90M is equipped with 0/1/2MB flash. I've the 2MB variant.
    > And I run V2.4 BL50 and wondered if there is a newer one (with SSH)...
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail p...@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist



    A couple of years ago we tried to get the "latest" version of DNAS
    that would run on a couple of DECserver 90M and 700 (non-flash)
    units. At some point DNPG started requiring a newer boot ROM version
    on the hardware to run the then current DNAS versions, so older units
    were dropped from support by those updated versions. No ROM updates
    were available back then.

    But the kicker came in when we tried to buy the last versions that did
    support our older hardware and DNPG would not provide it even as a
    paid upgrade. They said we could only purchase the current software
    version, which only supported new hardware (DECserver 90M+, DECserver
    732, etc).

    As a result the customer is still puttering along on their old
    hardware with DNAS V2.2 and V2.3a, and buying LANtronix units as the
    DEC hardware slowly dies off.


  8. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 26, 2:31 pm, p...@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
    wrote:
    > In article <1174917699.588919.224...@l75g2000hse.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    > >No theDECserveris not able to support an SSH client (I wish it could)

    >
    > Then why do you call it "alive"? I can't think of any professional device
    > which still has no encrypted communication (like SSH, AES, SSL, ...) builtin.
    >
    > >The software is available for Digital Networks but it looks like you
    > >need the MNENG3 image and that is no longer supported.

    >
    > Sigh. TheDECserver90M is definitely a hobbyist goodie. And now it
    > isn't supported even there (and yes, it uses the MNENG2 and MNENG3 image)
    > What is then the current supportedDECserverwhich is "alive"?
    >
    > And then one wonders, why LANTRONIX is now the leader (at least in my eyes)...
    >
    > >Does your unit have flash internally? or you don't know because you
    > >can not boot it?

    >
    > The DECserver90M is equipped with 0/1/2MB flash. I've the 2MB variant.
    > And I run V2.4 BL50 and wondered if there is a newer one (with SSH)...
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail p...@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist


    Peter, the current hardware supported by the DNAS V3.5 release is the
    DS700 (4 meg ram), ds716/732, and the DS708 for the wweng2 image. For
    the mneng4 image it is the DS90M+, and Conx4. I do hope that you will
    continue to use the DECserver in those applications that the server
    provides supperior performance.


  9. Re: DECservers alive and well

    In article <1174996658.394978.150720@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    >Peter, the current hardware supported by the DNAS V3.5 release is the
    >DS700 (4 meg ram), ds716/732, and the DS708 for the wweng2 image.


    My DS700-08 (How much RAM? Where to check?) has still V2.2 (BL29-52).
    With V3.5 it would be newer than my DS90M?

    > For
    >the mneng4 image it is the DS90M+, and Conx4. I do hope that you will
    >continue to use the DECserver in those applications that the server
    >provides supperior performance.


    What is the difference between the DS90M and the DS90M+? Only the RAM?
    Could I upgrade my 90M to a 90M+ by adding memory myself? What memory?
    Where to get/download the WWENG2 and the MNENG4 V3.5?

    Many TIA

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  10. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 27, 2:27 pm, p...@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
    wrote:
    > In article <1174996658.394978.150...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    > >Peter, the current hardware supported by the DNAS V3.5 release is the
    > >DS700 (4 meg ram), ds716/732, and the DS708 for the wweng2 image.

    >
    > My DS700-08 (How much RAM? Where to check?) has still V2.2 (BL29-52).
    > With V3.5 it would be newer than my DS90M?
    >
    > > For
    > >the mneng4 image it is the DS90M+, and Conx4. I do hope that you will
    > >continue to use theDECserverin those applications that the server
    > >provides supperior performance.

    >
    > What is the difference between the DS90M and the DS90M+? Only the RAM?
    > Could I upgrade my 90M to a 90M+ by adding memory myself? What memory?
    > Where to get/download the WWENG2 and the MNENG4 V3.5?
    >
    > Many TIA
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail p...@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist


    Peter, the 90M+ supports port speeds to 230Kbaud, and has a firmware
    upgradable bootrom where changes to the startup operation of the rom
    can be corrected without a hardware ECO to the product. The product
    still supports shandalone or backplane connectivity.

    Thanks, Jon
    Digital Networks
    www.digitalnetworks.net


  11. Re: DECservers alive and well

    On Mar 27, 1:27 pm, p...@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
    wrote:
    > In article <1174996658.394978.150...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups. com>, "jons" writes:
    > >Peter, the current hardware supported by the DNAS V3.5 release is the
    > >DS700 (4 meg ram), ds716/732, and the DS708 for the wweng2 image.

    >
    > My DS700-08 (How much RAM? Where to check?) has still V2.2 (BL29-52).
    > With V3.5 it would be newer than my DS90M?
    >
    > > For
    > >the mneng4 image it is the DS90M+, and Conx4. I do hope that you will
    > >continue to use the DECserver in those applications that the server
    > >provides supperior performance.

    >
    > What is the difference between the DS90M and the DS90M+? Only the RAM?
    > Could I upgrade my 90M to a 90M+ by adding memory myself? What memory?
    > Where to get/download the WWENG2 and the MNENG4 V3.5?
    >
    > Many TIA
    >
    > --
    > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    > Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    > E-mail p...@langstoeger.at
    > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist


    Have you looked at ConsoleWorks to manage all those DECservers console
    ports with LAT, telnet or SSH? www.tditx.com


  12. Re: DECservers alive and well

    In article <1175656205.764453.138910@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>, "bill Johnson" writes:
    >Have you looked at ConsoleWorks to manage all those DECservers console
    >ports with LAT, telnet or SSH? www.tditx.com


    Have you looked at my organization?
    I'm a hobbyist with 2 locations and have 2 DECservers (90M and 700).
    I only wanted to reach the DECservers via internet without passwords
    in cleartext. Currently I use TELNET to the remote console (but with
    restricted access via firewall rules). So ConsoleWorks doesn't solve it.

    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

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