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  1. Turning 433a into 433au?

    Hello,

    I think this is a question everyone of you heard before but I hope that
    anyone is so kind to direct me to a howto.
    I got a PWS433a and I want to install OpenVMS, how can I turn my
    433a into something with a SRM console?

    Thanks,
    Mike

  2. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    Michael Perkonigg wrote:
    > I think this is a question everyone of you heard before but I hope that
    > anyone is so kind to direct me to a howto.
    > I got a PWS433a and I want to install OpenVMS, how can I turn my
    > 433a into something with a SRM console?


    The main thing is you need a supported SCSI adapter. Also, you'll need to
    figure out how to switch from the ARC console to SRM (I'm afraid I can't
    remember). I think those are the two big things.

    Zane


  3. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    In article <44e32018$0$15763$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.tel ekom.at>, Michael Perkonigg writes:
    >I think this is a question everyone of you heard before but I hope that
    >anyone is so kind to direct me to a howto.


    Has been discussed here (and in COMP.OS.VMS) at various times (try Google)

    >I got a PWS433a and I want to install OpenVMS, how can I turn my
    >433a into something with a SRM console?


    If you have a real PWS433a you need to turn it into a PWS433au for VMS too.

    This means IIRC 3 items, a) a SCSI Controller supported by VMS (aka OpenVMS -
    and Digital UNIX aka Compaq Tru64 - a IDE Controller will only work with NT)
    b) a Graphics Controller supported by VMS (which is harder to find than
    supported by dUNIX - I recommend 3D30, as a 4DxyT will not work with VMS,
    but with dUNIX) and c) a cache module. There are upgrade kits for this,
    or you upgrade it on your own (AFAIK, the cache module is not a real must)
    or maybe the previous owner did it already or you already have a PWS433au
    (the firmware AlphaBIOS/SRM does show a 433au as a 433a)...

    To switch from AlphaBIOS to SRM:

    1) From the top level menu, select the Supplementary sub menu.
    2) From the Supplementary menu select the Setup menu / Set up the system
    3) From the Setup menu select to switch to an OpenVMS or Digital Unix console
    4) Select the appropriate console, OpenVMS
    5) Then select to return to the setup menu
    6) You should now be prompted to power cycle the system to implement the change of console , do so.

    Btw: The VMS FAQ can be found at http://www.openvms.digital.com/faq/

    HIH

    -EPLAN

    PS: If you're from vienna (or around), drop me a line
    --
    Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
    Network and OpenVMS system specialist
    E-mail peter@langstoeger.at
    A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist

  4. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    Michael Perkonigg wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I think this is a question everyone of you heard before but I hope that
    > anyone is so kind to direct me to a howto.
    > I got a PWS433a and I want to install OpenVMS, how can I turn my
    > 433a into something with a SRM console?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Mike


    Mike:

    Things you will/might need to change:
    SCSI card: Suggest DEC QLogic KZPBA-CA
    SCSI CDRom: Suggest DEC Toshiba XM6201B or DEC RRD43 or higher ***
    Video Card: DEC 4D10T, 3D30, 4D20, Elsa Gloria Synergy 8mb, Diamond Fire
    Pro 100, Permedia 2 8mb or compatible, PCI only.
    Hard Disk: Seagate or DEC branded Quantum 4gb to 36gb SCSI2 fast
    NIC: DEC DE450 or DE500
    RAM: PC66-100 ECC CL2 256mb (max per stick)in matched pairs.
    4mb L3 Cache module: not absolutely necessary, but nice to have.

    Latest firmware, V7.2, download it here:
    http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha...digitalpw.html

    *** if your system has USB ports below the mouse/keyboard PS2 ports then
    it is a MiataGL and as such has the Cypress IDE chipset. Which means
    that it will boot to an IDE CDRom and you won't need to change to a SCSI
    one.
    If your system does not have the USB ports, then it is a Miata MX5 and
    you WILL need a SCSI CDRom.

    Having said all of this, Dave at Island Computer Company is your FRIEND.
    http://www.islandco.com/
    Tell him I said Hi!

    TomC "Crabs"


  5. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    On 2006-08-17, Crabs wrote:
    > Having said all of this, Dave at Island Computer Company is your FRIEND.
    > http://www.islandco.com/
    > Tell him I said Hi!


    Uh, 375$ for the a to au conversion kit isn't possible at the moment.
    I will have to find a much cheaper solution, it's for hobbyists
    purpose only.
    I have an RRD42, I got some DEC harddisks, I can use it headless for now,
    the main problem is the SCSI controller.
    I hope I can get one pretty cheap somewhere, we will see.

    Thanks,
    Mike

  6. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    Michael Perkonigg wrote:
    > On 2006-08-17, Crabs wrote:
    >
    >>Having said all of this, Dave at Island Computer Company is your FRIEND.
    >>http://www.islandco.com/
    >>Tell him I said Hi!

    >
    >
    > Uh, 375$ for the a to au conversion kit isn't possible at the moment.
    > I will have to find a much cheaper solution, it's for hobbyists
    > purpose only.
    > I have an RRD42, I got some DEC harddisks, I can use it headless for now,
    > the main problem is the SCSI controller.
    > I hope I can get one pretty cheap somewhere, we will see.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Mike


    Mike:

    Most if not all of this stuff shows up on eBay fairly regularily. The
    most difficult/expensive item will be the graphics card.

    TomC

  7. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    >> RAM: PC66-100 ECC CL2 256mb (max per stick)in matched pairs.
    >
    > FYI, I found that my PWS did not like PC133 DIMMs.


    Well my PWS600au had some PC133 from Kingston. They worked.
    But I can't tell you the Kingston part number because now I have a XP900.

    cheers
    Reinhard



  8. Re: Turning 433a into 433au?

    Reinhard Eigner wrote:
    > >> RAM: PC66-100 ECC CL2 256mb (max per stick)in matched pairs.

    > >
    > > FYI, I found that my PWS did not like PC133 DIMMs.


    > Well my PWS600au had some PC133 from Kingston. They worked.
    > But I can't tell you the Kingston part number because now I have a XP900.


    My PWS 433au became decidedly unstable while I had PC133 in it.

    Zane



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