Marc Schlensog wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I was wondering, if there was any physical or firmware-wise difference
> between DP264 main- and CPU-boards and the ones used in the DS20(e).
> E.g. would it be possible to salvage a DS20(e) with broken power
> supplies and throw the mainboard into an eATX case with a standard ATX
> power supply (with enough oomph to keep the Alpha happy)?
>
> TIA,
>
> Marc

This doesn't really answer your question, but I've got a couple of
Microway "Number Smasher 264DP" systems I picked up on Ebay last year.
(http://www.microway.com/alpha/mwns264dp.html) They are based on the
AlphaPC 264DP mainboard/daughterboard set with dual 667MHz Alpha EV67
CPU's. I'm running VMS 8.2 on them and while a "$ Show CPU /Full"
identifies them as AlphaPC 264DP systems the Alpha Firmware CD uses the
same firmware as the DS20E to upgrade (I'm currently running firmware
V7.1 on them).

I would think that the tricky part about relocating your DS20E
mainboard in some sort of ATX chassis would be the front panel
interface. I'm not sure what the DS20E mainboard would expect as
connections. The AlphaPC mainboard can apparently take a pretty
"dumbed-down" front panel. My Microways have just the basic power and
reset switch and some fan failure indicator lights - No OCP panel or
anything fancy.

Specs are still available on the Microway site at
http://www.microway.com/downloads/DP/

John H. Reinhardt

On 15 Jun 2006 19:52:52 -0700
"johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" wrote:

>[...]
> This doesn't really answer your question, but I've got a couple of
> Microway "Number Smasher 264DP" systems I picked up on Ebay last year.
> (http://www.microway.com/alpha/mwns264dp.html) They are based on the
> AlphaPC 264DP mainboard/daughterboard set with dual 667MHz Alpha EV67
> CPU's. I'm running VMS 8.2 on them and while a "$ Show CPU /Full"
> identifies them as AlphaPC 264DP systems the Alpha Firmware CD uses
> the same firmware as the DS20E to upgrade (I'm currently running
> firmware V7.1 on them).
>
> I would think that the tricky part about relocating your DS20E
> mainboard in some sort of ATX chassis would be the front panel
> interface. I'm not sure what the DS20E mainboard would expect as
> connections. The AlphaPC mainboard can apparently take a pretty
> "dumbed-down" front panel. My Microways have just the basic power and
> reset switch and some fan failure indicator lights - No OCP panel or
> anything fancy.
>
> Specs are still available on the Microway site at
> http://www.microway.com/downloads/DP/
>
> John H. Reinhardt

Hi John,

actually you helped me quite a bit. The way it looks to me right now
is, that the 264DP and the DS20 series are indeed quite identical (the
DS20E doesn't have a fancy operating panel as well), so chances might
be good, that relocating the board might really work. So my only
concern right now is the power supply, as the DS20E-firmware shuts the
system off, when only one PS is present.
I might have the defective PS checked today or next week, but since
it's uncertain, if it can be fixed and since I don't a huge paper
weight, going non-proprietary is still a pending option. So if anyone
can tell me more about the power supply, I'd be really happy.

Marc

Marc

I have two DS20e working p/supplies but the handles are broken off

If you want one, you pay shipping !

David

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Island Computers US Corp
2700 Gregory St, Suite 180
Savannah GA 31404
Tel: 912 447 6622 X201
Cell: 912 447 6622 X251
Fax: 912 201 0402
Email: dbturner@icusc.com
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=====================================
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"Marc Schlensog" wrote in message
news:20060616090333.88b52201.fishtank@web.de...
> On 15 Jun 2006 19:52:52 -0700
> "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" wrote:
>
> >[...]
> > This doesn't really answer your question, but I've got a couple of
> > Microway "Number Smasher 264DP" systems I picked up on Ebay last year.
> > (http://www.microway.com/alpha/mwns264dp.html) They are based on the
> > AlphaPC 264DP mainboard/daughterboard set with dual 667MHz Alpha EV67
> > CPU's. I'm running VMS 8.2 on them and while a "$ Show CPU /Full"
> > identifies them as AlphaPC 264DP systems the Alpha Firmware CD uses
> > the same firmware as the DS20E to upgrade (I'm currently running
> > firmware V7.1 on them).
> >
> > I would think that the tricky part about relocating your DS20E
> > mainboard in some sort of ATX chassis would be the front panel
> > interface. I'm not sure what the DS20E mainboard would expect as
> > connections. The AlphaPC mainboard can apparently take a pretty
> > "dumbed-down" front panel. My Microways have just the basic power and
> > reset switch and some fan failure indicator lights - No OCP panel or
> > anything fancy.
> >
> > Specs are still available on the Microway site at
> > http://www.microway.com/downloads/DP/
> >
> > John H. Reinhardt
>
> Hi John,
>
> actually you helped me quite a bit. The way it looks to me right now
> is, that the 264DP and the DS20 series are indeed quite identical (the
> DS20E doesn't have a fancy operating panel as well), so chances might
> be good, that relocating the board might really work. So my only
> concern right now is the power supply, as the DS20E-firmware shuts the
> system off, when only one PS is present.
> I might have the defective PS checked today or next week, but since
> it's uncertain, if it can be fixed and since I don't a huge paper
> weight, going non-proprietary is still a pending option. So if anyone
> can tell me more about the power supply, I'd be really happy.
>
> Marc

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:12:45 -0400
"David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" wrote:

> Marc
>
> I have two DS20e working p/supplies but the handles are broken off
>
> If you want one, you pay shipping !
>
> David

Just the shipping? How much would it be for both of them? Apart from
the handles, they are functioning?

b.r.,

Marc

To Germany, that is. Time is no issue.

Marc

I don't know how much shipping would be
They both work - just no handles

My guess by Fedex would be about $80-100

By US Mail - can't do it as we don't have an "account" with them

If you know anyone in the USA we can ship to them and you can take care of
shipping yourself

DT


--

David B Turner
Island Computers US Corp
2700 Gregory St, Suite 180
Savannah GA 31404
Tel: 912 447 6622 X201
Cell: 912 447 6622 X251
Fax: 912 201 0402
Email: dbturner@icusc.com
Web: http://www.islandco.com
=====================================
All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions
of sale. These should be read before ordering.
http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html

"Marc Schlensog" wrote in message
news:20060617021758.dbee1f3e.fishtank@web.de...
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:12:45 -0400
> "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" wrote:
>
> > Marc
> >
> > I have two DS20e working p/supplies but the handles are broken off
> >
> > If you want one, you pay shipping !
> >
> > David
>
> Just the shipping? How much would it be for both of them? Apart from
> the handles, they are functioning?
>
> b.r.,
>
> Marc

David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote:
> I don't know how much shipping would be
> They both work - just no handles
>
> My guess by Fedex would be about $80-100
>
> By US Mail - can't do it as we don't have an "account" with them
>
> If you know anyone in the USA we can ship to them and you can take care of
> shipping yourself
>
> DT

Hi Dave,

is UPS an option? Feel free to drop me a mail.

Best regards,

Marc

We don't ship via UPS any more
1/10 packages were damaged when received
Fedex is considerably better, i in 30 packages destroyed - except for a
GS160 shipped from the UK that came in with a 15 Degree slant to it.
Needless to say our write off that year was considerable.

US mail book rate (i could put a book with it) would be the cheapest
I will see what that is and get back to you


--

David B Turner
Island Computers US Corp
2700 Gregory St, Suite 180
Savannah GA 31404
Tel: 912 447 6622 X201
Cell: 912 447 6622 X251
Fax: 912 201 0402
Email: dbturner@icusc.com
Web: http://www.islandco.com
=====================================
All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions
of sale. These should be read before ordering.
http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html

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> David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote:
> > I don't know how much shipping would be
> > They both work - just no handles
> >
> > My guess by Fedex would be about $80-100
> >
> > By US Mail - can't do it as we don't have an "account" with them
> >
> > If you know anyone in the USA we can ship to them and you can take care
of
> > shipping yourself
> >
> > DT
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> is UPS an option? Feel free to drop me a mail.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marc
>

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:16:53 -0400
"David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" wrote:

> We don't ship via UPS any more
> 1/10 packages were damaged when received
> Fedex is considerably better, i in 30 packages destroyed - except for
> a GS160 shipped from the UK that came in with a 15 Degree slant to it.
> Needless to say our write off that year was considerable.
>
> US mail book rate (i could put a book with it) would be the cheapest
> I will see what that is and get back to you

Sounds great! Looking forward to reading from you ;-)

b.r.,

Marc